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PostPosted: Sat Jul 20, 2013 5:10 am 
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MPUA, you have been very tolerant of my antics and have tried to help me. Your advice did not fall on deaf ears, it did transform me. All that time you stuck with me and tried to help me along the way and ever since coming to this forum back in 2011 I have learned so much and grown. At this point, I feel like this part of my development is complete and now I need to move forward.

I came on the forum to ask questions about dating that people in real life would give extremely poor answers to give BS like "oh don't worry about it, the right girl will come along".


So for the past few days (and even weeks) I had been thinking about it and now I have decided. I have been on internet forums for far too long and it has stopped me from fully living my life. In late September I will turn 21 and after that, life is going to go by FAST. I cannot be on forums just posting when I have a life to live and when I get older the experiences I have had in life will matter more than arguments and posts on online forums. At this point I have realized that there are not any more important things I have to learn from the forums and at this point I am wasting my time along with everyone else's.

In 2011 I came to the MPUA forum because I was out of high school, a virgin, no experience with women, and I had my first crush on a girl. Ended up failing with her, found this forum through google, and then I came on here. Also in my search through google I found a lot of negative material on PUA forums about men of my background (Indian men) and Indian men talking about how bad women have treated them.

This created a very powerful limiting belief in my mind that pretty much became my identity on this forum (unfortunately).

On the bright side, because of this forum, I was able to go from being an 18 year virgin to getting 10 lays in 2012. Even though I managed to get laid, it wasn't with the kind of women I wanted to and this just added to my limiting beliefs. But thanks to this forum my limiting belief is not nearly as bad as it was when I first joined. I managed to have a lot of success for my age and even started a blog which helped others succeed and turn their dating lives around.

Now there have been members on here who have accused me of having accounts on other forums asking this question about Indians and interracial dating and even posted some link to the roosh v forum. I want to say that some of that is actually true, I did do that, but not to the extent roosh's forum made it out to be (I have been on 4 other forums than this one, the rest were probably some other Indian guys).

I was also banned from those forums but fortunately, you always had fate in my MPUA, you always did. You gave me advice when I was being rude to some of you, you always tried to reason with me and help me, and you stuck with me throughout the process. Had it not been for this forum I would still be a virgin who hadn't touched a girl and because of this forum I was able to be more than just that.

You guys might not know it but your advice really paid off for me and truly made a sheltered kid like me who didn't have a chance at the typical high school experience grow into a somebody. I will look back on my years at MPUA as being the kind of years where I grew. Was never able to develop into a respected figure but maybe one day I will develop into a respected figure somewhere.

I have thought this out and reflected on it and at this point I feel like it is best if I just quit posting on forums in general. Would be good to leave a forum willingly rather than being banned permanently. It was a privilege to meet guys like MajikalMethod, Wasabi, Pumpington, poeticlyskuac and many others, even though I had bad run ins with some of you, you still made an impact on me. Usually I would argue with the haters but after a while you just let them have their cheap little insults which make their miserable validation seeking lives so fulfilling. The want their last word like a crazy woman in a relationship and after a while you just learn to let them be since arguing with them is not worth it.

You guys were the kind of friends I wish I had the chance to hang out with in real life and I could have benefited so much from. A lot of you are good people and I have learned that this community is one of the best communities for a newcomer to grow in. Believe me, other forums were not able to help me as much or even give much much of a chance, you guys gave me a chance and it really paid off. I am grateful for it but now I feel like my life needs to be about more action, less internet time, and even more real life interactions. What I have had to gain from the forums I gained, knowledge is great but you can't spend your whole life sitting down and thinking.

Farewell guys!

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PostPosted: Sat Jul 20, 2013 10:48 pm 
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Didn't you make this post already in general questions: i-want-to-quit-posting-and-live-life-fu ... 65555.html


The reason why i fuck with you and give you a hard time, is cause, you are addicted to attention/troll like behavior... You also have a limited belief and that is, i suck cause i am Indian, instead of i suck cause i am not socially calibrated(a forum dude knows you and goes to your same school/uni and has talked to you, but you don't know who he is). You also may have deeper issues that are not solved by pua, sarging or forums but by a professional therapy(nothing wrong with that). Many gurus like Mark Manson/teevester and others go to therapy. I really advise you, you get professional help. Unless you are "trolling" till this day i don't know if you are a "troll" or you are just "addicted to the pad on the back attention". Another thing which is demoralizing is that you have a blog, giving how to, when you have not achieve even a decent level of success.

