Confidence is NOT enough anymore to attract women.



Users browsing this forum: No registered users and 7 guests
Post new topic Reply to topic   Board index » Get Into The Game: New Forum Members Start Here » PUA Lounge




Author Message
PostPosted: Sun Jun 30, 2013 5:00 am 
Offline
MPUA Forum Addict
User avatar

Joined: Tue Dec 30, 2008 7:56 am
Posts: 227
Website: http://www.themaaximumlife.com
Location: Toronto, Canada
How many times have you heard the same bullshit that all you need in this world or the next is self confidence and all of your dating and sex life problems will be solved?. Well let me tell you something. That is a bunch of BS! Confidence is not enough any more to master yourself, your social environment and your dating and sex life.


The world has changed. There are more douche bags out there, rougher and tougher men, the media has shifted the way a man should be today(Example-The UFC), meaning Alpha, tough, masculine, not just merely confident in speech but weak in persona and attitude. What does this mean? You have to start working out, pack on some muscle, strengthen your inner paradigm, be dominant amongst other men and leader like in social and inter sexual situations.


In other words, you need to exhibit signs of physical and mental "Warrior-like" strength. Women expect this today based on the fact that so many men today are working out, getting leaner, meaner, tougher, stronger and more dominant and they want the King Supreme of this bunch as they always have. Make sense?


Another reason for this is because there is more violence, disease as well as competition for scarce resources in the world today. As a result, women are finding themselves increasingly attracted to men with a superior immunoresponse to disease, which occurs as a result of increased musculature. They are also finding themselves more attracted to men who are strong willed and minded, persistent, dominant, driven, brave and courageous to beat out the fierce competition for scarce resources. Those men that foster these traits and only those that do are labelled as "sex worthy" by the opposite sex. Once again confidence on its own is so yesterdays news!


The Global economic climate is volatile and reaching a state of massive depression. What does this mean? Women now want you to be business, money, wealth minded and savvy so you know how to make money in case things knock you off your rocker financially. In addition Hollywood's display of rich, well spoken, versed and handsome millionaires with that Pierce Brosnan or Daniel Craig type look aren't helping your cause either. They have cornered you into the position of having to be money savvy, worldly and debonair today.


Yet most men still seem to think that simply exhibiting confidence all the while being penniless, broke, uneducated, non-worldly, non-dominant is enough to attract a high quality woman today. Forget about it!


The 9-5 working man is become decreasingly attractive to women. I am not saying that you have to become self -employed but you must become worldly, educated, well spoken and be a subject matter expert in the area of "finances", given your own specific financial situation. Women expect this out of you today.


Women are being influenced by mass media(Reality TV shows more so than anything else and movies) and being conditioned that what is attractive today is a man who is "dominant, leader like, take charge, worldly, debonair, entrepreneurial, professional, upscale, high status".


Some examples include: Magic Mike, 300, Troy, Gladiator, Warrior, Shooter, Entourage, Sex and the City, etc. Do you see how they have raised the bar, big time on what is expected out of a man today to be given a "sex worthy, high status Alpha king" label by women? Good! Let's raise the fuckin' bar on ourselves then.


What's that? Did you say that you don't believe that women want a debonair and dominant man today? Well the book- "50 shades of Grey" is the new Bible for legions of women across the world. Is it based on mere coincidence or is it based on the fact that women identify within themselves a "new" need for a man who is more than just confident, but one who is "dominant and debonair" and a true top feeder? Case closed!


So what do you do now? First, change your thinking and align it with the needs of women today. That's right! You will have to come to terms with the stone cold fact which is this-Women of exceptional beauty and quality today want and expect a Warrior, a dominant alpha King Cobra, coupled with a money and business savvy, honourable, respectful, worldly, educated gentleman all rolled up into one, like a nice fat Monte Cristo Cigar.


Consequently, you will need to become more educated, worldly, muscular, resilient, dominant over other men, a leader in social situations, money savvy, well versed, well spoken and socially intelligent, if you want to and expect to attract a high quality mate today. Times have changed and you must also change with them.


As Denzel Washington said appropriately, to Ethan Hawke in the fabulous movie "Training Day"...


