Hey Guys,

So as some of you are aware I am new to this whole Pick Up malarky, and I'm still leaning the basics. So my question at this moment in time is what is the basic structure of a ''Routine''. Also would you mind telling me your own routine structure and how you guys mix it up?

If I'm wrong then please tell me but is the basic structure this:
- Opener
- Build Rapport/Neg Target
- Demonstrate DHV
- Transition and Isolate
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Actually I don't have a single clue and as you can see I'm in need of advice.

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Most here will probably agree that routines are bad. Men who are naturally very successful with women don't use routines, they are just very sexual.

You should ask yourself what problems you are having with women and what you can do to solve them. If your problem is insecurity or not knowing what to say, routines won't fix that. They are only a cover. Solve the underlying problem.

The underlying problem is I have no confidence in approaching women. If there was a structure that exists/could be devised that would explain the basics, would surely be good for someone starting out in this whole ''pick up thing''?

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Yes. I just personally want to warn you against the idea of "routines." A structure is fine, but you must understand the principles. Words are not as important as what is going on behind-the-scenes.

For now, your obvious first goal is to get comfortable with women. Most men recommend "approach drills" for this.

You can read stickies here: social-shyness-anxiety-vf43.html
And there is a program here: http://www.goodlookingloser.com/approac ... y-program/

Overcoming anxiety is the first step, not routines or structure. Once you have anxiety gone, it is really just a matter of holding a conversation and increasing the sexual tension. It sounds hard to believe, but that is because most men are either not aware or not good at sexual tension.

I'm sorry, I never answered your original question. I've been there and I've read Mystery Method and tons of books and tried that stuff. It is inefficient. A good analogy would be that MM is like trying to pogo-stick to work as fast as you can because you believe you will get caught in a traffic jam with a car. When in reality, it's faster to just get a great car and pick the right roads. But you don't have to listen to my inadequate opinions. I strongly suggest taking a look around the forums and seeing what people have posted of their own methods, not asking in this General Forum since you will not get good responses that way typically.

The thing is that you can approach seduction as a lifestyle or a hobby. What you're proposing is to approach it as a knack, while I would suggest to approach it as a lifestyle. If it's a lifestyle, it shouldn't have a sequential routine which you follow.
You can build rapport in your opener, you can DHV in your opener and while building rapport, and you still can be doing it while you're isolating. I understand that it's easier to comprehend things when they're laid out in a pattern, but I am saying that seduction is not a kitchen recipe. It could be if our brains were programmed with a binary language, but they're not- we go through many experiences, not a closed-ended response.

It should just be how you are. You should have social freedom to talk to anybody, be an appealing person to be around, and an interesting person whom others want to hear from.

Since you're asking where to start from, I would follow those links and check them out. If you have any specific questions, or want more steps you can take, just PM me. I'm in a rush right now and will get back to you if you let me know.

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