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 Post subject: Scumbag friend
PostPosted: Thu Aug 01, 2013 12:35 am 
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Okay, here's the rundown...

...One of my closest friends and former wingmen has settled down in a LTR with a really awesome girl who has become a good friend of mine and I am super happy for them both.

However, there is this other guy, who I sort of became friends with through another of my close friends. I thought he was alright, but a little bit weird. Turns out that despite a (imo) poor dress sense and poor personal hygiene, this guy is a bit of a natural picking up girls. He's dated some girls that are waaaaay beyond him, and despite him having a kid, he still seems to do alright.

Anyway, he came to a friendly gathering we were all having and it's the first time he meets my wingman and his new gf. It's OBVIOUS that these two are together and yet this new guy is hitting on my friend's gf, he doesn't really react and she clearly isn't taken with him, so no real issue right? However, they become Facebook friends and this new guy is liking all her photos, he sent her his number in a message and even asked if she was free to hang out one time! This hangout was with friends, but her bf (my friend) wouldn't be there.

My mate obviously doesn't trust this guy, and I think he is getting jealous and I don't want it to harm his relationship. What should I do? I am having second thoughts about this new friend since he seems to be a bit of a scumbag and his behaviour is out of line. He seems to be attending a lot of our gatherings and it seems rude to tell him to fuck off.

It just really angers me that he is being a snake and trying to get on my close friends girlfriend, thought he was better than that. I told my friend to be unaffected and laugh it off, but it's easier said than done when a guy is creeping over your girl.


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 Post subject: Re: Scumbag friend
PostPosted: Thu Aug 01, 2013 1:26 am 
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Okay, here's the rundown...

...One of my closest friends and former wingmen has settled down in a LTR with a really awesome girl who has become a good friend of mine and I am super happy for them both.

However, there is this other guy, who I sort of became friends with through another of my close friends. I thought he was alright, but a little bit weird. Turns out that despite a (imo) poor dress sense and poor personal hygiene, this guy is a bit of a natural picking up girls. He's dated some girls that are waaaaay beyond him, and despite him having a kid, he still seems to do alright.

Anyway, he came to a friendly gathering we were all having and it's the first time he meets my wingman and his new gf. It's OBVIOUS that these two are together and yet this new guy is hitting on my friend's gf, he doesn't really react and she clearly isn't taken with him, so no real issue right? However, they become Facebook friends and this new guy is liking all her photos, he sent her his number in a message and even asked if she was free to hang out one time! This hangout was with friends, but her bf (my friend) wouldn't be there.

My mate obviously doesn't trust this guy, and I think he is getting jealous and I don't want it to harm his relationship. What should I do? I am having second thoughts about this new friend since he seems to be a bit of a scumbag and his behaviour is out of line. He seems to be attending a lot of our gatherings and it seems rude to tell him to fuck off.

It just really angers me that he is being a snake and trying to get on my close friends girlfriend, thought he was better than that. I told my friend to be unaffected and laugh it off, but it's easier said than done when a guy is creeping over your girl.

Hey mate I've been in a similar situation. The way I handled it was act unaffected like you said I am a very confident person so I wasn't worried that my gf was gonna leave me and she's a grown up she can handle herself but when he crossed the line and started creeping hard I stepped in. I'd definitely say scumbag is crossing the line. My advice would be make your mate aware which I am sure he is already maybe you have a word with scumbag tell him what he's doing is not cool you were nice enough to let him into your group of friends and you don't appreciate his asshole behavior and if he doesn't smarten up tell him to fck off. Hopefully that helps a bit good luck.


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 Post subject: Re: Scumbag friend
PostPosted: Thu Aug 01, 2013 4:18 am 
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Okay, here's the rundown...

...One of my closest friends and former wingmen has settled down in a LTR with a really awesome girl who has become a good friend of mine and I am super happy for them both.

However, there is this other guy, who I sort of became friends with through another of my close friends. I thought he was alright, but a little bit weird. Turns out that despite a (imo) poor dress sense and poor personal hygiene, this guy is a bit of a natural picking up girls. He's dated some girls that are waaaaay beyond him, and despite him having a kid, he still seems to do alright.

Anyway, he came to a friendly gathering we were all having and it's the first time he meets my wingman and his new gf. It's OBVIOUS that these two are together and yet this new guy is hitting on my friend's gf, he doesn't really react and she clearly isn't taken with him, so no real issue right? However, they become Facebook friends and this new guy is liking all her photos, he sent her his number in a message and even asked if she was free to hang out one time! This hangout was with friends, but her bf (my friend) wouldn't be there.

My mate obviously doesn't trust this guy, and I think he is getting jealous and I don't want it to harm his relationship. What should I do? I am having second thoughts about this new friend since he seems to be a bit of a scumbag and his behaviour is out of line. He seems to be attending a lot of our gatherings and it seems rude to tell him to fuck off.

It just really angers me that he is being a snake and trying to get on my close friends girlfriend, thought he was better than that. I told my friend to be unaffected and laugh it off, but it's easier said than done when a guy is creeping over your girl.