"You are either a sheep or a wolf"


Pick one!!!!!!

_________________
Omar aka McMaax
Maaximum Seduction


Top
   
PostPosted: Sun Jun 30, 2013 9:24 am 
Offline
Dedicated Member

Joined: Wed Nov 16, 2011 12:44 am
Posts: 734
If you're looking for a life partner/wife, then I think you may have a point. If you're looking for fun, a sex buddy or just some casual sex, then I don't agree so much. If a girl wants some casual sex, she isn't going to look for the richest person just because they're rich. She's going to look for the person who gets her turned on the most. You turn a woman on, know how to escalate, get in her pants. Turning a woman on can be done in many ways - just confidence isn't enough all the time, but often it is if you've got some decent social skills already.


Top
   
PostPosted: Sun Jun 30, 2013 9:56 am 
Offline
PUA Forum Leader
User avatar

Joined: Sun Jan 24, 2010 5:46 pm
Posts: 880
Location: Newcastle
Confidence is the bedrock on which you build your foundation upon. If your foundation is inherently unstable (low confidence) then anything you build upon it-no matter how impressive- can come tumbling down around your ears if the girl shakes you with her testing.

Plus; you need to be confident in the first place to even approach :)


Top
   
PostPosted: Sun Jun 30, 2013 1:16 pm 
Offline
Member of MPUA Forum

Joined: Sun Jun 09, 2013 12:02 am
Posts: 138
Yea yea, and there are like 10 men on 1 woman so they an all have the best and most dominant of the lot right? The world may have changed but brains are still more important than the muscles, our brains are what made us a superior species, if you got no brains you must build up muscles to have at the very least something to show, but you can get by on brains too(although not as good as if you had both) if you got neither than sry man, you screwed.


Top
   
PostPosted: Sun Jun 30, 2013 1:51 pm 
Offline
MPUA Forum Addict
User avatar

Joined: Tue Dec 30, 2008 7:56 am
Posts: 227
Website: http://www.themaaximumlife.com
Location: Toronto, Canada
You don't need confidence to act. That is a pussy ass philosophy. You should be able to act in the face of danger, insecurity, fear. I have trained myself to become a Warrior and that is what a warrior does. If you rely on confidence as a precursor to action then what happens if at any instance you don't feel that "utopian level of confidence", you will not approach? lol . If you can act inspite of feeling fearful, nervous, scared, overwhelmed then you have 4 up on most of society. Resilience is far more important and mission critical than confidence.


Secondly, I didn't say you have to be rich to attract and seduce a woman. You have to be "worldly, charming, educated, well versed, etc". If you simply want to lay a frolicking bar ho who will fuck someone else besides you the day after, just go RRRRRRRRRRRR, and flash some muscles and spit out your stupid, childish Coyote Ugly canned game. If you want to spiritually and physically seduce a high quality woman, even just for sex, you gotta raise the bar bigboy. In fact, she won't even PISS on you if you are burning if you are not in the likes of a handsome, masculine, dominant, educated, emotionally intelligent, worldly, well spoken, business savvy male. I know from personal experience.


Also, if your philosophy is "Hey man as long as I get some tail", then you may want to gain more experience with women and such as that desperate, boyish, juvenile attitude is probably what's keeping you from meeting, attracting and seducing the creme de la creme of women out there. I tend to gravitate to the apex of anything I shoot for and so do the women I associate with. I can tell you that most of the women that belong to this cadre want a highly worldly, pan international personality coupled with a savage, Alpha beast all rolled up into one. You can't have one without the other.


I think men need to raise their standards and grow up. Most are stuck with the fratboy mentality of going to the bar and meeting, greeting easy, sleazy, dumb as a doorknob idiot bar chicks. You call that game? lol! Try naturally attracting, intriguing beyond belief and making the jaws and pants drop and eyes/ear pop of a woman who is super intelligent, cultured, beautiful, successful, well travelled, educated, well versed, worldly. That is GAME! Let's raise the bar by raising ourselves above the boyish standards set forth by the preposterous PUA community.

