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PostPosted: Wed Aug 07, 2013 6:14 am 
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Okay so from a lot of the lay/ field reports I have read it seems fair that most PUAs are gaming strangers they meet on the street which in my mind is a lot easier than gaming someone a person already knows/ met (In my case before I knew game) My question is would it be wise to game someone you already have a relationship with? (As in you are kinda friends - good friends) If so how would you go about doing this because they already know you and have an understanding as to the kind of person you are.
Maybe im just that new to this that it seems difficult to me but I'd love some advice, especially if someone has successfully managed to take a previous friend and turn them into more than that.
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One of the first things that popped into my head is to make sure you do lots of warm and (slightly) sexual kinesthetic touching at first. We call this "kino" for short in the PUA community. Just touch her. Give her a big hug, touch her hand, sweep/brush the hair out of her eyes, hold her hand, give her a massage to relax her, etc... Kino escalation is key to sexual escalation in my opinion. Combine this with lots of sexual humor i.e. confident cocky/funny flirting (I'm old school) and the occasional neg if she is a bit too bratty. The key is to make her pussy wet... through words, touching, kissing and eventually sticking your cock in her holes. To me, it is all foreplay....

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PostPosted: Wed Aug 07, 2013 1:33 pm 
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Thats actually a really good topic i couldnt find many answers about!
Nearly all advices and techniques are meant for strangers or random girls. Thats really wired because most guys actually try to get a girl they have known for quite some time. Im in the exact same situation.
And i personally believe that there is just a very thin line between friendship and becoming a couple. I mean whats better than knowing the other person for years?
I think the best way to get out of the friendzone is what Chicoman already mentioned. Start touching her a bit more than usual, see if she is comfortable with that. Start flirting a bit.
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but I'd love some advice, especially if someone has successfully managed to take a previous friend and turn them into more than that.
Like i said i was in the exact same situation. Honestly i can not say that i successfully made her my girlfriend yet but i tried A LOT of different things to turn things around. I told her that i love her, i was being extremely friendly i was being an asshole i did what some PUA told me. What worked best for me personally was to walk away from the friendzone. I told her what i feel for her. She said she only wants to be friends. Well okay then... I stopped texting her i stopped being lovely and friendly to her i stopped touching her when i see her. What happened was she started to miss me...She started texting me again, started to flirt, sends me heart and kissing smilies every day... Im on vacation at the moment but when i come back home i will visit her and just kiss her.
So the key is to walk around from the friendzone or to turn the tables around.


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PostPosted: Wed Aug 07, 2013 5:18 pm 
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Thats actually a really good topic i couldnt find many answers about!
Nearly all advices and techniques are meant for strangers or random girls. Thats really wired because most guys actually try to get a girl they have known for quite some time. Im in the exact same situation.
And i personally believe that there is just a very thin line between friendship and becoming a couple. I mean whats better than knowing the other person for years?
I think the best way to get out of the friendzone is what Chicoman already mentioned. Start touching her a bit more than usual, see if she is comfortable with that. Start flirting a bit.

Like i said i was in the exact same situation. Honestly i can not say that i successfully made her my girlfriend yet but i tried A LOT of different things to turn things around. I told her that i love her, i was being extremely friendly i was being an asshole i did what some PUA told me. What worked best for me personally was to walk away from the friendzone. I told her what i feel for her. She said she only wants to be friends. Well okay then... I stopped texting her i stopped being lovely and friendly to her i stopped touching her when i see her. What happened was she started to miss me...She started texting me again, started to flirt, sends me heart and kissing smilies every day... Im on vacation at the moment but when i come back home i will visit her and just kiss her.
So the key is to walk around from the friendzone or to turn the tables around.
Thanks for the help. Let me know what happens and what works with your girl.


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PostPosted: Wed Aug 07, 2013 8:32 pm 
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Thats actually a really good topic i couldnt find many answers about!
Nearly all advices and techniques are meant for strangers or random girls. Thats really wired because most guys actually try to get a girl they have known for quite some time. Im in the exact same situation.
And i personally believe that there is just a very thin line between friendship and becoming a couple. I mean whats better than knowing the other person for years?
I think the best way to get out of the friendzone is what Chicoman already mentioned. Start touching her a bit more than usual, see if she is comfortable with that. Start flirting a bit.
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but I'd love some advice, especially if someone has successfully managed to take a previous friend and turn them into more than that.
Like i said i was in the exact same situation. Honestly i can not say that i successfully made her my girlfriend yet but i tried A LOT of different things to turn things around. I told her that i love her, i was being extremely friendly i was being an asshole i did what some PUA told me. What worked best for me personally was to walk away from the friendzone. I told her what i feel for her. She said she only wants to be friends. Well okay then... I stopped texting her i stopped being lovely and friendly to her i stopped touching her when i see her. What happened was she started to miss me...She started texting me again, started to flirt, sends me heart and kissing smilies every day... Im on vacation at the moment but when i come back home i will visit her and just kiss her.
So the key is to walk around from the friendzone or to turn the tables around.
I think that's only going to work some times. It probably wont work if the girl has enough friend s and suitors to satisfy her.


