Dude fuck then I look like a bitch. Im shitting myself.

Do you think he would actually kill me or is he just talk.

Good idea with calling the police I think I will do that.

Didnt the dude already beat you up in front of her? I don't know how anyone can come out looking alpha when they get beat up. I dont care if you're bigger than him, wittier than him, get more girls than him, have a bigger cock than him and less needy than him. Someone beats you up in front of a chick and its obvious to know which is the alpha male. Girl is playing both of you and getting wet off the drama while fucking a third and fourth guy. I can guarantee you that she is not telling you the truth about anything. This story (if real) is exactly how guys get killed or messed up over a HO. She aint staying with him for fear, heck you can report people for threatening to reveal stuff about you and slandering your name.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7AbPI7muKhQ
skip to 4:14 and thats you. You're getting played by a cheater and this is either going to end in heartbreak for you or a busted face. There is no happily ever after with a cheater like this

boys,

I can see that I am getting repetitive and in fact looking like I am losing my mind or going “needy” as you guys call it.

I think it is because I am all over the place in this thread. When I look at the replies I see a set of different replies; where skills and a few other PUA’s tell me to play the secret lover and roll along with the tide and fuck her more discretely. Others say to drop her and that I am “getting played” – Is this true?

Today we were texting and I told her to come over, she did and she told me that last night her “bf” or “ex bf” (cuz he won’t say they are dating but is with her every day and texting her every second) kept asking questions about me last night. She said it is hard to lie about me. She also said that he “wants to kill you”. That literally made my testicles shrivel up inside of me. Anyways, as she was there she started talking to me saying that she loves me and I am in another world – thinking about the different ways I might die. I asked her if this guy is crazy, are you okay with being with a guy who wants to kill me? She said ( I don’t think he will ) but “I mean I don’t know”.

So she starts touching me, and starts turning me on, surprised I am getting turned on. I end up fucking her, while he is texting her. Inside I realize this is fucked and say she should answer it he might go crazy. I start to act like I don’t want to see this girl, which I can see makes her a bit more into me. She says “what are you thinking”, “why are you so quiet”, “god I love you”, and all that shit.

I realized I value my life a fuck load, but I want this girl to want to be with me. So maybe in the future I can actually be with her and she will always be like damn I want whysoskinny. I feel like she is now getting used to her bf again (they barely spent time together before) but now he is always with her she feels like she may have a relationship again. Now maybe I am just the side guy, but then a part of thinks she sends me that really deep text (please read it again 2 pages back) and maybe she loves me and is just scared for mine and her safety.

I don’t know the answers. I don’t know what I should do. I do know that this girl and I had the best time ever and I definitely to a degree love this girl. I admit I have a bit of oneitis because I am used to her. I could get over her though because I have been through a lot as you guys know.

When we were together today I felt like she was super into me because I wans’t trying to fight with her, infact I say you should stay with him, which she replied “why would you say that”. I said to “control your dog and make sure he doesn’t do anything stupid”. Since then she has been with him, normally she texts me but I have gotten nothing. Something has changed.


1) What will get her wanting me most? (Is it too late to even do it?)
2) How do I handle the crazy bf, is he all talk or do I go to the police. We have class this Friday (me and her) and he will be there I think because he knows what time and place I am.
3) Am I being played, or is she genuinely just confused? Is she aware she is playing me?
4) What would you say to this girl, supporting the advice you give, as I am lost for words right now.

1. Follow basic attraction formula. Shorter replies than her, be spontaneous, sometimes be all romantic, other times act completely aloof. Just keep her guessing, push-pull, a simple google search or forum search will go into more detail. Don't even talk about the bf, it is her problem not yours. But make it clear to her, that she handles her shit, you handle yours. For example, tell her you care about her, but you value your life more. So if he overtly makes any threats or physically harms you, you have to tell her you will walk away.

