Hey

I've been a MPUA reader for a while now, i never participated, so this is my first post.

There is that chick that i have known for a looong time now, she was friendzoning me since the first week, and after trying for while i lost hope and i accepted that! so she was there as a FRIEND! but somehow couple of days back, we had a conversation and she popped up a question asking to go on a date!

So its a bit confusing! going out on a date with a person you almost know everything about! All ive read on this forum is talking about how to get a new chick in bed or openers for conversation .. its all about new girls that you wanna hit on.

So my question is how to go on a date with a chick after a long friendzone ?

she said if it doesnt workout we come back to be friends (i dont give a crap, i dont wanna go back!), just wanna go out, couple of drinks, enjoy sometime, take her back to my place! boom thats it.

Any tips or guidance that will help me out tonight!

Excuse my weak english

You go Alpha my friend

- Do a lunch/coffee date (Not dinner)
- Show her that she's nothing special
- Pay for your own S#!t
- depending on what you rate her, don't compliment her much
- have a powerful opinion, if you don't agree with something...let her know
- Make her laugh
- when the conversation is at its peak, end it and say you gotta get going
- YOU end the conversation
- No more then 30-45 minutes
- Maintain powerful eye contact
- Look good, smell good
- Get some social proof
- Show her you're a busy guy
- Don't be an Intellectual Whore


If you're interested in anything else specific, let me know.

Taking her out late night to bar/lounge (not dinner) so am still good.

Everything you said makes sense but for those 2
How its gonna make her come back to my place ? after ending everything and leaving !

There are two types of friendzone:

1. "Let's just be friends." Friendzone.

2. "Let's be friends because I want you to fuck me one of these days." Friendzone.

The first type is a girl's polite way of saying 'No' your dick can't have any access to my pussy. The second type is a girl's way of getting dick that she likes best without appearing to be a slut.

I think you're in #2. The key is to NOT make her feel slutty during the initial stages of the date while still showing her that you desire her but not as much as she desires you. This is all about calibration and escalation. Once you have been pushing her right buttons and she's so turned on and hot, she won't give a damn care about being perceived as slutty any more.

First things first though. You'll have to turn her on without making her feel like a slut.

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Dude thats kind of strange. If i got this right she is (more or less) asking for a serious relationship:
Anyways...SHE asked YOU for a date. So dont worry! If a relationship is what you want it looks like its going quite well.
I recommend you to start some nice kino.
Follow this guide here:

majik-s-guide-to-kino-escalation-vt163160.html#p778662

And since i am in the exact same situation right now i can tell you that knowing the girl for quite some time and being friends with her is good thing! If you are friends with her you WILL find so many things to talk about! If you know what she likes maybe take her to a place you know she likes or whatever.
I have been friends with my girl for one year now and every time we are "dating" we talk about every possible stuff for HOURS. 2-4 hours talking is NOTHING :d
Anyways... Start with some Kino. As explained in the guide KISS HER if you feel like it! SHE asked you for a date! She wont reject you!
Good luck my friend.

This is exactly correct.

Her saying "Lets see if you have the balls to seduce me!"

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I disagree, it sounds like OP was an option before (Guy # 2) because she found a guy that she liked more then OP. When that guy bailed on her, she started looking for OP as a backup. OP should be alpha and tell her what to do, don't be the "I appreciate the date" kinda thing.

Advice: next time she asks you out, pretend you're a little busy and say you'll get back to her. Don't show you're not a guy with priorities.

Well, a girl who wants to fuck your dick is still a girl who wants to fuck your dick whether you're the 2nd, 3rd or 4th option.

What's important is to take the opportunity when you're presented with one and not prolong the f-close by messing up a good thing through miscalibration.

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Hellhound : i doute im Guy #2, im max 5 ! comparing with her, she is an 8.. so i wont say im not confident or she is out of my league, but she wont keep a 5 as a friend to fu<k !! unless she is desperate i think !

JTQatar : akeed, she is asking for a serious relationship in a indirect way she is talking about it all the time. (which i dont want)

Jablowme : thats why i posted this thread ! how to have the balls to seduce her lol !

Take a look at page 6 of this scientific study: http://homepage.psy.utexas.edu/homepage ... on2009.pdf

By order of the top priority when women choose certain guys to fuck, I think the timing is just about right:

Top 1. Friends
Top 2. The person did not want more than just sex from me
Top 3. Physical attractiveness
Top 4. Good timing
Top 5. Accept for availability

Calibrate. If you don't accept for availability, she will fuck someone else's dick. As Heywood says, she's testing you if you have the balls to seduce her.

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So you have to ask yourself if a relationship is what you want. I dont know this girl and i dont know you either but i dont think you will be anything with her if your just fuck her and then leave her alone...So if you want a relationship with her there is not that much to do anymore lol. What you want to seduce now?
Go out with her. escalate kino...kiss her and there you go...
You already know what she wants. You just need to say yes or no.

Hellhound i think you are right

JTQatar i dont want a serious relationship, but she is kinda girl that plays around too

Anyway ill see how it goes tonight, but hopefully everything goes like i planned

Thanks guys

This is one of life's wonderful opportunity's, that many pass by.

You have a friend, he's a car dealer, sharp guy, he knows you love Ferrari's, he know how much you would love to blast one of those sleek bitches down the highway.

Out of the blue, Donkimera your friend calls you up and says; Dude I have an unbelievable Ferrari just came in, this guy had no idea of the value, I fucking STOLE it. I'm going to offer you this ONE chance, IF you come over today, I will sell you this thing for 1/2 of market value!

You can't believe your luck, YOUR dream car only a mile away, and it's going to fall in your lap!!

You go, you check it all out, you drive it, it's every thing you thought it would be. YOU WANT IT BAD!

He tells you the price, it is indeed 1/2 the market value.

Not wanting to give away your hand, or disrupt your friendship, you say; Look I love it, I really want it, But I was not sure so I didn't bring my cash to the table. I'll be back tomorrow.

Your friend is, by all means your friend, he says sure, thanks for lookin, hope to see you back.

You dream about it ALL night, you get up fresh and early, go to the bank, check your finances, withdraw the funds, and off you go to pick up your DREAM CAR!

You get there, and WHAT IN THE JUMPED UP FUCK! It's GONE!

Teary eyed, you approach your 'friend'; What happened????

Your friend tells you; well Donkimera, Hellhound came by 10 minutes after you, and HE HAD THE CASH, I couldn't wait on a maybe, I go for the sure thing.

Bring your cash, be the sure thing.

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That was a hell of a story, but in my situation i just wanna take a spin!

He nailed this question on the head.

You should have a game/flirtyPUA mode by now if you've done your research and field work.
Flip it on.

The main thing I did to get myself out of the friend zone is to play her even harder. (Don't necessarily treat her like shit). But give her the vibe that she's just another girl, you're real busy doing things. Be on as time restraint, it's okay to go over a little bit but leave her. Don't cancel plans to be with her, she's not that important yet.

Play the touch game as we'll. Say something comical, then touch her. Either on the arm or on the middle chest. Don't push or anything, just a slight touch then step away and act like it was something natural.

I took a girl from being just a friend to being a fuck buddy after one date. Yeah she might of been at the beginning of her whore stage. But I fucked her for a few months until I found better, then dropped her. Ever since then, she's tried to contact me etc just bec I was one of the few that left her.

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