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PostPosted: Thu Aug 08, 2013 5:17 am 
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I think that's only going to work some times. It probably wont work if the girl has enough friend s and suitors to satisfy her.
What do you think would work? Or like if you have experience in this situation, what did/ did not work?


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PostPosted: Thu Aug 08, 2013 5:37 am 
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Well thats true. In my case i know for a fact that my girl is not seeing any other guys. Thats why i still have a chance... So im basically the "only" guy she is really into at the moment.


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Well thats true. In my case i know for a fact that my girl is not seeing any other guys. Thats why i still have a chance... So im basically the "only" guy she is really into at the moment.
I don't know if you read some of the other responses but are you doing things like escalating kino or.......? Trying to find out what works and what doesn't mainly because I think this would be a useful thing to figure out.


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PostPosted: Thu Aug 08, 2013 6:42 am 
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I don't know if you read some of the other responses but are you doing things like escalating kino or.......? Trying to find out what works and what doesn't mainly because I think this would be a useful thing to figure out.
Yes sure. We both kino all the time when we see each other. Not in a VERY sexual way (obviously because we officially are "just friends" for her) but yeah sure. Touching her arms, knees, thigh, back, face or even breast is okay for her!
Definitely more than a "normal" friend would do. And she touches back...
You will have to find out what works for you. I really recommend you to start with some soft kino. I dont think its a good idea to rush and start touching breast next time you see her. But check out this awesome guide (helped me A LOT!) and make her more comfortable with you touching her.

majik-s-guide-to-kino-escalation-vt163160.html#p778662

I did this over the past few month and my girl is very comfortable with everything! Only mistake i did (HUGE mistake!) i did not kiss her! As mentioned in this awesome guide
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then go to touch her face. Once you touch her face... KISS HER. If a girl is comfortable with you touching her face, she will be comfortable enough to let you kiss her
I actually had situations where i gently touched her face and it was obvious that she was expecting a KISS. But i had no balls and got afraid and didnt do it... So i want you to DO IT with your girl!


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PostPosted: Fri Aug 09, 2013 3:59 am 
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credit goes to jag89109
"Want to hear the weirdest thing … I have a different impression now than when I first met you"
-Towards an acquaintance not a friend you have known forever.
He says this builds interest/ suspense.
Now you can say whatever you want.
"I thought you were __________ ("neutral" as jag said) now i think you are _______ (positive adjective.)
Go from there, hope this helps those above/ anyone else who needs it.

Also, credit goes to Blueberries:
Escalate kino/ be sexual and flirty but MAKE IT HER IDEA.
Don't go in for the kiss if shes in the state where she is thinking. Why the FUCK did he just do that?
Make her think she is the one initiating it.


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PostPosted: Fri Aug 09, 2013 4:54 am 
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Also, credit goes to Blueberries:
Escalate kino/ be sexual and flirty but MAKE IT HER IDEA.
Don't go in for the kiss if shes in the state where she is thinking. Why the FUCK did he just do that?
Make her think she is the one initiating it.
Sounds good but definitely never worked for me. I tried this several times. She always just set there and was waiting for me to kiss her. Like 5 or 6 times i believe. It was so obvious that she wanted a kiss so bad but she did not do anything. I actually talked to her about that a while ago and she said "For me, the guy has to make the first step. I will never initiate a first kiss" I was like "But what if you really like this person and you really want the kiss. You would never initiate a kiss yourself?" She "No never. I never did. This is the guys job"
I personally dont like this. I prefer if the girl initiates the first kiss...


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I will never initiate a first kiss" I was like "But what if you really like this person and you really want the kiss. You would never initiate a kiss yourself?" She "No never. I never did. This is the guys job"
I personally dont like this. I prefer if the girl initiates the first kiss...
I learned this believe it or not from a guy drunk out of his mind after a concert. I was sitting next to him and a chick was across from us. He rambled on about how its so stupid how guys have to initiate things like kissing, touching, etc.
But ya JTQatar, I think thats the whole thing about inner game and confidence, you just have to man up and do it. Hopefully when the time comes ill be able to do that, but I guess we will find out.


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