2. About the bf, lets see what happens on Friday. But if you see them together, pretend they don't even exist. Walk the other way even after class. As i said previously, her bf is her shit, not yours. If you just want to bang her, then do that. But if you want a relationship with her, man up, tell her you arent comfortable being "the other guy".Then go NC for a few days, "instill a fear of loss"

3. Sounds like she does have feelings for you, since if she only wanted to fuck, she would likely have found someone else by now who isnt "known" by her bf. So she is likely confused. However i dont see her choosing you over the bf. Rule of thumb, judge someone by there previous actions, not their words. Its likely people repeat the same patterns again. So if you feel yourself become very emotionally invested, i would say go fuck 10 other girls.

4.DEPENDS ON WHAT YOU WANT.
<<Want to girlfriend her>>
Then man the fuck up and tell her you aren't comfortable with the current situation.
<<Want to just carry on fucking her>>
Tell her to handle her bf, change the logistics, maybe find a new place to fuck? Without any chance of him showing up. Change your name on her phone to some random guy, so if he reads her texts, (which im assuming he will since he seems whipped by her and pretty controlling ) then he wont know they are from you, he will be chasing a made up name.

Good luck

s.e.e.d

Why am I not surprised? I warned you about this way back in May.
This is basically all there is to it.

The only thing here is that she hasn't entirely rejected you because you're still being strung along. In a sense, she knows she still has you because I bet she feels she could fuck you if she wanted to, whenever she wanted to. So has she lost you? No. And until you realize you're still being strung along, nothing good will ever come of your situation. To give her the impression you're gone, is to actually be gone by cutting all contact and moving out of her life. Only then will she realize she has to make a choice between you two. Because right now, she has two guys in her life - double win for her.

And what about you? What do you have? A confused girl with no clear direction. Mind you, your situation is better than what it was several months ago with the other girl, but still not that much better. If your last short relationship is any clue, I have a gut feeling you'll have an extremely hard time moving on from this girl. Prove me wrong.

Whysoskinny, mate, you are her second choice while she is your only choice.
This is why you're so outcome dependent.
If she wanted you as a bf, she would've dropped him. You can't save face since he kicked you in front of her.
If you value pussy more than your physical and mental integrity, by all means, go ahead with this.
I honeestly think you should just end it.

So I decided to walk away, I texted her:
Look if you want to be with me, on my team with with me we can go trough this together. I will keep you safe if that's your fear and I won't let anything happen to you. I will make you happy in every way I possibly know how to and show you sides of me I have showed no one. Look at what were we came to so fast just imagine where we can go. If you want this to happen we can do it together


She replied:
obviously i want to be with you. you are a breath of fresh air and someone that is new and exciting to me. everytime i see you i get giddy and smile and i know we are a perfect match. its not that easy though!!!! he is still not in a good mental state of mind and im helping him cope because what i did was pretty heart breaking for him. i'm sorry i can't just leave him at this time to do this by himself. especially when i deny everything betwen us to him

I replied: Listen, i have had some of the best times of my life with you, and im crazy about you to the point that i get a hard on at random times when you cross my mind, but im trying to understand it from your point of view. ill let you "help cope" your heartbroken boy then. See you


She replied: so have i!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! we don't even need to go to places or spend money we make it a good time together!! im so frustrated with myself right now. why are u saying see you? i still want to talk to you and be around you although we are lovers you're still my friend <3


I haven't replied, should I? I'm going to wait for you guys to let me know if I did we'll or not. She's going to text me again, probably saying "so what you're done ", or " okay so you don't want to talk to me".

