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PostPosted: Sun Jun 30, 2013 5:58 pm 
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-Been seeing her 1 year...she has had one bf before me and they are YOUNG
-When she sees me she says "I've been horny", "I'm horny", initiates sex often, says "we could have sex here..." ect.
-I spend time on foreplay, she stops me when fingering/oral/even intercourse sometimes and says "I need a break, I don't have the stamina you do" but moans alot during all three
-I tell her to help herself along when having sex, and she uses her hand for like 3 seconds then stops
-Sometimes she gets worked up and moans like crazy high pitched when we are in synch, but no tensing up or tiredness or contractions
-After sex sometimes she says "that felt really good"
-She says come cuddle with me sometimes after sex but isnt all touchy feely all the time or tired
-She bites my arm, stratches my back, and bites me all over during the act
-I thought I might suck at oral so one time I had her sit on me so she could control it. All I did was put my tongue there and lick a little while she moved. She did this for a few seconds, would stop, and eventually said it feels good but she didn't have the stamina.
-She tells me she wants me to finish inside of her
-When she is on top I tell her to do what she wants (though I 99% of the time dominate her) but she still can't get off


What the heck gives here guys? Does this chick not know her body, has she never had an orgasm, or is she in her head? Or do I just suck in bed? Keep in mind I last a long time and she asks me if I'm going to come nearly every time we have sex

It is my understanding that she would not come back for more so often if she wasn't having fun right?


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-Been seeing her 1 year...she has had one bf before me and they are YOUNG
-When she sees me she says "I've been horny", "I'm horny", initiates sex often, says "we could have sex here..." ect.
-I spend time on foreplay, she stops me when fingering/oral/even intercourse sometimes and says "I need a break, I don't have the stamina you do" but moans alot during all three
-I tell her to help herself along when having sex, and she uses her hand for like 3 seconds then stops
-Sometimes she gets worked up and moans like crazy high pitched when we are in synch, but no tensing up or tiredness or contractions
-After sex sometimes she says "that felt really good"
-She says come cuddle with me sometimes after sex but isnt all touchy feely all the time or tired
-She bites my arm, stratches my back, and bites me all over during the act
-I thought I might suck at oral so one time I had her sit on me so she could control it. All I did was put my tongue there and lick a little while she moved. She did this for a few seconds, would stop, and eventually said it feels good but she didn't have the stamina.
-She tells me she wants me to finish inside of her
-When she is on top I tell her to do what she wants (though I 99% of the time dominate her) but she still can't get off


What the heck gives here guys? Does this chick not know her body, has she never had an orgasm, or is she in her head? Or do I just suck in bed? Keep in mind I last a long time and she asks me if I'm going to come nearly every time we have sex

It is my understanding that she would not come back for more so often if she wasn't having fun right?

1. Some girls have overly sensitive clitoris/vagina. (Based on experience)
  • "I spend time on foreplay, she stops me when fingering/oral/even intercourse sometimes and says "I need a break, I don't have the stamina you do" but moans alot during all three."
A technique I often do is force it even though the girl is pushing me away after her first orgasm (clitoral/pc muscle/g-spot/deep spot/cervical).

Girls can have as many as 50 consecutive vaginal orgasms; where each vaginal orgasm is occurring every few seconds or so (Based on several scientific researches and personal experiences).

After forcing the f-marathon (not physically force but continue with the action even faster than before) girls will experience something that they have never experienced before. A girl's entire body quivers or even shakes during very intense multiple orgasms. I think NikAFC has achieved this level already based on his FR/LR.

2. Most girls have experienced clitoral orgasms but majority will never have experienced any vaginal orgasm yet. (Based on several scientific researches.)
  • I tell her to help herself along when having sex, and she uses her hand for like 3 seconds then stops

    -Sometimes she gets worked up and moans like crazy high pitched when we are in synch, but no tensing up or tiredness or contractions

    -After sex sometimes she says "that felt really good"

    -She says come cuddle with me sometimes after sex but isnt all touchy feely all the time or tired

    - Does this chick not know her body, has she never had an orgasm, or is she in her head?
Most likely, she already experienced a clitoral orgasm before BUT she has yet to experience PC muscle orgasms, g-spot orgasms, deep spot orgasms, cervical orgasms, etc. Not all girls have well developed PC muscles. Not all girls have sensitive g-spots. Not all girls have sensitive deep spots. Some girls will find it painful when you pound their cervix but many like it hard and fast in there.

3. The spurting of semen inside a vagina can be very addicting to girls (based on scientific researches) and many girls find this very pleasurable insisting that you shouldn't wear any condoms (based on personal experiences).
  • -She tells me she wants me to finish inside of her
4. Lasting long is just one part of the vaginal orgasm equation. You also need to hit the right, sensitive spots inside. You need to escalate your rhythm and sustain your pumps in fast to very fast mode for a certain period of time. If you cannot sustain a certain speed until she comes, you'll just be pumping her for hours until her pussy runs dry without having one single vaginal orgasm.

