Hello and welcome to a long post.

I been playing for some time and I consider myself in the middle between natural and venusian arts school making a transition to natural. The reason of this long post is because I am the lousy lousy host of a One-itis virus. Before I start explaining the whole situation I want you to know that I am already hooking up with other girls and trying to get over it. However I still feel in my spine the need to get to know her a lot more in order to know for shure if it's just dumb me or if she is really special. I have done a ton of research on everything I could find on the "get her back" topic and I think most of it is bullshit so I tought that by starting a topic here, I could get some good counseling and It could also open the door of knowledge to a lot of people that are interested in how to manage this sort of situation.

A little background (sorry in advance for the AFC actions but I got lost in the ideal)

I met this girl in college via a friend of mine. After meeting, my friend told me that she told him that I was her type. However I was in a relationship at the time and had a couple of those for like 2 years. This summer, after breaking up with my most recent ex, I met her at a party but she ended up making out with her then current date (Metal AFC). I acted like if it wasn't a deal and just went my way around the party having a great time and hooked up with some hot scene girl.

After a while, I met her again at school and invited her to get together and see some shitty movie and got her number. Around that week, I met her again at some party, she didn't seem glad to find me there and she was kind of un-comunicative so I just left her alone and went my way around the party striking up fun conversations and making everybody have a good time. From the corner of my eye I could see her talking to the same guy all night and when she left (with her girldfriend) she went all the way to where I was to say Goodbye.

A week later, I called her on a saturday and arranged a meet. I picked up at her house, went to some pop-up art gallery and then had a beer together at some restaurant. Thare was some rapport and kino but there wasn't any kissing. She ended the date saying she had to go to some cousins party and I dropped her off.

A week later, around Thursday I was going to an art expo inaguration of a mutual friend and she called me to get a ride (when the place was like 6 blocks from her house). We arrived together had some drinks, talked with a lot of people we found there and had a good time. After that she remembered it was her sisters birthday and invited me to some friend of her sister's house where they where all having some drinks and some joints. There I made my way around had a nice talk to everyone in there while not really putting a lot of attention to her (wich I consider was a good thing). After a couple of hours, she told me she wanted to go home and again I droped her home and called a day.

That weekend I invited her to an all day concert wich takes place in various venues in the same neighborhood. Because I'm in the business I managed to get 2 vip passes for free and took her to see a lot of cool bands she never heard of but liked anyway. After one of the major bands we went back to my car to get some drinks ( I had a bottle of Jack in the car) and there, with a couple of drinks on us, she asked if I wanted to get really drunk I answered her that no that the thing I wanted to do was grab her hands (grabbed her hands), look into her eyes (locked eyes) and went for the kiss but she moved and I ended up kissing her eye. Trying to sound good I said something along the lines of "yes thats hat I wanted to do, kiss your eye" after that she took of her glasses and leaned over and I (again) went for the kiss this time succeding. After making out for a while, she suggested to go back to see some more bands. I got out of the car and grabed her hand. We went to see some other bands while holding hands and kissing and even ended up drinking with some of the bands backstage. After that we went to an open bar after party, danced, introduced her some people and at some point during the night she told me she had run out of kisses (maybe she puked from the alcohol and said that to hide it). I said I was ok with it as long as she didn't ran out of hugs. Around 2 she said she had to be back home and I drove her while she kissed my hand the whole time.

The next weekend she went to visit her parents to another city and we texted a bit with her saying stuff like "I want to kiss you so bad" or "I need your kisses". A week after that she suggested to go to the park and we arranged a picnic. I picked her up and we both brought food for our houses. Ate, had a bottle of wine. some whiskey, cuddled in the grass kissed and got kicked out at 6:00 because at that time they close the park. After leaving, she suggested going to her house where we drank some more Whiskey and made out more aggresevely. After a couple of hours of kissing, she made some dinner. Ate, cuddled and then we felt asleep (more like passed out). I woke up like 40 mins later and she was still sleeping and instead of leaving I (dumbly) woke her up. Made out a bit more, said goodbye and left.

The following two weeks she was away on weekends to see her parents we texted a bit but somehow she wasn't as interested in writing me back as before. After those weeks and a couple of days of not texting she texted me and proposed to get some dinner together. Again I picked her up, took her to the place had a light dinner (neither of us where hungry) talked a lot and after not kissing for the whole date I took her hand while walking back to the car and she wasn't having it (holding hands but not feeling her grip). After I left her home she said: "I think we shouldn't go out anymore like this" I asked her why and she told me "she didn't liked how things where going when it became a little more serious" and that "she didn't know" and LJBF. I told her I didn't wanted to be her friend because I would miss what we had everytime I saw her (and fuck being friends in general). After that I said the most AFC line ever in the whole universe "Can I get a last kiss" (I know) and she refused (obviously) so she hugged me very hard (I didn't really hugged her but just sort of standed there) and said I understood and that if she wanted that it was her choice and I was in no position to not allow her to do whatever she wanted.

