http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nuceTz9gZRQ
Not saying mystery is a fraud at all. But look at his pickup. The guy sucks... No confidence, sounds like a dork. He practices what he preaches, but I wouldn't go to him to learn game.
Whether someone is a KJ or not isn't that relevant here. I honestly don't go out/open that often, but if I was spending all my time and energy going out and hitting on girls, I'm sure I wouldn't do much worse than mystery.
A lot of WM's advice is sound (except for the condom part but w/e), and trying to prove credentials/score counts here is an e-peen contest. Someone claiming to have slept with 500 women on the internet has no credibility without proof. Even with proof, it means nothing. Every single person on this forum could sleep with 500 women in a space of maybe 3 years (serious). Go to a crowded bar, throw away your standards, wait for last call, and you have your pick of desperate drunk whales. Repeat nightly. Even after doing that, neither the person's credibility nor advice will be of any use for scoring anyone worth looking at/dating. Personally I'd be a lot more interested in hearing the advice from someone who dated 10 models than someone who scored 1000 bar sluts.
Finally, there are a lot of biases. Some guys might attribute success to their techniques, which might actually suck, when in fact it might just be their looks/confidence/money/status getting them laid, and they're oblivious to it.

^ To be honest imo you are between beginner and intermediate level, but is an opinion we can debate to death, and neither of us will be able to prove that on the internet...
I have kissed about probably 5k girls or more who knows(not slept, we are talking kissing) is very easy to make out with women specially in clubs, i have never had herpes of the mouth we are talking all type of girls, from hb 5 to hb 10. I also go to tons of swingclubs and have gotten mad blowjobs, again nothing. I think you are paranoid, about nothing, wear a condom and you will be fine. With that being said i am with you i hated that post. Also in the future i am planning to write a theory post on why i believe the hotter and higher quality girl is more likely to have an std (coming soon).
^ totally agree, with the notion stds are rare(that is none sense), i had a discussion we him about that and he said stds are treatable and curable as i said(i had an std, and was treated). Now i am fine. He is right on that point, but the being rare is none sense.
I think his view count on that post is one of the lowest compare to the other posts, you are the only one obsessing about it. Having an opinion you disagree with those not that make him a kj...

the definition of kj is someone that gives advise without having field experience... Read his 50+ posts i can hardly see any of those posts were is not something i have experienced on the field. If he is kj, he is the best one there is. If some idiot takes advise blindly in a forum he deserves what is coming to him. But if a newbie ask me who should i follow, i would say wm in a heartbeat... Let me ask you imagine 2 twin newbies, you look at hellhound scientific posts or that dude cornishman(whoever he is) and the other twin looks and acts on wm posts.... I guarantee without a doubt the twin reading wm will get laid triple and faster than the other twin. We can do a scientific experiment on that.


Now can we get back on topic...

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To be honest, I think you are an AFC nice guy who has a tendency to exaggerate things (this isn't something bad, a lot of men are just like you) and has massive approach anxiety and deep seated insecurities.

You have skills though when it comes to seduction dance although it made me cringe that you put your business in your girl's name.

But personal opinions here do not count. This is the MPUA (Master PUA) Forum where guys who want to master pick up arts try to learn different theories, methods, tactics, techniques and experiences from other pick up artists.

Sure, WM's ESP Escalation Model can help more newbies get laid than your mental masturbation debate type of posts but let's put this into the proper perspective. WM's ESP Escalation Model is an abstract of 60YoC.

Nah. I'm nowhere near Master PUA level yet. But I'm working on it.

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okay you are entitle to your opinion i have been vocal of no counting sex and/or anything the number 5k was a number pull out of my ass, but i believe it may be around there going out 2-3 times a weekend for 20+ years i am 38... do the math you are a computer major... kissing is very easy and does not mean anything, it was not a number to BRAG, but to make a point int he context hat i have not gotten any stds through the mouth, you get me???
She hates the fact i do that, is strategically done since she works in a CORPORATE WORLD, with the goal to get her INCOME RETURN, she has no access to any of the bank accts of passwords, dude i am in the financial legal field. So please i know what you are thinking and is not like that, is strategic. I do what i call modern pimp game... And no is no the silly shit your were posting in one of your posts.
^ first label is a bunch of bs, and to get good with women you got a fuck and kiss tons of women, and you are paranoid about that irrelevant crap therefore who is the afc again????
there you go again with the stupid ass mpua label lollolololol, a dude with a website, check out wm posts the esp is one of the many good ones he has... Do you want me to do homework and debunk all the stupid scientific crap aka mental masturbation in your post, starting with the drink one??? I probably do when i get a chance, so i can show you how afc i am...

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Do me a favor will yah.

Spread some Skippy on your corporate cock and let your chihuahua lawyer do her job on some foreclosure defense on your rectal orifice mortgage shit.

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haha! good one, i see you are copying my sexual trolling style... Good job!

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Send me a free copy of your book and some personal tips on seduction dance. In return, I'll make a post every now and then saying your penis is bigger than mine and that you're a Master PUA badass.

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No problem! send me $$$$$$, and i am not master pua.... Thanks god!(i am just regular dude sharing things that work for me)... Anyways just so you know you were right, the number was off, let say 50-100 makeouts a year times 20 years but be 1000-2000 make outs... dude, get back on topic... You are derailing the post. You win!

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Fuck you, you greedy cunt! At least give me a huge discount.

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A lot of questions there.

Yes I would bet. He came on chat one day, back when I'd never tried any of this and used to lurk, and he admitted it or something. All the big posters witnessed it. The posters who fucking made this forum and helped everybody out. He used to post FRs that were impossible and were written as if he had no experience like "Went out and got three blowjobs last night".

You've been tricked 360, everybody was back then too until he slipped up. And its obvious from his posts now he hasn't changed. Its depressing tbh.

k! you got pm

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Resorting to out right lies now? LOL... stay classy!

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If you can link me to a SINGLE FR or LR that says I got 3 BJs in one night, I'll delete my account.

My account is safe.

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Lol.

warpless mind is yet another keyboard jockey.

Your proof of getting sex is through mentally masturbating threads on a forum and answering questions. That is pathetic @warpless mind.

Instead, of keyboard jockying inside a forum, why don't you go out with a camera and record the girls you have been having sex with.

Lmfao at your "proof of being legit" is to keyboard jockey and rehashed old concepts and illegally claim it as your own.

For a mr. know-it- all player like you who has no difficulty in getting girls, I am sure providing evidence of your so called sex experience should be easy. all you provide are anecdotes which mean no shit. You have no in field videos of sex because you are a scamming fraud. And a mental masturbator,


You're a fucking a joke. and wattcha gonna do next boy? Log-in through one of your multiple alternate accounts again?

Prove your legitness just like all the other thousands of pick - up artist who provided videos.

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skill360 and the rest of his business affiliates are virgin keyboard jockeys. I am not gonna waste my time with scammers.

I am warning you warpless mind,

your pua products are infringing on criminal copyright violations and the american federal government.

Do you know what is criminal copyright infringement and how many years in prison a person will be jailed for?

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skill360 and the rest of his business affiliates are virgin keyboard jockeys. I am not gonna waste my time with scammers.