Key Points: Duration. Proper Spots. Escalation in Pumping Speed. Sustaining Fast Speed Until Vaginal Orgasm.
  • Keep in mind I last a long time and she asks me if I'm going to come nearly every time we have sex
5. Girls will have sex even though they are not having any orgasms at all.
  • It is my understanding that she would not come back for more so often if she wasn't having fun right?
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PostPosted: Sun Jun 30, 2013 9:25 pm 
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-To me it makes no sense that she doesn't help me with her hand more than a few seconds. I know she masturbates but huh
-Yeah, I vary my speed during intercourse, like start off slow, pump really fast for like 20-30 seconds, go medium, pump fast again, ect
-I've said to her before if she has ever felt like she has to pee during sex and she said yeah, and I've heard that means she was close to coming

I'm still confused as hell.

I didn't even mention: We put a vibrator to her clit a time or two, and she enjoyed it but didn't come from it either... she said it felt good but wanted me...what are the chances another guy has given her an orgasm if this didn't!? And her last relationship was in her teens


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PostPosted: Sun Jun 30, 2013 9:44 pm 
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For vaginal orgasms, learn about the g-spot first. But always remember that NOT all women will have well developed g-spots.

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zJzC9146RVo[/youtube]

Also learn some basic female anatomy, here: http://www.webmd.com/sex-relationships/ ... ive-system

Check out my Kinsey Institute link in this thread: multiple-relationships-feelings-vt164140.html

You should try stimulating her clitoris either with your thumb or with a vibrator while you're pumping her .

Basic rule of thumb is 20 minutes of foreplay and 20 minutes of penetration before she arrives at her first vaginal orgasm. 20 minutes is around 5 to 7 songs playing in the background. If she can have 2-3 clitoral orgasms first before you penetrate her then her vaginal orgasms will arrive at a faster pace.

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PostPosted: Mon Jul 01, 2013 12:55 am 
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OK man, I don't know what you're doing in the bedroom, but try this. Take full control. You might have read sex god method, if not read it. But for this the big part to take away is Dominance. Dominate. I know you said you dominate, but the next time you fuck her, take full control. You make the decisions. If you go in with the intention to give her an orgasm, then give her one, no matter what she says. This in most cases means going down on her and fingering her. Do NOT STOP. No matter what she says. As long as she's enjoying it don't stop. You know it better than she does. If she resists "I want you to cum baby." Fuck it. She seems to have the upper hand over this here, time for you to take over. She wants you to come inside her and you do and she gets her way. Now you get your way. You want her to cum, therefore you won't stop until you make her.

As Hellhound said in his uncanny wisdom, look up the g-spot plus licking her clit at the same time. See if she likes it fast (hint most girls do as Hellhound said, you start pumping fast and keep it up). Keeping it up means for a good few minutes man, not 20-30 seconds.

Hope this helps man. Get her to come next time. You can do it. It'll secure her so make it your mission.


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When she tells you what to do, just do what you know you really should, keep fucking and make her orgasm, even if she tells you to stop, she is testing your masculine energy, you have to be in control of yourself, you do what you know is the higher truth, she will love it.

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PostPosted: Mon Jul 01, 2013 3:44 am 
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Well she says I like to have full control in the bedroom so I definitely dominate enough, but what I will do next time is:

1. Keep licking clit/fingering gspot even if she tries to put her hands on my head or sit up and stop me
2. Fuck her like I usually do but sustain my "fast as I can" thrusts for much longer and don't give in to her are you gonna come line.

Unrelated question guys: She doesn't see me giving in to her "are you gonna come?" as weak does she? I have told her before I love to come inside of her so she knows I too like this and I guess I'm not just giving in


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Make a song playlist brah and play it in the background while you do the deed. When you're fucking it's so easy to confuse the time because 3 minutes feels like 30 minutes.

If you're popping before your 20 minutes is up, desensitize your penis head. No amount of reading Daniel Rose's Sex God will help you if you pop your load in less than 20 minutes. Personally, I think it's stupid slamming the girl on the wall or door to show your dominance when your penis is not banging the right spots inside her vagina.

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P.S.

This may hurt our ego as men a bit brah but "Are you gonna come?" is girlie speake for, "Are you not finish yet? I'm bored. I'm not having fun with your dick."

The best responses are:

1. "Faster. Faster. Faster."

2. "Saraaaap... Saraaaap... Saraaap..." I don't know how to translate this but it's somehow near "delicious". Some Trike Patrol Yankees in the porn business thought that a girl was having multiple orgasms when she was saying, "Aroouch... Ouch... Tama na..." It's funny that many porn studs did not take the time to learn basic female anatomy.

