Shit test I feel is the only thing I haven't[*]
got my head around. Its a big part of "the game" its shows up in almost every literature on seduction. Maybe I'm just lucky but I've dropped the idea that girls can shit test me. And my game skyrocketed. But I feel that I'm missing a fundamental skill and it is affecting my inner game. Guys please help clarify.

Uh, it depends. I think the concept of shit test is a good one, but many shit tests are really IODs. Still, it is better to think of an IOD as a shit test than just give up which is why I kind of like the concept.

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I think, to an extent, shit tests are one of these things which people take too literally and which have become almost over-defined. They should really be a concept rather than a specific thing.

A shit test is, generally speaking, a test which girls use to essentially filter out weak low quality and therefore unattractive men from strong high quality and attractive men. But the idea that "I'm thirsty" is always a shit test, and that buying a thirsty girl a drink is going to instantly cancel any chance you have of sleeping with a woman is quite frankly a little bit ridiculous and suggests an overwhelming overestimation of what is going on during an interaction.

I think really you just need to be aware of what a shit test is and what it's purpose is and use the concept to get your frame right.

A shit test basically sees a woman trying to find out if you're needy or not - do you do everything she asks even if you don't want to, or do you do what you want and she fits in alongside that? So really, from that, all you need to be worried about is getting your frame right. If you don't just pander to her every need, then you don't need to be on the look out for specific shit tests and stuff like that. If a girl says she's thirsty and you were about to buy a drink anyway, then buy her a drink too. So what? But if you've just bought yourself a drink and have no intention of going back to the bar just yet, don't go out of your way to buy a girl a drink just to impress her.

I think the idea of shit tests makes out that it is something which always happens on a conscious level - the girl is consciously testing you. It often isn't. Often, if you've got your frame right and she's having a great time, and then she just genuinely says she's thirsty, it's not a conscious shit test. However, if you go out of your way to buy her a drink even when you don't want to, just to impress her, then even here where it is not a conscious shit test, you end up making her think that you are perhaps low value.

As such, I think shit tests are worth being aware of, but far more important is the general mindset of being 'high value' and not being needy. If you've got that, then you'll pass most shit tests without even realising that it is a shit test!

it’s good to know it in theory but on practice, it’s not as specific.
the term ‘shit test’ is itself a lay term. i guess it sorta means she is testing you if you are shit. that’s what it seem like.

on practice everything is a shit test. almost everything women do is a shit test. you ask for number and she say that she doesn’t have a phone. it’s like boxing, she is you opponent and in this game she is testing your balls. she wouldn’t play with you if she didn’t consider you a worthy opponent.

something like this.

Shit tests not only exist, but are one of women's favourite pastimes. Women don't only test your frame if they're attracted to you, but if you're in consideration for being any kind of part of their life, even a friend.

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shit test is something mystery coined to help guys recognize when people are searching for congruence, basically men and women both do things that they don't realize socially that allow them to judge you if you are not congruent with their ideal, taking the test from their subjective point of view can either lower or raise their opinion of you, when people say traits of value or traits of low value to them they search within others to find congruence in these traits so they can paint a picture for themselves of who that person is, after a while an impression is made and the frame work is set for their opinion of who you are

so for example if someone says, what do you do for work? and you say, ohh I am a doctor

this could for some people change their perception of you gaining you more respect or less respect in their eyes, vs if you were to say you work at mcdonalds or own your own company

there are lots of ways a person can test your congruence beyond qualification too, someone could call you a faggot or a loser or something else, if you get angry and start trying to be aggressive or defensive or say nothing, depending on how you react you it can lower or raise their perception of your place on the social ladder and everyone will have a different subjective opinion of you based on how they perceive you

people can also try to lead you into doing things giving you tests of compliance to see how you would behave or simply to take value from you, if someone tells you to do something for them and you do it with no challenge this can either lower or raise there perception of you but due to the ben franklin effect it will likely raise your perception/compliance for them

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ben_Franklin_effect

there are plenty of ways to deal with tests but the general consensus is to find your own identity that you are congruent with and just maintain congruence, in other words be yourself and don't react to tests, some of the more manipulative outer game concepts opt for taking the approach of just not taking tests so people can't judge you and thus you remain more appealing to a wider base of people

so if someone asks you a qualifier, you just don't qualify yourself or you answer them with a qualifier, if someone says something that seeks a reaction, don't react, just ignore it or agree with them and exaggerate it or address what they said without having an emotional shift

it's about secure in yourself and being emotionally cool and calm and certain always and just not getting bothered by things or feeling like you have to do or say something someone wants you to do or say, if you take congruence tests that's fine, but what you do and say puts a frame on who you are, and who you is how people will perceive you

if no one can figure out who you are without a challenge, it becomes more difficult to attach an identity to you thus they are not sure what is congruent for you, you can keep people in this limbo if you understand what you are doing and remain a mystery, or you can just trust in yourself and give away all the value you have to share and just remain congruent, it really depends on the school of thought

If you want to be scientific about it, I think there are three types of shit tests:

1. Push-Pull game plays in the courtship process;

2. Compliance tests to get something out of the interaction; and

3. Combination of both push-pull and compliance tests.

Push-Pull Shit Tests. As several in here observed, when girls are attracted to you, they will throw shit tests to gauge how interested you really are in them. For instance, I was sarging this pharmacist last night and when I was asking for her phone number she said she doesn't have a phone. The funny thing is, she kept on eye fucking me back when I eye fucked her, kept on laughing with whatever I said even when these were not funny at all, and did not pull her hand back when I held it for some 10 seconds or so.

Simply put, the girl gave compliance in the nonverbal compliance tests I gave her but she wouldn't comply with my verbal compliance test (giving me her phone number).

Compliance Tests and Push-Pull Tests. If a girl is giving you compliance tests instead of you giving it to her, then she is taking the lead in the interaction. This is a subtle girlie calibration tool on who is more dominant: her or you. Of course, it is a established fact that feminine women are attracted to dominant (not domineering) men.

The ideal interaction is that for every compliance you give to the girl, she should be complying to your verbal and non-verbal calls to action 3 times. The ratio should be 1:3. Give one compliance for every 3 compliance a girl gives you.

For instance, Thursday last week, this girl kept on qualifying herself to me that she cooks good sour pork stew. So I complied with her request to cook for me. She wanted a second compliance though. She said, I should shop for the ingredients. I said, no way. So she shopped for the ingredients.

When she came to my apartment, I asked her to clean the toilet/shower room first before cooking. She did. So we were now 1:1. After cooking and having dinner with me, I said she should take a shower, she refused. This compliance test ping pong game went on and on until I was banging her pussy.

Can you now see how compliance tests are also tied to the courtship process down to LMR and towards the f-close? Compliance tests can also be a form of foreplay.

Pure Compliance Tests. Some girls are overly manipulative and just want to get free things from guys who are attracted to them but wouldn't give anything back. These are the buy me this, buy me that kind of girls and you're better off running away from these types when they give you compliance tests starting with small, cheap items and moving forward to bigger, more expensive items.

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