Hey mate I've been in a similar situation. The way I handled it was act unaffected like you said I am a very confident person so I wasn't worried that my gf was gonna leave me and she's a grown up she can handle herself but when he crossed the line and started creeping hard I stepped in. I'd definitely say scumbag is crossing the line. My advice would be make your mate aware which I am sure he is already maybe you have a word with scumbag tell him what he's doing is not cool you were nice enough to let him into your group of friends and you don't appreciate his asshole behavior and if he doesn't smarten up tell him to fck off. Hopefully that helps a bit good luck.

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 Post subject: Re: Scumbag friend
PostPosted: Thu Aug 01, 2013 6:23 am 
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Aw man. You gotta cut that shit out before drama unfolds. That isn't cool at all if he is doing all that. Clear disrespect to your mate and his girl.

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 Post subject: Re: Scumbag friend
PostPosted: Thu Aug 01, 2013 1:32 pm 
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If he is not close friends with your wingman/friend I don't think he is being a scumbag. He's just a guy going after a taken girl. It's your friend's gf responsibility to shut him down. She knows he was hitting on her so accepting the friend request and allowing him to game her is her fault. All she had to do was ignore the request, and not get into conversation with him. She knows what he wants and she's still talking to him. It's way to easy to ignore someone completely. Don't go defending someone who hasn't protected themself.


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 Post subject: Re: Scumbag friend
PostPosted: Thu Aug 01, 2013 1:57 pm 
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If he is not close friends with your wingman/friend I don't think he is being a scumbag. He's just a guy going after a taken girl. It's your friend's gf responsibility to shut him down. She knows he was hitting on her so accepting the friend request and allowing him to game her is her fault. All she had to do was ignore the request, and not get into conversation with him. She knows what he wants and she's still talking to him. It's way to easy to ignore someone completely. Don't go defending someone who hasn't protected themself.

I totally agree with this. Girls like attention and when there's an opportunity to get attention they rarely say no to it. Speaking from experience I've stolen guys gf's before and when she got caught and shit arose from it, it was all my fault she tried to blame everything on me. I said sorry darlin but you have a brain in your head your a big girl that's capable of thinking for herself you could have ignored my advances not gave me your # not agreed to hang out but you didn't, it takes 2 to tango you're just as much at fault if not more at fault then I am, but her bf took her back defended her and she probably is cheating on him right now oh well not my problem. Anyway what I am trying to say is maybe talk to your mate's gf tell her the attention she may or may not be getting from this guy is not worth losing her bf over. To me it sounds like she's attracted to him because she thinks he's a badboy. Tell her what a loser you think this guy is that he's not a friend and you hope she doesn't do anything to hurt your mate's feelings because he's a good guy. Hope that helps a bit good luck.


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 Post subject: Re: Scumbag friend
PostPosted: Thu Aug 01, 2013 4:19 pm 
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As others said, it's partly the girl's fault too.

Personally, I would tell this dude to fuck off and stop macking on one of my best friend's gf. It's one thing if he is a complete stranger to the situation, but he isn't. You should clear things up with him.


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 Post subject: Re: Scumbag friend
PostPosted: Thu Aug 01, 2013 5:28 pm 
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Dude is doing your friend a huge favor. If she can get hit on and still accept someone on fb, shows she puts up and entertains advances. If this guy had met her in the bus stop, hit on her and added her on fb, your friend would not know. My thing is, I can't get mad at someone for mcking my girl unless he's a personal friend. If my girl were giving him opportunities to talk to her that's on her.


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 Post subject: Re: Scumbag friend
PostPosted: Thu Aug 01, 2013 6:41 pm 
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Honestly, if the situation doesn't sit well with you, do something about it. You have to go off of your own principles- you can't let a bunch of guys online tell you what to do based on their experiences and character.

With that said, I think it would be fair to tell your friend and see what his opinion of it is. If he's not concerned, you shouldn't be either. If he is, let him deal with it. You're a third party- even though you brought the guy into your friend group, you shouldn't deal with his business with other people, no matter how bad you think it is.

And with that being said, I would personally not keep contact with this dude. What if you get a girlfriend next week and he goes behind your back? Judge people by their actions, not the fact that he is your friend. All you can do is determine your own actions.

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 Post subject: Re: Scumbag friend
PostPosted: Fri Aug 02, 2013 12:00 am 
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I was kind of assuming she accepted the request on FB because he hung out with all of our friends.

He hasn't made any more advances, but gonna keep an eye on it, having lots of second thoughts about this guy.

My friend's girl hasn't really entertained his advances, she doesn't reply to his messages on Facebook and makes her boyfriend fully aware. My friend is liable to give the guy a beating if it carries on, hopefully it won't amount to violence.


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 Post subject: Re: Scumbag friend
PostPosted: Sat Aug 03, 2013 8:06 am 
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I wouldn't hang out with this guy if that is happening. Had a few so called 'friends' try stuff like that with other friends girls and don't talk to them anymore.

It's one of those unwritten rules, atleast if you have respect for your friends that you don't go for these girls. A guy doing that wouldn't be part of my social group anymore.

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