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Hi guys! Hows it going? I hope your doing great!
I was active in a forum years ago and now Im back and would like to improve a bit more. My weakest part is starting the conversation, once I opened everything is running smothly. So I wonder what suggestions you have for me. I really like the natural mentality and approach of the game, and im also really in to self-development. I've read juggler and swingcat in the past and I loved it, but still im having a really hard time walking up to a random women and start talking to her.
Ive searched around some and it seems that John Alexander, Vin DiCarlo, Brad P or RSD could be something that suits me, but im not sure. Ive also heard about Charisma Arts, Love systems and PUA Training. Im overvelmed. There is so much material out there and its been along time ago since I've read anything about seduction so I'd love to hear your opinions!
Take care, and wish you an amazing weekend!
Books are great. I read at least 2-3 per month, but not PUA or self-help stuff.
If you look carefully, most of the PUA/self-help material out there regurgitates the same stuff. Reading more of the same may not help you improve as much as you'd like in the specific area you requested.
I would consider 2 options:
1. Books NOT related to PUA/self-help stuff can actually help you MORE. Here's why:
Many guys are so amped up on "game" material, yet they have absolutely NO knowledge of anything else and are complete idiots to talk with for more than 3 minutes. Everything they say is a routine and you can clearly see their "agenda".
Instead of reading more self-help stuff, try reading interesting books that stimulate your mind in ways other than PUA and give you things to talk about. (Personally I like books by Malcom Gladwell or Sam Harris). There is nothing more attractive than a guy who has read a book like Blink or Outliers and can hold a conversation about it with me.
You say you have problems with "starting the conversation". Well...PUAs are just going to give you a laundry list of primitive opening lines and ideas. Some may work...some may not. Even our website has a list of 20+ opening lines for different occasions. However, as we always say, these should be used only as crutches when no other organic option is available.
If you are at a Museum looking at the Picasso Black and White exhibit, you are much better off starting a conversation that involves something funny or knowlegable about the painting you are both looking at instead of a canned pickup line.
2. If you want to find a good PUA source, stay away from the ones that are just affiliate marketing scams with similar websites. Credibility is hard to prove, but you can easily spot the ones that are more marketing than substance. In particular, you should look for ones that give you 1-on-1 help -- either through email, SPAM, in-person. Written material can only go so far. To improve in some areas, many people need accountability and/or personal attention that only an individual coach can provide.
Don't fall for the 'boot-camp' scams either. At the ridiculous prices they charge, the PUA is getting much more value than the students. The only way to get proper attention and improvement for that type of money is to do something 1-on-1.
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