This is an article written by cost of success, hope it helps:

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Managing progress: Bait, Switch and Ignore
Here is a not too uncommon sticking point for guys that get into a bit of a rut.
The symptom of an underlying issue expresses itself in three ways.
Ego - They will ignore all advice that will help them improve
Facade - They will charm people with flickers of success, and dangle it like a carrot, decieving the reader into a trap
Trap - They will pull the carrot away, in order that the reader, advisor, then feels as SHITTILY as they do

They do these three repetitively and with mathmatical precision.

They bait a person into empathising with their seemingly "familiar" condition, only to then later reveal it is a ruse and make themselves "mr special" and act like the condition is no longer universal but unsolveable because of THEIR context (which they elaborate on only if it suits the bait and switch model). Then lastly, engaged and titilated by peoples responses, they then ignore any helpful threads, they instead purposely highlight what helps strengthen their bait and switch plan, ignoring any genuine advice as "out of context here and irrelevant".

~~~

The core reality is that they are uncomfortable with their living conditions. We've all been there.
So they are trying to rationalise why they are not internally flawed, by highlighting external conditions that can take the blame.

The issue is thusly a low sense of self worth, that they are trying to bolster up via an external means.
They are notoriously good at making stuff about themselves, but horrible at leadership, because all their ideas on how to have fun involve a group telling them how not flawed they are.

~~~

How a guy gets out of this is self determination. And actually finding that condition to be insulting to his character.
He desires to NOT be seen as a leech, and so pulls his shit together. And mends his bait and switch behaviour.



How to mend bait and switch behaviour?
You've gotta learn to create new frames for talking about your troubles. Instead of saying "this is why it doesn't work" (expert of failure), try to learn to "make a step forwards" every time you are given a piece of advice to "pay back the favor".

