Oh yes .... you are so right.
After 8 1/2 years of relationship my ex wife break up. But after I got an own apartment and start to change my life, she start to send messages and call me - "How do you do ?" - "Do you still love me ?" - and so on.
That is really crazy, because she's new boyfriend entered our old apartment after 3 weeks I leave it.

Funny that you mention that. A few weeks ago, I ran into one of my former girlfriend's friends at work. She looked me square in the eye and asked "So, how are you." I left her speechless when, without hesitation, I said "Amazing, things haven't been this good in years."

I'm sure that word gets back.

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Is there anything about a man's appearance that is an automatic deal breaker?

eg: piercings, hair style, clothes, out of shape..

Zip, you must answer this question.

I'm 16 and it seems as if people have not caught up with me. Perky highschool girly girls just don't do it for me. It had got to the point where I didn't go to school anymore. Needless to say, I'm doing school online now. I can't seem to bond deeply with the majority of people around me. I guess you could say I'm rather lonely. My question is, how would you respond to any 16 year old approaching you? I don't look any older or any younger. I've experienced some cases where I was dismissed during "grown up" conversations when I tried to share my knowledge. Those same people who mocked me ended up taking my advice at the end of the night, after an older friend of mine told them to "Take a seat, school's about to begin." I debated wether or not being younger is an advantage as I tend to surprise people, or a disadvantage as I tend to get shut down.

A. How would you respond to an approach by a person who's in their mid-teens?

B. Anything I can do to break that typical age barrier?

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Some women have "deal breakers." You can't help it, and you can't necessarily know that HB9 at the bar won't date a guy with dark hair. You can't focus on that.

It's more a general cleanliness and sense of personal style. Yes, I have a "type." However, if some guy rolls in with piercings and a mohawk... owns it... he has the ability to totally blow my preconceived notions out the window. Actually, that's what I'm hoping will happen every day (the breaking of my preconceived notions, not necessarily getting approached by a mohawk guy.)

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I'm in my early twenties. However, I personally wouldn't date a teenager. 18, MAYBE, but that's still pushing it.

I'm sure that you are wise beyond your years, but dude... there are chill girls your age. I swear, they are out there. I mean, help me out here... you're looking for either college aged girls or older?
Well, it's all about what you project. If you have a strong sense of who you are, project that fully through relaxed and fun body language... your audience will believe you (to an extent. If you look really young, I doubt you're going to be able to convince a cougar you're mature enough to handle her.)

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Cougars? Haha. I should have specified my target age group. I'm speaking generally of people between 18-22. I guess it somewhat depends on the person too. Some turn a blind eye and some over analyze. In general, I believe women or even men decide not to associate themselves with the younger crowd of my age for one of three reasons. Either they've adapted strong beliefs from society towards what's acceptable or not acceptable. (I'd say this is most people) They just don't share the same interests. The third reason may be they're too afraid of what people would think. I spoke with some of my sister's college friends and I asked them directly how they would feel about hanging out with someone my age (not necessarily me). Most of them said they'd feel quite embarassed. Now my question was about friendship, let alone something more serious than that. I have another question you have to answer.

1. Do you think younger women (my age) respond to the same behaviour as older women (your age)?

There are plenty of things they do respond to identically like being Alpha or negs, etc. My question is about Openers and such. Since the majority of men that read The Game or are aware of this growing community are mostly of legal drinking age, the material focuses on women of the same group.

2. Where do you draw the line between what does or dosen't have an effect on a younger crowd?


P.S. How can I grow a jungle of a beard? Haha.

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Interesting about the pity dates on Tuesdays. Right now, my mind-set
is to not go on any "dates" on the weekends... at least until I get to
know the woman and she proves she is worth my precious weekend
time (well, that should be a given). Anyway...

Let me ask it this way. What do either of those scenarios tell you
about his social status?

What if it were going to be the exact same date plans (at least
initially), just different time frames of the week?

A party huh? That sounds great!! Awsome idea but are you providing tickets to NYC too? Because some of us will need to fly 3000 miles


btw when did you change your avator? looks different

Before I even begin - you're doing a great thing here, Zip. Props up.

I was browsing through the forum in search for something vaguely interesting when I stumbled upon your microcosm attraction theory. It was sort of ground-breaking to me, because up until this point I thought a girl's attraction circuitry 'decides' whether she likes the guy during the first several minutes of interaction - I think it's something David DeAngelo says in his 'Attraction isnt a choice' book.