A couple of weeks after that I runed into her at school because I was going to a couple of meetings and do a bit of research in the library. She was ith some guy and I greeted both of them with a smile and had a great talk (with the guy mostly) and ended up the conversation saying I was busy.

So that's the whole thing, I would really want to get her back because I beleive that the procedure in doing so (if it doesn't get her back) will improve my game and as I said before I really want to get to kno her better in order to know if maybe there was some really big thing between us. I know this really long post may have already bored you but if not I hope you can help me get her back or create some sort of stretegy to get a real shot. After we stopped dating, I haven't established any sort of contact besides that time we stumbled into each other at school. I erased her phone number to avoid calling/texting her but I still follow her on Twitter. I'm not really reading any of the stuff she writes except some tweets that show up while reading my timeline. I also don't have her on facebook (not because I erased her, i just never friended her).

My main strategy right now is having a great time and being a better person everyday and making everybody around me have a great time. I think that freezing her was a good step 1, maybe step 2 was the college meet and acting cool/fresh (not angry or ressentful) but I'm still doubtful about what to do next. After reading some similar things I think it has to do with her running into me at some place, me acting cool,talking to other girls and making everyone around me have a great time and by that making her feel she blowed a great thing thus pushing her to make step 4 wich would be her establishing contact.

I would really apreciate the help and I know some people could improve in the game by reading and using the tips I hope this Thread generates. Thank You in advance.

PanthomTwist

Dude i can so F***ING Relate to this !!1 like its not even funny .... i guess i can share my little experience... BTW i seemed maybe you kinda seemed hesitant to take things past making out and sexually escalating and MAYBE thats why she friendzoned you ??? just assuming... i could be wrong...


But anyways... my story


so pretty much i met this HB9.5 a couple months ago and we met cause i opened her at a club and we started to talk.. i kino'd and escalated and the next day we went out to a nice venue where we had a good time... during that day we talked and i kino escalated and made out and the next day she said that she wanted me to be her BF.. so i said okay ... so we were dating for a couple weeks and i guess the third week she said that she NEEDED space.. so i said " Okay!.. well i hope you're doing well ... so a few days later im at a club with some friends and im sitting with two HB8/9s and she sees me as WELL... she comes over and asks how ive been and i tell her GREAT! (showing signs of alpha male and me moving on) as a matter of fact i even introduced her to the girls i was flirting with ///i then bounced those two girls to a pancake shop acros the street and kept talking ... she then texts my phone and says... " I miss what we had :/ " ... i didnt even text back lol .. she then texts me saying " im having a get together tomorrow at 5 ... We should hangout ? " .. i text her " Sure ! " The next day(which was pretty recent) she calls me in the morning and we build comfort . When i go to her house..... we talked in her room and started escalating sexually... and pretty much did it twice that night ... she even told me she was stupid for having us be apart sooo... now we're just friends with benefits cause i said so... (:




PRETTY MUCH what im trying to get at IS. Live your life.. Have a good time/vibe/energy and MOVE ON man ... ! game other girls and show that you're the alpha male and tribal leader. ssoooo just my .02

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Hey Mr.DjMagiclove

Thanks for replying. Now that you mention it when we were in her house after the picnic, I started kissing her boob and looking for the nipple with my tongue (wich does wonders) and when I was doing that, she excused herself to go pee (drunk girls love peeing). When she returned, we continued to make out and doing some hip moves (fucking with our clothes on). After a while she said she had enough with the "hip thing" and walked to the kitchen. I followed and she rubber her ass on my crutch and I said "Was that a pelvic movement" and she laughed but sort of freezed me and I went with the thing for a while but (dumbly?) after some ten minutes I was again starting the kissing thing. I sort of got some prude vibes and that's why I didn't push her to an f-close (wich would have been damn good in retrospective).

I feel that the reason of the LJBF thing was a matter of me forgeting how to play or just thinking she shouldn't be played because she was nice (I know). So I guess i showed my cards to soon and told her some nice things and came out as needy/clingy because of that (AFC lame shit). I am deeply sorry for doing this and it's a great learning if you put the whole thing in perspective. However I'm getting older and kind of getting bored with hooking up with dumb girls and wanted to get something more meaningful (lame) and instead of playing it super suave I ended up projecting a bit too much and screwing the whole thing.

