Dude MM works, and i have nothing against mm, do what works for you. Do not worry about what anybody says.... Do you!. With that being said in My opinion is not EFFICIENT (takes too long to implement). For example a beeper works fine, but i rather use 5 g iphone. There are dudes fucking girl with "nlp" and all that type of shit, do what works for you.

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You are misquoting me.

Fuaarrrkkk!!!!

Keyboard Jockey's aren't real PUA's goddamanit.

Do not confused the keyboard jockeys from the real PUA's.

Your puahate is based on the invalid assumption that a keyboard jockey is a PUA.

I love PUA's.

Scammers aren't legit PUA's. NEVER EVER mis-assiociate the two. They are completely 2 different things.

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skill360 and the rest of his business affiliates are virgin keyboard jockeys. I am not gonna waste my time with scammers.

PUAHATE sucks.

Now I am starting to hate puahate even more.

Yeah, I made attacks on puahate by deleting their facebooks. Hahahha. maybe next will be deleting their puahate's twitter account .

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^ First I am not a guru, I am just sharing what has worked for me. And, yes I am very confrontational/polarizing, now I have tone it down a lot, After I have seen people fighting each other for none sense on other forums. Thanks for the love!

About the other stuff, I still need proof, since is she said, he said. Maybe wm should answer.
^ Exactly, it sucks!

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Word.

Hobbit is one of the only posters on here I would recommend. I wasn't engaging in any flame war, and choose to not post rather than attack/deny other's content, but it was such a surprise to log on here and still see it happening.

The original post itself isn't that bad, its points about value and going for the pull but it seems like you're just posting 2nd wave ideas that only newbies who read The Game will see and be like "WTF MINDBLOWN!" or other people who aren't in the field who'll give you props because they see the internet as their own little pua-world.

Anybody in the field wouldnt really have much use of this.

I get the point of Corny and hobbit, with that being said, this types of arguments are not constructive to the overall goal of the forum which is to get dudes laid or a gf (sexaddict, wm, me, chief etc...), or self development(hobbit, madals, kasabi etc...)

There are 2 schools of seduction: the ones that believe there is no game, and focuses on screening, efficiency and dtfuckness( warped Mindless and all his posts, me etc...)

and the other school that focuses on games, tactics, routines, special behaviors, breaking the algorithm code of women(mystery method and the such).


Wm posts, i don't give a fuck if he exaggerates(unfortunately he does sometimes about silliness BUT ON THE CHAT, not on his posts), that does not make him a kj, and that does not invalidate his posts. His posts has personally improve my efficiency and understand some of the things that i already do on the field, and in some cases have help me with strategy. He also recommended great seduction material and he was spot on for example 60 and mark manson. So i can care less if he arrange a vegas convention and said he was this or that ON THE CHAT. I am a RETARD myself in the chat, so why the fuck am i gonna judge the dude.

So the bottom line, is useless to dismiss his contributions(currently he has the best material on mpua forum), for something that probably happened more than 2 years ago. IN THE FREAKING CHAT... He is 22, he was probably 20 when that shit happened. The dude is still growing. But i will personally think that a newbie or anybody will benefit(i just posted a lay report of a dude that lost the virginity with his help).

Anyways this is useless to derail the post for personal bs. I would rather you guys comment on what do you disagree or agree on the TOPIC, or any of his POSTS. Attach the message not the messenger.

Or better yet hobbit and corny can offer and post theory posts or ways on which people could seduce women, that could help, so we do not have to rely on wm posts.

Again here is the offer i will offer $100 via SPAM, to anybody that can prove that wm is a kj(hobbit just admitted he had a gf on webcam, ugly or not, then he is not a kj). Anyways this is useless high school shit, and this topic will not help anybody get laid or not.

If i did not have a commercial interest i would have left this community a long time ago. And this is not inherit of this forum is every fucking forum, people can just not get along. No wonder why people stop posting.

I will repeat it again, Imo is wm is one of the best posters in the forum, and he is also very consistent with good content (some posters have a couple of good posts, follow by crappy shit). It is the fact, like him or not.

By the way you do not have to like the dude, but that is a fact. I do not like for example sleazy personally, but i have to admit the dude is right on, in a lot, if not most of his content.

Again before continuing with this back and forth, what are we trying to accomplish, discredit a good poster with the content, i have 0 doubt on my mind, will help you get closer to your seductions goals. Or what the fuck are we doing. This is just disappointing.

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The fact that warpless mind has 1389 MENTAL MASTURBATORY POST without any legit videos to back up his claims "Proves Beyond Reasonable Doubt" that he is a keyboard jockey.

The newbies and other virgins who want to get good with women deserve a higher code of quality.

Being PU gurus we're held responsible to a higher standards of conduct.

We must strive to uphold standards above mediocrity.

All you provided are anecdotal testimonials with no video evidence. (grammar a-bit redundant)

No video of you getting sex still means shit.

If you have trouble posting evidence of sex experience then you could at least post some kissing evidence with a lot of High quality women.

Having a wife or a girlfriend does not mean that you are legit, it is something that average people can achieve. Even a supplicating wimpy Nice Guy can get a girlfriend or wife. It is easy. Having a girlfriend or a wife only means that you are CUCKOLD with no ability to get lots of High - Quality women.