Did I do the right thing and can you give me some examples on how to reply

So I decided to walk away, I texted her:
Look if you want to be with me, on my team with with me we can go trough this together. I will keep you safe if that's your fear and I won't let anything happen to you. I will make you happy in every way I possibly know how to and show you sides of me I have showed no one. Look at what were we came to so fast just imagine where we can go. If you want this to happen we can do it together


She replied:
obviously i want to be with you. you are a breath of fresh air and someone that is new and exciting to me. everytime i see you i get giddy and smile and i know we are a perfect match. its not that easy though!!!! he is still not in a good mental state of mind and im helping him cope because what i did was pretty heart breaking for him. i'm sorry i can't just leave him at this time to do this by himself. especially when i deny everything betwen us to him

I replied: Listen, i have had some of the best times of my life with you, and im crazy about you to the point that i get a hard on at random times when you cross my mind, but im trying to understand it from your point of view. ill let you "help cope" your heartbroken boy then. See you


She replied: so have i!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! we don't even need to go to places or spend money we make it a good time together!! im so frustrated with myself right now. why are u saying see you? i still want to talk to you and be around you although we are lovers you're still my friend <3


I haven't replied, should I? I'm going to wait for you guys to let me know if I did we'll or not. She's going to text me again, probably saying "so what you're done ", or " okay so you don't want to talk to me".

Did I do the right thing and can you give me some examples on how to reply

I'll put the tl;dr here for everyone who doesn't want to read all that:



-A girl loves a guy, but won't dump her boyfriend for him.
-girl gets caught cheating, has pity sex with bf so he won't ruin her rep (aka the fact that shes a slut)
-OP posts on here hoping people will tell him to go after this girl, even though she's 100% not gf material.


have i missed anything?

Honestly I respect you for walking away from a girl/boyfriend that clearly have issues, its tough say no to but the good news is your going out of country a free man and will forget about her for at least a while.

Make your own decision and pick the dude who to listen too... Put a restraining order on the dude, i pmed you, and dropping her is not a bad idea, if you are scare for your life, that changes the equation.

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I am glad you finally took my advice

Dropping her and letting her hear through the grapevine that you are seeing other girls will force her to show her cards. If she really is 'that crazy' about you, the pangs of jealousy will bring her to you.

I also agree with Skills that you should try and pacify the guy. Tell him you deserved it, had it coming, and wish him the best with his girl.

Yes, this girl might be hot and crazy about you, but you're still super young. You have at least another 30 years of virility where there will be so many other girls who want you just as bad if not more.

The ONLY circumstance I think you can safely hook up with this girl is if she is SINGLE.

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Thanks for all the advice.

Its fucked man, this circle keeps continuing. I didn't want to post because of the disappointment but:

She spoke to me a lot yesterday, i didn't really reply, this morning she texts me. We talk a bit and then she tells me about his night and how "it's not as good" as it is with you and so on. I tell her that, listen, i made my choice, i respect your choice, don't talk to me again and focus on your relationship. She starts crying again, she says "please can i come over", i say... no. She says please, i say, fuck do whatever you wish. She comes over, says she has been crying.

I fuck her, make her squirt cum and all that shit, did it again. I came over her face, in her mouth even inside her. (fucked up i know). Then she says she has a letter for me, which she wrote a lot in but wont let me read it, she read the first paragraph and it was really cute.

She says, I can t ever not talk to you, although we are friends we are lovers, no one has ever said the things you said to me or done the things you did.

I say, listen, i care for you, but you made your decision and i respect it, if you want to talk to me anytime you know you can come over (in my mind thinking about sex), but i am not expecting anything anymore from you or us.

Before we use to have fire and passion, now its a bit dying cuz its teh same thing, she comes over, cries, and its sad because she mae her choice.

I havent texted her since but she just sent me a snapchat saying "ive been crying like a bitch".

I think me walking away would of been more effective if i just dissapear, i think i fucked up a bit cuz now she thinks im not a man of my word or maybe i have no respect for my self.

But how i see it is, i m trying to detatch and not care right now, and if i get sex thats cool. She can be with her bf for all i care. Im starting to get over her. When I came on her i thought, fuck... shes now going to kiss him. I washed my dick a lot and getting tested tomorrow. Sure i have nothing but making sure.

Carpe Diem my friend!