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PostPosted: Tue Jun 11, 2013 8:43 am 
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I agree with all of that, except for this one:
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In my experience, even the naughtiest of girls tend to hide that side from their social cliques.
I have quite a number of women in my SC who are literally proud of the fact that they are sluts. Of course, you have to take into account that these are university students, and generally this statement you wrote is true, but all in all not.

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PostPosted: Tue Jun 11, 2013 1:18 pm 
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I agree with all of that, except for this one:
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In my experience, even the naughtiest of girls tend to hide that side from their social cliques.
I have quite a number of women in my SC who are literally proud of the fact that they are sluts. Of course, you have to take into account that these are university students, and generally this statement you wrote is true, but all in all not.

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^ A lot of you guys nip picking on none sense... What you just posted is not the norm. Though is true most girls are now more proud of the fact of being sluts, due to shows like Jersey Shore etc... Is still not really the norm, specially in some demographics and age groups (you just said in college) some sororities girls are known from promoting being sluts, but we are talking in GENERAL.
http://www.theskillsmethod.com/allen-gu ... -the-days/

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ASD is a conscious or unconscious process that women, especially younger women, go through to avoid the perception of being “slutty” or “too easy.” Women will often go out of their way to portray themselves as “nice girls,” even going so far as to proclaim indifference or even aversion to sex, when in fact the opposite is true. AFCs will often take such proclamations at face value, instead of considering the sub-communication. This leads to frustration for both parties.

Examples of ASD include women emphasizing the romantic aspects of a relationship, while downplaying the sex; underestimating the number of sexual partners they’ve had in the past; or making statements like “I don’t usually do this!” to maintain the image that they are good girls.

Before sex, anti-slut defense often manifests as token resistance put up by the woman to demonstrate that they resisted the sexual advances, which helps absolve them of their guilt of sex, which originates mostly from social programming. Post-sex ASD often involves justifications for the sex act: “It just happened,” “he wouldn’t give up,” “I was really drunk,” etc. PUAs should take this tendency of women into consideration, and make sex as easy for her as possible by taking the lead and responsibility for sex, and providing her with convenient excuses for sleeping with them.

Older and more experienced women (such as cougars) are often more comfortable with their sexuality, and less concerned with others’ perception of them. They will put up less of an ASD facade, although most will maintain some pretense for respectability’s sake.

It is important to note that ASD is mostly socially constructed. It is the “social” layer of perception and the consequences of being perceived as slutty. Mystery explains in a rare and now lost video:

“ASD and LMR. Isn’t it funny how we have all these acronyms? And who’s to say what’s the official term? These two words simply refer to two different patterns. ASD is the plausible deniability a woman needs to protect herself. Her social radar. She enjoys sex, but wants to protect herself from social repercussions of her behavior. ASD, is a natural, biological trigger in a woman’s body, designed to protect her from bearing the child of a man who’s not worthy of her.”
Funny scene from Sex and The City where Charlotte has a moment of candidness and breaking

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=pl ... FxYC5vQoF4[/youtube]

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PostPosted: Tue Jun 11, 2013 5:39 pm 
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Warped Mindless is 21-22 he already fucked(350 girls, which is ironic, since he also doubts sexaddict), started at 17. Anyways just do the math guys... And if he did or not is irrelevant, as i said either his advise help you or not. By the way there are similar guys in the community and naturals with similar numbers(of course not in this forum), and no, they are not celebrities.. average of 3 girls a month is not hard to do...
Actually, I'm keeping my fingers crossed with WM after he downplayed the PUA reality of STIs. Many men have a tendency to exaggerate. I have to admit though that WM can explain things simply and focus on the things that are important out on field. Many of the techniques he focused on work on field, that's for sure.

As for the numbers, I've stopped counting after the 100th woman but as the US government notes, if you're laying that many women, you are a high risk STD case. Since WM implies that he hasn't gotten any STIs yet, my guesstimate is that he laid some one or two women. Why is this so? Based on WM's screening strategy and based on the fact that US government health websites have high estimates of as much as 50% herpes of the mouth cases, I think my guesstimate on his lay count is closer to reality. You surely couldn't put a condom on your mouth do you?

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PostPosted: Tue Jul 02, 2013 1:08 pm 
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@Hellhound: your argument is correct, but invalid. I don't think most people consider herpes of the mouth as an STD.

