GETTING A 2ND DATE WITH THE BARTENDER.



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PostPosted: Wed Jul 03, 2013 4:35 am 
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Let me start of by Thanking you PUA members for helping me land a 1st date with this girl.
For the back story of how I landed a 1st date with the bartender check out:

"DATE WITH THE BARTENDER!" - date-with-the-bartender-vt162621.html

Summary of the First date:

After persistence, keeping my eyes on the prize and not giving up when all else seemed to fail, I managed to land a first date. I keep a mental note of even the simple generic questions i had asked; such as "So where about you live?" As time went on and keeping a mental note of the area she lived in, asked her out to a restaurant within her city/suburb. I told her the place severed Japanese food and had a live Jazz band.
It was easy enough for her to get to and the live music seemed perfect to enjoy but also for any possible awkward silences.
She seemed to really enjoyed to get involved in conversing, asking questions and vice versa. We talk about:
- Past relationships
- Ideal spouses
- Travel
- Jobs
- Goals and Ambitions
- Moment of Flirting (Only a moment)
We had an 8:30pm reservation and stayed until closing. At one point we were the only 2 customers in the restaurant. The band had packed up and gone, all the tables were cleaned but she seemed to be lost in conversation.

I paid for the bill, she insisted to chip in, I refused, she offered to pay for the drinks at most, in which I refused again, in which she replied, "I'll get the next dinner or something". I look back on it now and I didn't make a comment on it. I should of grasped on to the offer. We left the restaurant. As the restaurant was in her area I was able to walk her home which was a couple of blocks away.

The only issue the whole night I believe came down the goodbyes. Leaning in for a kiss I got the head turn and cheek SPAM. I was a bit stunned and was not expecting it. The goodbye seem to really crumble at that point.

I got home and felt the need to at least clean up that disaster with a text saying:

"Had fun tonight getting to know you, finally and glad I did! Hope you enjoyed yourself tonight. It was great you brought that cute smile of your with you, Night!! x"

20min later I got a text saying:
"I had fun too :) And thanks again for dinner. xx"

With a short response like that I feel getting a second date might be more of a challenge. What do you think?

Dating are like Job interviews, once you complete it your ether waiting for that call back or the pain full follow up call to get some closure.

How should I go about landing a 2nd date?!


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PostPosted: Wed Jul 03, 2013 10:16 am 
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Let me start of by Thanking you PUA members for helping me land a 1st date with this girl.
For the back story of how I landed a 1st date with the bartender check out:

"DATE WITH THE BARTENDER!" - date-with-the-bartender-vt162621.html

Summary of the First date:

After persistence, keeping my eyes on the prize and not giving up when all else seemed to fail, I managed to land a first date. I keep a mental note of even the simple generic questions i had asked; such as "So where about you live?" As time went on and keeping a mental note of the area she lived in, asked her out to a restaurant within her city/suburb. I told her the place severed Japanese food and had a live Jazz band.
It was easy enough for her to get to and the live music seemed perfect to enjoy but also for any possible awkward silences.
She seemed to really enjoyed to get involved in conversing, asking questions and vice versa. We talk about:
- Past relationships
- Ideal spouses
- Travel
- Jobs
- Goals and Ambitions
- Moment of Flirting (Only a moment)
We had an 8:30pm reservation and stayed until closing. At one point we were the only 2 customers in the restaurant. The band had packed up and gone, all the tables were cleaned but she seemed to be lost in conversation.

I paid for the bill, she insisted to chip in, I refused, she offered to pay for the drinks at most, in which I refused again, in which she replied, "I'll get the next dinner or something". I look back on it now and I didn't make a comment on it. I should of grasped on to the offer. We left the restaurant. As the restaurant was in her area I was able to walk her home which was a couple of blocks away.

The only issue the whole night I believe came down the goodbyes. Leaning in for a kiss I got the head turn and cheek SPAM. I was a bit stunned and was not expecting it. The goodbye seem to really crumble at that point.

I got home and felt the need to at least clean up that disaster with a text saying:

"Had fun tonight getting to know you, finally and glad I did! Hope you enjoyed yourself tonight. It was great you brought that cute smile of your with you, Night!! x"

20min later I got a text saying:
"I had fun too :) And thanks again for dinner. xx"

With a short response like that I feel getting a second date might be more of a challenge. What do you think?

Dating are like Job interviews, once you complete it your ether waiting for that call back or the pain full follow up call to get some closure.

How should I go about landing a 2nd date?!
Dates are not like job interviews but you made this to be one.

First of all: "she insisted to chip in, I refused, she offered to pay for the drinks at most, in which I refused again" - why the hell did you do this ? If she offers to pay, accept it. Always. Now she thinks that you are trying to buy her affection.

"Leaning in for a kiss I got the head turn and cheek SPAM" How exactly were you leaning in for the kiss ? Did she know you were going to kiss her ? Did you do any touching on the date at all ? Why did you only go in for the kiss at the end ?
My guess here is she assumed that you wanted to give her a kiss on the cheek only as a way to say goodbye.

The last mistake was your text. You shouldn't have texted anything. The problem with it is that the reason you are texting is not genuine. You are texting because you think that it will save anything. It won't.

Mate you are trying too hard not to screw this up. I suggest so relax a bit. Do not contact her for a while now then just simply re-open telling her to come to a second date.

And stop putting her on a pedestal.


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PostPosted: Wed Jul 03, 2013 10:59 am 
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Dates are not like job interviews but you made this to be one.

First of all: "she insisted to chip in, I refused, she offered to pay for the drinks at most, in which I refused again" - why the hell did you do this ? If she offers to pay, accept it. Always. Now she thinks that you are trying to buy her affection.

"Leaning in for a kiss I got the head turn and cheek SPAM" How exactly were you leaning in for the kiss ? Did she know you were going to kiss her ? Did you do any touching on the date at all ? Why did you only go in for the kiss at the end ?
My guess here is she assumed that you wanted to give her a kiss on the cheek only as a way to say goodbye.

The last mistake was your text. You shouldn't have texted anything. The problem with it is that the reason you are texting is not genuine. You are texting because you think that it will save anything. It won't.

Mate you are trying too hard not to screw this up. I suggest so relax a bit. Do not contact her for a while now then just simply re-open telling her to come to a second date.

And stop putting her on a pedestal.
LOL ok ok I get your points "AFCToTheMax" but you seem more effected by the outcome more then I am. You make it seem like the decisions I've made are somewhat pathetic. lol Settle down, no one is disagreeing and I'm sure your good at what you do.

The reasoning to why I picked up the bill on the first date because I believed it was morally right thing to do on a first date. I have girls that I'm friends with and girls do that they do best is talk. I previously heard stories that they were really offend that the guy didn't pick up the bill on the first date. Why is so important for a first date? I wish I knew but it seems to be a factor.

You do make a good point about the kiss which I did considered. Why did I leave the kiss until the end? No sure how I was supposed to do it any other time. We are sitting in a restaurant on opposite ends of the table. Wasn't about to go all wolverine on her ass from the end of the table. Was to busy conversing in conversation to think about the physical during dinner.

You maybe right. Probably need to let the chips just lay where they may and follow up for a 2nd date in a few days? How long is too long though?


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PostPosted: Wed Jul 03, 2013 6:05 pm 
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Just text her ( I prefer calling, but you guys just don't do it anymore

" Hey, I'm going to take you up on that offer for drinks; I know a great spot on (pick a street), what are you doing friday at 8? "

And next time a girl offers two pay twice in one night; just let her pay for it. What has she done to qualify her for a free ride out anyway?

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