Hey guys. There's this girl that I'm interested in and she seems as though she may be interested in me but the IOI's she's been giving me are kinda weak. We hit it off after our school ball and recently she was fishing for my number (which I didn't give her... stupid I know). She's an HB probably an 8 and is obviously single.

How do I build attraction with her and escalate to the point where something sexual might happen? Also is there a way where I can get her number now without lowering my value? Should I just straight up ask for it?

Any helps appreciated,

Thanks guys

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It seems like she's a shy girl. When looking for IOI's on a shy girl, you have to look for subtle body language signals. What are her feet doing? What are her legs doing? But since she wanted your number the IOI's is now out of the point. She wants you. The next time you see her, just ask her number. If a girl is really interested in you than you can play it easy.

Hey dude,

Stop looking for IOI's this is a geeky and ancient pua tactic. True players don't sit around checking for positive signs; they just interpret everything a girl does as a positive and they go after what they want. If you want her, go after her; rejection or not; she'll respect your assertion.

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Yeah I get where you're coming from, honestly IOI's come easy to me. Don't get me wrong I fall short in other areas but I can always tell (perhaps better than most people) whether or not a girl is interested.

Basically, to me looking for IOI's isn't employing a tactic. It's second nature.

Oh yeah and a quick update on the girl I was talking about. We're pretty much FWB now which is pretty sweet

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I disagree with this. Frankly, I'm surprised because it is from someone who normally gives good advice on this board. Interpreting IOIs and IODs is important because you use it to adjust your game (i.e. Calibration, one of the most important aspects of pickup) If you get to heavy with kino without enough signs of interest you will just come off as a creep when you could have gotten the girl if you just played it cool a little longer. If you can't identify an IOD, for example, that she is bored with the topic of conversation, you may not switch the topic to something that will get her interested again and you will come off as a boring loser. YOU MUST ALWAYS CALIBRATE.

Now don't get me wrong, I agree you should always ERR on the side of interpreting the grey areas as IOIs and be assertive and aggressive, but your statement basically implies to hell with calibration, and that is just wrong.

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You definitely have intellect and I respect that "theory", however I never apply that to my practice when getting with women. I do, say, and talk about what ever it is I feel like talking about that the moment. And 9 times out of 10 they're just happy to be having a conversation with me. Do you think brad pitt has to talk about "interesting topics" to get with women? They can't possibly be bored because they have the pleasure of speaking with brad pitt. Now I'm not saying im brad pitt but because I know my self worth its very rare that I have to tailor my actions based off the actions of another. I establish and control the frame. They laugh at my jokes because I think their funny. They think my conversation topics are interesting because I think they are interesting.

I guess what I'm really trying to say is.. I'm not out their trying to get with women, I'm just putting myself into positions for women to try and get with me. Your approach is 100% correct when you are the pursuer, but when you aren't I believe mines is correct. Are hot women calibrating with your every move? Or are you watching them trying to calibrate to them?

Women calibrate for me my friend. Not the other way around.

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P.S. nothing is absolute - so the moment you said "always" your statement lost some credibility.

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I hear you. I do both. But I wouldn't underestimate the value of being a good conversationalist which is all about calibration (and, well, being able to talk about stuff). It's worthless at a club or when you are going caveman style, but on one on one dates or at bars conversation actually does get me laid, A LOT.

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Semantics. If I say, I hate rap music, clearly I mean, "With high probability, if I listen to a rap song, I will hate it" That is just annoying to write... Obviously I don't mean 100% of the time.

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IOIs and IODs are important to recognize, but it should be on a subconscious level. I usually end up comparing the game to sports, so here is another one. If I am guarding a point guard in basketball, I may be able to sense his ability to drive to the hoop with his left hand. I don't consciously analyze it though, it's more of an intuition based off of prior experience. Similarly with pick up, you get an intuition as to whether they are interested in you or not.

Who do you think you are?

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Still in this context you are trying to " Defeat " your opponent. I don't mean this is an chauvinist way but women are already "defeated". No extra thinking needs to go into this process for me. I am a man. She is a woman. The feminization of our culture has forced us to relinquish a lot of our power over to women, but when you know who you are this becomes of no issue.

Women aren't your opponents. They aren't to be studied. Just know who they are, and know who you are and this will all become a lot easier. They'll feel it.

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