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@Hellhound: your argument is correct, but invalid. I don't think most people consider herpes of the mouth as an STD.
Let's say WM sarged an HB with oral herpes in a bar. WM isolates her in the john and she gives him a blowjob. Will WM get this oral herpes virus on his dick?

Here's the answer from the San Francisco City Clinic: http://www.sfcityclinic.org/stdbasics/herpes.asp

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PostPosted: Wed Jul 03, 2013 1:04 am 
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Why would Sexaddict suggest being polite and avoiding rejection? I've been a rude and cocky asshole and women seem to dig it...

Also, he states he goes mostly for day 2s.

This doesn't seem like good advice to me, but then again perhaps this is his particular style. I myself don't care for being polite or whether I am getting rejected. So will this correspond with the type of women I get?


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PostPosted: Sat Jul 06, 2013 11:18 pm 
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Why would Sexaddict suggest being polite and avoiding rejection? I've been a rude and cocky asshole and women seem to dig it...

Also, he states he goes mostly for day 2s.

This doesn't seem like good advice to me, but then again perhaps this is his particular style. I myself don't care for being polite or whether I am getting rejected. So will this correspond with the type of women I get?

Their is a reason it's called game. When I suggest to always be polite, I am talking about the approach and building comfort stage. Please don't get this confused with the entirety of my game. It is merely a step in the process.

All women have some what of a barrier, some are higher then others, but they all have them. I've found in my experience, the best way to break down the wall is through charm and being a gentleman. I wouldn't even consider this the "game" yet. More so, getting your foot in the door. Once your target is dis-armed you can then apply your game. My personal style after the target is disarmed. Is cocky, funny, and always sexual.

Being sexual alone can also work, if there is enough initial attraction. The thing about being sexual is that it already shows a huge amount of confidence, and gives off a bad boy image. Women love this, especially if they are attracted to you.

As for "rejection" Who wants to get rejected? Does anyone set out to get rejected. Of course you want to avoid rejection. It doesn't mean you should take personal offense when it happen.

When I first wrote my posts, I wasn't very good at articulating my thought process, I am hoping I am much better now.

This forum seems to embrace rejection, and for learning purposes, I can see it's uses. But! this doesn't mean it should be your mindset. There is way to much emphasis on this forum about quick pick up, approaching any woman you want or see without any thought. To me, this isn't seduction, its a numbers game.

A good pick up artist creates a positive experience with any target, regardless if there is attraction or not, regardless if the target is sexually available or not. Regardless if they are being rejected. If you do this right, you will never truly get rejected. In fact, it is the target that will be missing out.

There is so much going on even before you approach a woman, attracting behaviors, sub communications, approach invites, and approach blockers. If you have no skill in observing and locating available women, you're not a pick up artist, your a pick up monkey. ( IMO)

When I speak of avoiding rejection, I am speaking of avoiding the automatic response most women will give "ANY" man that approaches, just out of defense, or the wall, or habit alone.

Pick up isn't that hard, if you follow the rules of human interaction.

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But as you suggest, if women like cocky and confident guys, wouldn't they be attracted to a guy who didn't care about what he said or being polite?

And for rejection, same thing--why would I want to avoid rejection? It's not about trying to get rejected, but I'm not going to try and avoid it. To me it wouldn't even factor in. Or is this what you meant? I understand what you say about "quick pick up," but I feel this forum is the opposite. It seems like people place more emphasis on technique and outer game than actually getting the girl.
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A good pick up artist creates a positive experience with any target
This seems like a subjective opinion. Where is this is requirement for getting laid?


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PostPosted: Sun Jul 07, 2013 7:27 pm 
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You guys really don't get what SexAddict is trying to say. Let me translate it for you...

Avoiding rejection:

This consists of three parts

1) You don't open sets that you KNOW (from screening) will reject you, because it's a waste of time. You open sets that conveyed some approach invitations, but at least did not convey any approach decliners.

2) You have to calibrate. If you fail to calibrate you will be rejected more often than not.

3) Having a nice conversation with someone and leaving without a close but with pride does not count as rejection. It's socializing.

Being a gentleman:

Being a gentleman does not mean you are seeking approval. It just means that you are humble. Polite does not equal needy. It is just non-threathenning. It really works well to get past the bitch shield. Try it out, and get back complaining if and only if you are sure it was being a gentleman that blew you out.