I am definitely considering your perspective and I guess I'll be analyzing if it was a factor. Thanks you very much por your help and you have the strongest point by saying I should just enjoy myself and live to the fullest and the whole "plenty o fish in the sea". Congrats on that girl, loved the "introducing the other girls to her" part. Had you f-closed before she said she needed space?

You have been of great help.

To be honest man, im loooking for a Long-term serious relationship as well, i hate the whole getting the "dumb girls" theory HOWEVER only 9/10s and quality women will come into your life if you ARE PRESELECTED by OTHER women. trust me on this one.. Women are curious creatures and they want to find out so to speak WHY women are talking to you ..... they think you're a catch . so BASICALLY what im saying is that.... that ONE Gorgeous quality super hot 10 across the room wont give you the chance UNLESS she knows that you're getting gamed by other women. You don't NEED to be gamed by other women for her to notice .... it just makes it 80% easier. sooo i can understand the whole AFC thing as i was once there....

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Hey man, I think you are 100% right. I guess that the proper next step would be getting over her banging a lot of chicks and not hoping she takes the next step. I'll keep hooking up and improving my game in order to get hotter girls (at least than her) so if she decides to take the next step I will be way suav-er, cooler etc and not fuck it up like the last time. I'll keep you posted if that happens.

Thanks again for the feedback and the advice!.

P

Good luck man! keep us updated.

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Hey JoeySkillz I had already read that. I understand it's quite a classic, It's great the way it throws light on many aspects of the "getting her back" topic. I must read it again to see if I find anything that helps that I left out.

Thanks for you help!

P

Hey guys,

It's been a long time so I tought that maybe some of you would be interested in knowing what has been going on in this particular situation (or not). Here what has been happening: Almost Nothing. I haven't been in touch with her since our las meet and I have been using that time to become a better man. Going out sarging a lot, hooking up, improving my game, making new friends, learning new things and having long walks.

The thing is that I still feel the need to get her back (otherwise I guess I wouldn't be writing here). SO far the only sort of contact I have had is her favouring one of my tweets and that's it so I was wondering if anybody had any sort of advice in order to re-establich contact and escalate from there.

Thanks in advance for your attention and I hope all is great.

Pnthm.

probably not the response you want to hear but at this point its probably best to do nothing and move on. She is either not interested or has another dude by now or both. Hard to do when you really like a girl and saw potential but its your best bet. If you see her just keep acting unaffected and keep the conversation light. GOOD LUCK

haha

this is so lame. why do you need old shit if you are gold?

Hey man, you were right. It is lame and I guess that if I was 100% golden I wouldn't still be missing her. I have been trying new things almost everyday and I try to keep myself busy but I guess I still need to get more girls in order to get over her.

She recently added me on Facebook wich I don't normally use so a friend told me that she asked him why I haven't accepted her yet because she wanted to invite me to her birthday party. The thing is supposed to stert with a few drinks on her friends house and the going to a club where I normally organize gigs/parties. So the question is: Should I go or not?

And if you think I should...any tips on how to act, behave, etc?

Thank you all for the replies and for keeping this post somehow alive.

P

Thank you very much for replying. You are right: that is not what I wanted to hear but it's a good thing to hear because our ego is on the way of our success. I haven't talked to her at all after the conversations mentioned on the first post. It's not like I have been avoiding her, it's just that I haven't seen her anywhere. Thank you very much for replying.

P

Hello to all those select people reading this.

If you are a MPUA you should have totally have predicted this if not for that group of people who didn't predict this, this whole update should be called: Crash and burn: the ultimate what not to do to get her back.

As lame as it sounds I went to her fucking bithday thingy and it was not just awful but the kind of awful you only expect that could be good in the long term but deffinatelly lame, shitty and whatever you may call it on the short term.

I had some plan of getting some canned lines mostly taken from the "Tease routines tread by Jay wa" and appart from being some golden lines, It was deffinatelly not apliable to this situation. I got this great look, I left my ring in my house in order for her to notice that it was missing and if that happened I would tell her it was kidnapped by a friend an letting her wonder if it was just a friend the one who kidnapped it. However that was not the case. What you are about to read is just miserable and shitty.

I arrived to her friends house late with a bottle of wine and inmediattly after I arrived, she ran to meet me and I told her something about putting the bottle in the bar and she obliged. After some nice talking where I felt I was talking way to entuasiastic I told her that it was a surprise It was her birthday and that I had mind powers to know how many years she had wich I already knew and tough she knew so I said some apparently funny shit like "you are turning 52, no 5 no I can read minds 7!" wich she didn't got at all.