So the question I pose to you is this: what are the dynamics here? Can you be initially unattracted to a person and change your mind after, say, a week? If so, how/why? And does it work the other way, that is to say, once you are attracted to a guy, can it change provided he doesn't do something stupid?

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Damn, you're alot tougher than Kezia (www.puatraining.com). She's also a female coach. You knew that didn't you? Well at least your not a blonde! Or are you?

Okay, all righty then. Now I work at Walmart and I see these HB's going out with these AFC's. Mostly average looking but I've noticed something that's different: they hold Inner Game. Somehow they're confidence is rocking, while their looks aren't. Is confidence plus appeal what get's a girl to attract?

I was talking with a friend LISA-3. She told me if a guy has achne she won't touch him! I've heard so many women bitch about a guy's appeal that it's isn't even funny. Does it really matter to have zits on your face or do you have to appear like somebody that came out of Hollywood?

Here's another question. Say if a man has disadvantages in life. Well, I live in a god damn agency Trinity Services. I got my own apartment, no car, a decent job working at Walmart, Hepatitus C (Which is slowly going away through medication). To me, yeah I DHV in Trinity but out at my work, I still N-CLOSE but still who in the hell is gonna want me. Depressing I know but honestly!! Who's gonna see me as a person instead of a fucking loser. I'm sorry but still even though I'll soon get out of Trinity-still I won't have enough game or practice. They'll all blow me out when I call them and talk with them. I wanna be the best PUA but I'm fucking just a regular AFC (A nobody). I had game before only because I drove, I had somehow confidence, I DHV, but then I lost it when I got depression. Lack of believing in myself huh? Yeah, tell me what else is new! Like I didn't already know that!

You guys are like my family but I'm only limited to what I can do and it's pissing me off! How can be a somebody when I'm treated like shit? People don't treat me like shit but I'm scared because I know they'll see right through me. They'll see all my flaws and all my weaknesses. I don't want that. I could see everyone's flaws and weakness but I don't want them to see mine. I have nothing to offer a women besides being great in bed. Gee, had that enough experience why I don't call myself a Manwhore! Like my friend told me I beat myself up too much because she thinks that I thnk I don't deserve anything good in my life. Might be true unless it's not.

I don't give a fuck what you think-all that matters is what I think. Peace!

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On a base-brain level... it's scientifically proven most women (as long as they are fully past puberty) will react to attraction switches being flicked on. Now, though they will react internally, there are some social/environmental conditionals that will make them suppress fulfilling the attraction. This is most potent in high school girls. It's somewhat potent in college age girls. It's less potent in women past schooling but still somewhat relevant.
Canned material will work better (however, more transiently) on younger women. Older women have a better detection system for bullshit (they will be able to tell that a canned opener is not naturally coming from what you're all about... unless you actually, truly care "who lies more.")

Yes, the game focuses more on women of legal drinking age. However, day game is day game. Grocery game is my personal favorite. If you are confident, fun, relaxed, and vibing with a girl.... it doesn't matter how old she is.
Hm. I have a hard time answering this because I haven't field tested young men. I draw the line at 18. I haven't aided anyone in gaming a younger girl. However, theoretically... you have to calibrate to their environmental and social constraints. You have to flip the switches effectively so they end up not giving a shit about "who knows" you're fooling around. I can get more opinions on this, if needed.
Hang out with me for one minute. I'll put hair on any man's chest. I'm sure with proper focus, I can re-route my power to your face.

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Interesting. If I'm looking WAY to into it... I suppose if he's taking me out on a weekday, he's testing me out, seeing if I'm worthy of his social circle on a weekend. The weekends are precious, especially in a big city like NY. That's as far as I can look into that situation without really over-doing the analysis to a converse effect.

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I changed it yesterday. It is different. If you're looking for a cheap way to come to the party... you can hitchhike

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I got alittle carried away there! I'm trying my hardest to become the BEST PUA and I have to start believing in myself. Here's the funny thing though, when I talk to people in general I'm fine. It's just when I get closer to them is when I worry. Trust issues, yes. Psycho, no! LOL! Even though I act like it sometimes!

Let's stay connected. I'm gonna PM you and talk with you privately about this issue I'm facing right now! Thanks for your support! Peace!

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