3. "More. More. More."

4. "Don't stop that you fucking asshole. I'm gonna kill you if you took your penis out!"

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Could it be that the sex went on too long though, when she says are you gonna come? She has said to me in the past that I last very long and she doesn't have the energy I do, and she often OVER estimates the time we just were fucking.


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Simple answer here. You just ask her! It seems you like to tell her to do this and that but have you ever just asked her what she likes, what she doesn't like?
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-Been seeing her 1 year...she has had one bf before me and they are YOUNG
-When she sees me she says "I've been horny", "I'm horny", initiates sex often, says "we could have sex here..." ect.
-I spend time on foreplay, she stops me when fingering/oral/even intercourse sometimes and says "I need a break, I don't have the stamina you do" but moans alot during all three
-I tell her to help herself along when having sex, and she uses her hand for like 3 seconds then stops
-Sometimes she gets worked up and moans like crazy high pitched when we are in synch, but no tensing up or tiredness or contractions
-After sex sometimes she says "that felt really good"
-She says come cuddle with me sometimes after sex but isnt all touchy feely all the time or tired
-She bites my arm, stratches my back, and bites me all over during the act
-I thought I might suck at oral so one time I had her sit on me so she could control it. All I did was put my tongue there and lick a little while she moved. She did this for a few seconds, would stop, and eventually said it feels good but she didn't have the stamina.
-She tells me she wants me to finish inside of her
-When she is on top I tell her to do what she wants (though I 99% of the time dominate her) but she still can't get off


What the heck gives here guys? Does this chick not know her body, has she never had an orgasm, or is she in her head? Or do I just suck in bed? Keep in mind I last a long time and she asks me if I'm going to come nearly every time we have sex

It is my understanding that she would not come back for more so often if she wasn't having fun right?

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PostPosted: Tue Jul 02, 2013 10:07 am 
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Could it be that the sex went on too long though, when she says are you gonna come? She has said to me in the past that I last very long and she doesn't have the energy I do, and she often OVER estimates the time we just were fucking.
The question is, "How long was too long?"

Depending on the study, the average guy does foreplay for 12 minutes and 75% of men pop their loads in less than 2 minutes, here: http://www.thefreelibrary.com/Actual+an ... 0123120065

80% of women too with sexual partners are not having any vaginal orgasms at all. Notice that the numbers are not too far apart.

Measure the deed with background music and do your pumps with the different rhythms, and your performance will improve by leaps and bounds.

Keep us posted when you have done the major items in my recommended action plan.

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PostPosted: Wed Jul 03, 2013 11:54 am 
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Your foreplay songs should have beats and rhythms like this:

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-kS8Abp0_Yw[/youtube]

Your penetration playlist should have beats and rhythms like this:

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vIaH35-MLsk[/youtube]

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fplOcHF-CjM[/youtube]

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3VVuMIB2hC0[/youtube]

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w4s6H4ku6ZY[/youtube]

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4m48GqaOz90[/youtube]

Add these songs to your f-marathon playlist and girls will call you 'GOD'. Personally, I also play Highway Star by Deep Purple and Enter Sandman by Metallica. Remember: rhythm, escalation of speed and sustaining speed until the multiple V-Os.

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PostPosted: Wed Jul 03, 2013 4:56 pm 
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I've finally found the link that says 20 minutes foreplay and 20 minutes penetration is the basic rule of thumb to get girls towards vaginal orgasms. For me, personal anecdotes based on personal experiences are okay but if I can back up my figures with credible sources then it's all good for every PUA.

Besides, linking porn clips is not allowed in this forum and it's a criminal offense in my country to be filming fuck fests.

This is from a certified sex therapist and licensed couple therapist, here: http://www.psychologytoday.com/blog/mar ... bout-women
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3. She’ll be coming ‘round (or up) the mountain when she comes.

From a dead start (i.e. weeknight sex), women take about 40 minutes to get to the peak sexually. They take about 20 minutes of very general caressing to change from willing to have sex to wanting to have sex. Then, they take another 20 minutes of genital stimulation to reach orgasm. If you rush her, she’ll conclude it’s not her night and tell you to go ahead. Usually this is unsatisfying to men because they want a responsive partner. Almost every woman I’ve ever talked to thinks she takes too long. Compared to you she takes a very long time.
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lol. I like how you all talk a big game here. 20 minutes of penetration? Most women think 5 minutes is 20 minutes and by a real 20 minutes they will have been begging you to cum 10x already.

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lol. I like how you all talk a big game here. 20 minutes of penetration? Most women think 5 minutes is 20 minutes and by a real 20 minutes they will have been begging you to cum 10x already.
Hit the right spots at the right speeds and a healthy athletic woman can go on and on for several hours. Hit the wrong spots at the wrong speed and many girls will say, "Are you not done yet?" or "Are you gonna come?"

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