So I ejected citing that I had to give a glass of wine to the guy at the door wich I had promised and I ejected feeling suave as Humprey Bogart. After I returned, I worked out the room talked to almost every sigle one at the party (brothers and frieds included) and I noticed some AFC hitting on her like if there was no tomorrow. I talked for a while with a couple of girls (nothing interesting. ) and kept talking to her a few times making sure it didn't seem like I was all over her.

However after some hours of being the life of the party I kept noticing this lame AFC just hitting on her non stop like the shittiest sarging ever (like AFC gone caveman) I didn't drink a lot in order to have the best possible advantage since everybody was really drunk. At some point I talked to her and I said "How is your party going: High, medium or low (pointing whit my hand the different heights of her toughts about the party) and she said: "It was high but since you arrived it was like super high" so she said she wanted a smoke and I gave her some cigarrette somebody gave me and we moved to the terrace. She sat on the floor and I asked if she had a lighter and she said no so I told her to wait a second and I got the biggest canddle (wich was lit) in the house and dragged it to her to fire the smoke. I felt that was the turning point of the whole night. However this girlfriend of her just had to tell her something ( the kind of super deep drunk conv girls have) and I just ejected for a while. When the conv was over her cigarette was over too and she said she wanted a snack, being intercepted on the way by guess who? that guy! the thing was ridiculus, the girl was snacking on some chips and dip and the guy got a fucking apple bit it and just sort of shoved her the apple in her face thing that she couldn't have responded worst ( as in eww you freak).

Anyways I was really having my cool self all around the party (only like 5 people left) saw them kind of making out (however I am not 100% shure) and I just told the girl the line: "I need to leave at 3:17 " "Why at 3:17" "because I have a lot to do at 3:18" moved around the party while this girl was just being harrased by this AFC and decided to leave for good.

As a conclusion I guess that this night could be good in the long run (fuck) but totally a crash and burn in the short one. It could be good for me because the whole night I seemed fresco and witty and the guy from what I talked with him just seems like a dumb fuck wich is the main reason this could be good or me in the long run since dating a shitty guy just makes wonders for me. However I guess I was looking for a night like this in order to get over it, realize she is not worth of my attention. I guess I always knew what was waiting for me and I just tought it could be a good challenge to improve my skills as in a next step thing.

I am like 200% sure that if I didn't had that history whit her I would have totally succeded but it seems harder t succeed in this sort of scenario instead of the scenario of just meeting somebody in a club.

All I have to say is: Don't try this, this way. Maybe there's a way to get a girl back but it's much more difficult than starting clean. Use this to your advantage if you are in a similar situation and just see this shit as some bump on my road. This motherfucker is still sane. energic, and to fucking fun to believe to be down by this childish thing.

Out and Godspeed.

P

Hello Artists from all over this board,

I tought I would let this tread die however new things have arisen on the subject and I need your opinion on how I should proceed:

So after the birthday fiasco written above, a friend of mine went for lunch with this girl and she brought up our fling in the convo and said something along the lines of: That I had a huge impact on her life, she feels bad about what happened but that she kind of got cold feet at the moment and she didin't realized how much she had fucked up till recently but that she is leaving in january to study abroad for six months and she hopes that after she returns maybe we can get continue whatever we had.

To this, my friend told her she should be dumb and to call me and restart the whole thing soon. So, the other day we talked on fb for the first time ever and she sent me a script she made and asked my opinion on a character that was a mobster/con artist that somehow seemed a conbination between me and the main guy from 50 shades of gray. So, after I told her some comments on how to improve the character and the plot she asked me to play the part in a shortfilm she has to do as an assignment. After hesitating for a bit I said I was busy that day but I could squeeze some time in there to do that. After some small chat on the clothing needed I left her have the final word and got disconected.

She is supposed to let me know at what time are they filming tomorrow but so far hasn't establish comunication on the subject. And I don't think that writing her to ask the time is the right thing, I just asume that she will tell me without me having to ask her. So, assuming I show up to play the part tomorrow I was thinking of just being, cool, cocky/funny, social and in resume being the funnest guy in the whole room since there will be other people in there (mostly girls) and I can make her jelous by having a laugh and kino with her friends. I don't think that as good as I do it tomorrow will help me kiss close her but I do feel it can set ground to take her on a day 2 (not a date) and k or f close her then.

ANy thoughts on this? I know that given this whole history between us this will sound lame to a lot of you but right now I guess I'm just doing it for the challenge and to get back the dignity I left there. I also feel that this tread has evolved into a good manual on the whole "getting back subject" wich seems to be kind of a taboo in the community. In resume, this girl is really fucking hot and I want to fuck her brains out at least once.

With all my respect

P