If you get 50 responses, you go out and you don't let those words go without some support, backing and balls on your part.

~~~

When you stop bait, switching and ignoring, and start returning the favor, you will gain a deeper and more positive attitude, and you won't need as much validation, because you'll bring some to the table.



You cannot seduce women, if your idea of fun is self medication. You can only lead people if you have the determination to pay it back and then some, when people give you something to work with.

Additional:
We all bait, switch and ignore to some degree, and thats ok. But just make sure to manage it so it doesn't get out of control, otherwise, THAT will be your go to thing... And when its your go to thing, you are in some serious trouble until you stop the habit and get back on the road again, if only because you have given up on giving back value.

If you have the habit, then I wish you all the best, good luck with it

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PostPosted: Sun Jul 21, 2013 3:23 am 
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I am always confused when any member posts a "farewell" message on any forum. "I need to go experience REAL LIFE they say." I never understood how a couple minutes of browsing forums took away so much from an individuals day. Very interesting. Dueces bud.

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PostPosted: Mon Jul 22, 2013 1:42 am 
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hope you find success paramount dude. even though i have not been active on these forums throughout the time that you were here, I have tried to help occasionally whenever i am online. it seems like your main problem was what skills pointed out, you would blame yourself, ethnicity and outside factors instead of being a man and taking charge of your situation. I am glad that you finally realize your prior behavior and are now making moves to man up to become the best version of yourself possible rather than stay on the forums to bitch at anyone and everything. I wish you luck on your journey and the new chapter of your life.

I personally was on the forums a bit too much back in the day and i stepped away from the keyboard to live my life. i blamed myself for not fulfilling my desires so i simply disappeared off the forums. Without announcing it or making a scene i went on my way to intermittently return to the forum to help newbies and drop some knowledge that i have learned during my time away from the boards.

I would welcome your continued participation on the forum but without your prior frequency or trollish behavior. feel free to keep in touch and tell us how you are doing in the real world.

always keep sarging and try new things. Master pick up artists are successful because they have tested themselves to the limit.

intelligence is the ability to acquire and apply knowledge. wisdom is the accumulated knowledge that gives the ability to discern or judge what is true, right, or lasting. By pushing yourself, your experiences give you the common sense and insight to be successful in a variety of circumstances.

GOOD LUCK BRO!

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PostPosted: Mon Jul 22, 2013 4:21 pm 
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I am always confused when any member posts a "farewell" message on any forum. "I need to go experience REAL LIFE they say." I never understood how a couple minutes of browsing forums took away so much from an individuals day. Very interesting. Dueces bud.

He is not going anywhere, paramount will stop posting, but he may come out and post under a different name, i can bet any amount of money on that.

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PostPosted: Fri Jul 26, 2013 11:39 pm 
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MPUA, you have been very tolerant of my antics and have tried to help me. Your advice did not fall on deaf ears, it did transform me. All that time you stuck with me and tried to help me along the way and ever since coming to this forum back in 2011 I have learned so much and grown. At this point, I feel like this part of my development is complete and now I need to move forward.

I came on the forum to ask questions about dating that people in real life would give extremely poor answers to give BS like "oh don't worry about it, the right girl will come along".


So for the past few days (and even weeks) I had been thinking about it and now I have decided. I have been on internet forums for far too long and it has stopped me from fully living my life. In late September I will turn 21 and after that, life is going to go by FAST. I cannot be on forums just posting when I have a life to live and when I get older the experiences I have had in life will matter more than arguments and posts on online forums. At this point I have realized that there are not any more important things I have to learn from the forums and at this point I am wasting my time along with everyone else's.

In 2011 I came to the MPUA forum because I was out of high school, a virgin, no experience with women, and I had my first crush on a girl. Ended up failing with her, found this forum through google, and then I came on here. Also in my search through google I found a lot of negative material on PUA forums about men of my background (Indian men) and Indian men talking about how bad women have treated them.

This created a very powerful limiting belief in my mind that pretty much became my identity on this forum (unfortunately).

On the bright side, because of this forum, I was able to go from being an 18 year virgin to getting 10 lays in 2012. Even though I managed to get laid, it wasn't with the kind of women I wanted to and this just added to my limiting beliefs. But thanks to this forum my limiting belief is not nearly as bad as it was when I first joined. I managed to have a lot of success for my age and even started a blog which helped others succeed and turn their dating lives around.

Now there have been members on here who have accused me of having accounts on other forums asking this question about Indians and interracial dating and even posted some link to the roosh v forum. I want to say that some of that is actually true, I did do that, but not to the extent roosh's forum made it out to be (I have been on 4 other forums than this one, the rest were probably some other Indian guys).

I was also banned from those forums but fortunately, you always had fate in my MPUA, you always did. You gave me advice when I was being rude to some of you, you always tried to reason with me and help me, and you stuck with me throughout the process. Had it not been for this forum I would still be a virgin who hadn't touched a girl and because of this forum I was able to be more than just that.

You guys might not know it but your advice really paid off for me and truly made a sheltered kid like me who didn't have a chance at the typical high school experience grow into a somebody. I will look back on my years at MPUA as being the kind of years where I grew. Was never able to develop into a respected figure but maybe one day I will develop into a respected figure somewhere.

I have thought this out and reflected on it and at this point I feel like it is best if I just quit posting on forums in general. Would be good to leave a forum willingly rather than being banned permanently. It was a privilege to meet guys like MajikalMethod, Wasabi, Pumpington, poeticlyskuac and many others, even though I had bad run ins with some of you, you still made an impact on me. Usually I would argue with the haters but after a while you just let them have their cheap little insults which make their miserable validation seeking lives so fulfilling. The want their last word like a crazy woman in a relationship and after a while you just learn to let them be since arguing with them is not worth it.

You guys were the kind of friends I wish I had the chance to hang out with in real life and I could have benefited so much from. A lot of you are good people and I have learned that this community is one of the best communities for a newcomer to grow in. Believe me, other forums were not able to help me as much or even give much much of a chance, you guys gave me a chance and it really paid off. I am grateful for it but now I feel like my life needs to be about more action, less internet time, and even more real life interactions. What I have had to gain from the forums I gained, knowledge is great but you can't spend your whole life sitting down and thinking.

Farewell guys!

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Of course you're leaving. See you next month brah.


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Of course you're leaving. See you next month brah.
I disagree... I think it will only be a week.... well I guess next week is next month.

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