If a girl is attracted to you, then she will make it easy. And if a girl is truly, madly, deeply in love with you then she will understand and allow you to have sex with other girls. Being in a relationship is no excuse to avoid providing evidence of sex experience with a lot of other High - Quality women.


where's my 100 dollars now?

stop this keyboard jockeying and "GO grab a video camera and record all the girls you have been having sex. "

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^ really, i read them, i did not see any mental masturbation... Which is nothing more than over complicating, simple shit.
Wtf you are talking about, lol, so you are a pua, where are your infield videos, showing that you are a pua? or your posts with your no mental masturbation posts, oh my bad i just so your post, help me tons, i am sure i am gonna get laid with this: post786766.html#p786766
^ do you know how retarded this sounds. I could go out for 5 years, and tape 2 or 3 nights were i had a good pick up after 1500 fail attempts, then i edit the video in a way that makes me look like a pimp. Or better yet just hire and escort.
^ lol, do you know makeouts do not mean shit, specially in a nightclub, women make out just for making out, does not mean shit.
As oppose of not having a wife and a gf, and fapping right, is better to fap fap fap, like you do, and spend your time in forums, writing none sense...
^ totally agree, but posting video evidence to impress other people is retarded....
I got your 100 dollars down in my pants, come video tape my pipi, so you can jizz already... I got a get back to read your amazing technique:

post786766.html#p786766

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You read all 1389 posts? And they were all mental masturbation? Can I have underlined and highlighted version his manuscript of all his "mental masturbation" or is this a generalization you've made based on your opinion of him? He simplifies shit not complicates shit... Like so many other guys who ask about the perfect open or have an opener work once then think it works 100% of the time.

By your logic several of us are keyboard jockeys.... I refuse to post in field video because I find it to be a violation of privacy and disrespectful... and yes I've had several folks talk shit on me because of it I simply don't care to impress folks on a forum, it's not about that, getting laid is for me not some tools on a forum.... You literally made over 99% of this forum keyboard jockeys with that asinine statement. Of course I get referred to as a kj all the time on here... if that is true to you I'm not going to try to convince you otherwise, your opinion doesn't matter....

None of us consider WM a guru....I am not even saying WM is amazing or anything but he does put out some very good content... Quite a few of his posts are awesome.... Just like the rest of us our consistency isn't always the highest with posts or girls but that is just how it is... No man can get more that 50% of the women he cold approaches! Some of us do quite well due to warm approaches though.

Your thoughts are at best ridiculous....

Skills really said a lot of good shit but I felt obligated to dog pile on this bull shit.

Peace and Love,

Vic

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You a being a hypocrite.

We are teaching our students not to make excuses for any actions or the lack thereof.

You are giving yourself excuses and an indirect self - handicapped to better improve yourself.

If you are scared and if you do not have the balls to risk exposure then pick - up artistry isn't for you. As a pick - up artist, you are required to have the necessary "CONFIDENCE" to risk having your privacy violated and the dangers of your ego being disrecpected.

It is part of the game. No guts, no glory.

Either accept the challenge and rise up to the occassion or cower and hide behind all your silly EXCUSES.

As pick - up artist, it is our "RESPONSIBLITY" to convert challenges into positive opportunities.

Learn to be resourceful and to be proactive and use the feedback to motivate and inspire yourself to do better.

We should be mature, responsible and socially aware enough to realize that making excuses for our failures is not going to get us anywhere.

Of course, I am not perfect, I am still learning but at least I am man enough to admit that I am flawed and I need to become better.

While you people, defensively go into denial and irresponsibly shift the blame to someone who is not actually at fault, or blame circumstances and you are asking to be relieved of your 'personal responsibility' for not having done what you were supposed to do -- that's an 'EXCUSE!!!'

To teach by example, to show through legit videos.

Loser make excuses, winners find solutions.

If you lack the confidence to face ridicule and humiliation of your private life, then find a solution.

"Making excuses for failures is not an Option and especially ain't the solution."

That is unacceptable PUA's. This is very unprofessional of you.

TSK, TSK, TSK. :facepalm:

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Dude, don't take yourself so serious, this is borderline fanatical.... Go out there and have fun, this is not shit to get so worked up about... Forget about all this silly labels.... Hooking up with women is not a big deal... Hooking up with hot women is not a big deal, as long as they are sexually available and there are enough of them in a particular venue. My advise to you, is ignore the dudes you think are not getting you closer to your goal. This is not about saving the children of Africa. This is a bunch of none sense. Picking up women is not rocket science or a difficult challenge. About privacy, some people value privacy, has nothing to do with confidence. For example i do not want my family,martial arts students, biz associates, clients and friends knowing i teach guys how to fuck women in clubs. Is nothing to be proud of. Stop imposing your believes on how people should be on other people. Cool!

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@skills360

Do you understand what is a conditional statement?
Do you know what the word "If" means?

I stated a conditional statement and you made and utterly malicious "incoherent rambling" about night clubs, which I've never mention. Did I say night clubs?

Conditional statements ain't absolute.

Think before you speak @skills360.

You'll only gonna look like a fool.

That is a "false dichotomy", I've never mentioned about fapping. Totally fallacious statement.

what you said is a subjective opinion with no valid logical grounds. All you do is insult me with an ad hominem word "retarded".
I advise you to refrain from bashing or making hate speech. You can express your opinion without slamming others or making derogatory remarks.

Stop whining and complaining about me not dispensing any tactics or techniques, this forum is not exclusively for contributing advice but this forum is also for asking help.


You have PUA products, the burden of providing proof is on you, not me. I provide free information to worthy people.

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skill360 and the rest of his business affiliates are virgin keyboard jockeys. I am not gonna waste my time with scammers.

Don't be a hypocrite, take your own advice.

What you are doing now, is mindlessly spamming and imposing all of your ideas on us.

Think before you speak, it is in the rules. and you are violating it.

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I am gonna go fap...

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