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PostPosted: Sun Jul 07, 2013 9:54 pm 
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A good pick up artist creates a positive experience with any target
This seems like a subjective opinion. Where is this is requirement for getting laid?

It may not be a requirement for getting laid, but if you look at in a "grand scheme of things" prospective, it will help you to get laid. If you create a positive experience in anyone's mind, they will remember you and remember you well.

The idea here is to create an attractive you. The more you can affect people positively, male or female, the more attractive you become. It may not pay instant dividend, but I can assure you it will pay off.

I've had numerous experiences where I had met women that at the time were not sexually or emotionally available for pick up. But by leaving a good impression on them, they remembered me. When chance crossed our paths again, and they were much more available, it wasn't hard at all to seduce them, in fact! a lot of times the woman would initiate.

This is much more relevant in social circles and cliques but not bound to it only. In fact, I've had women that remembered me from years and years ago in entirely different cities. I've had women message me the instant they've become single or sought me out through friends, or social networks, because of the good impression I left on them.

If you are not from a major city, major metropolis and are not a traveling gypsy, there is a good chance half the women you hit on, you will see again, maybe not right away, but you can be certain you will see them again at some point in your life, especially if most of your gaming is in social gatherings. ( even in big cities, it happens)

It's best to always leave a good impression, whether you scored or not.

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I remember reading this dudes post along time ago and some of his post was accurate but this ones not. And i remember this dude saying he spent money on dumb skanky strippers on a date just to get laid...haha Dont be fooled people by the hokie doke, "tricking" money on strippers to get laid that aint mackish homie. I got my 3rd eye on U.

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Sexaddict I trust your story. Anyway what you have written until now (just checked some of the posts) sounds real, I know because I have done it before, and it works really like this.
I appreciate your sight techniques, never used that much, but it really works like this, can see it from the field.
In my case, I started this PUA model from just 3 months, but I have bedded 5 girls, most of them on the second date, so I think I am doing good anyway ;)
Now I have a difficult one, she is a 9, did some wrong moves but I think she's still hooked.
She's asking me to go to clubs, how do you scale in a club date (second date) ? I am asking because I am a terrible dancer and she is a pole dancer (met her in a different context not in a strip bar lol).
I am also asking because my strategy is to avoid clubs in dating.
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Sexaddict I trust your story. Anyway what you have written until now (just checked some of the posts) sounds real, I know because I have done it before, and it works really like this.
I appreciate your sight techniques, never used that much, but it really works like this, can see it from the field.
In my case, I started this PUA model from just 3 months, but I have bedded 5 girls, most of them on the second date, so I think I am doing good anyway ;)
Now I have a difficult one, she is a 9, did some wrong moves but I think she's still hooked.
She's asking me to go to clubs, how do you scale in a club date (second date) ? I am asking because I am a terrible dancer and she is a pole dancer (met her in a different context not in a strip bar lol).
I am also asking because my strategy is to avoid clubs in dating.
Tnx ;)

Ideally, a night club is not the place for a day two. There is too many factors going against you such as loud music, too many drunk people, too crowded and ( especially if your date is hot) other men hitting on her ( even right in front of you). All can cause issues or discomfort for one or both of you.

It would seem she wants to drink and dance, with that in mind, I'd stay away from any larger venues, in fact! if you can find a small lounge type of club, or even something with some class such as a jazz bar, cocktail bar, roof top patio, or even find some live music, it would be much more suitable.

Generally, these type of places have a much more respectable and classier type of patrons, many more couples and you will need not worry as much about men hitting on your date while you are in the washroom. ( even if you're 100% secure and ok with that happening, it's still best to avoid it)

If you are in or close to a big city this should not be a problem finding a good spot. I suggest you make it a dress up date, women love to dress up and look classy. Take her somewhere nice and the thought of a night club will be just a memory.


Don't be afraid to dictate the venue, take control, tell her to wear something sexy and classy ( little black dress, every woman has one) and the rest YOU will take care of. Just be sure it is somewhere cool and that she will love it.


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PostPosted: Mon Jul 15, 2013 10:15 pm 
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^ Agreed 100% with SexAddict. Can't say anymore than that.

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Thank you sexaddict ! :)


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