_________________
Omar aka McMaax
Maaximum Seduction


Top
   
PostPosted: Sun Jun 30, 2013 6:59 pm 
Offline
Member of MPUA Forum

Joined: Sat Jan 19, 2013 6:36 pm
Posts: 130
I very much agree with you concerning the targets one should choose. However, when it comes to the traits a man should possess, we're not on the same page. I think a person must have confidence to approach (or to do anything, really), you simply seem to define confidence differently than most people here.
Also, you name many characteristics one should have, but think again: that's just one set out of many. Although being educated should be of paramount importance to everyone, you miss out on possibly THE most important trait: humour. If you cannot make a woman laugh (note that I'm saying laugh, not simle or chuckle), you might not fail immediately, but certainly once you get into conversations that exceed 20 minutes of small talk. Most compliments I get are for my ability to make people laugh, which makes people flock around me. This results in social proof AND in being approached without any effort of your own. I'm aware that there are some people out there that just aren't "the funny type", but I've never understood or got along with those people, so I'm not going to try and convince these people otherwise, I'm sure they have their reasons.


Top
   
PostPosted: Mon Jul 01, 2013 7:00 pm 
Offline
MPUA Forum Addict
User avatar

Joined: Tue Dec 30, 2008 7:56 am
Posts: 227
Website: http://www.themaaximumlife.com
Location: Toronto, Canada
Of course playfulness, being humorous, witty and all are obvious ones but if that's all you are, you have no VALUE to her. Women today want a man who is a bit of a daddy like figure, dominant guide. Trust me.
Why do you think we are seeing an explosion of books like "50 shades of Grey" or "Bared to you". Women want more than haha . They want a real man who can teach, show guide, mentor, otherwise you are dealing with a juvenile female who has low standards and who is moved by muscles, some dumb slapstick humour and a girl like that is exactly that and something I will pass on.


Omar

_________________
Omar aka McMaax
Maaximum Seduction


Top
   
PostPosted: Mon Jul 01, 2013 10:06 pm 
Offline
Member of MPUA Forum

Joined: Sat Jan 19, 2013 6:36 pm
Posts: 130
I didn't say humour is all you need. But without humour, dominance alone will not suffice, and vice versa.


Top
   
PostPosted: Tue Jul 02, 2013 2:34 am 
Offline
Member of MPUA Forum

Joined: Sun Feb 27, 2011 6:37 pm
Posts: 175
Location: Worcester
I'm a big guy, 255 6'2 inches tall, heavyset, big love handles, and balding. I walk into a room and I dominate that room. In 30 minutes of talking with a woman (getting a woman interested to talk for 30 minutes is the challenge, usually takes 5 to 10 approaches), I'll have any woman talking about their sex life, what they like, what they don't like, letting me touch them, play with them, and even on occasionally lick them, and if I hold their attention for 2 hours, I'll sleep with them.

You don't need muscles. You don't need to look great. You need to have Charisma.

Charisma is humor, warmth, presence, confidence, and social dominance. When I enter a room, I think to mysel , "I'm a valuable person that anyone and everyone would and will be honored to get to know. I create that reality and I bring anyone and everyone into that reality.


Top
   
PostPosted: Tue Jul 02, 2013 9:19 am 
Offline
Member of MPUA Forum

Joined: Fri Jul 13, 2012 3:10 pm
Posts: 199
What about putting women on a pedestal and supplicating them for attention.
Becoming that type of guy just to get women?
What have they done to deserve that?

No matter how good you are they'll complain and bitch about you, and whatever you do, if you have a nice body, they'll complain about the time you spend in the gym instead of doing something useful, and not so selfish, if you work 8 hours a day they'll complain about you being a slob and not earning enough money, if you work more they'll complain about not spending enough time with them, if you read in order to learn more and become a more insightful person they'll complain about not putting enough attention to them, if you don't they'll complain about you being boring and predictable.

is it worth to do so much work just for pussy?
We guys are not suppose to be the "wishing well" for women.

That type of competition and mentality is destroying all the resources of this planet, and guess what? is not gaining us any respect through the eyes of women and also is not making them happier.

You want to dominate a room full of guys in order to gain attention of a girl and let her dominate you... Because if you are doing all of these for them it means that you are already being dominated by them. That's a little sick don't you think?


They do not deserve to be treated as goddess, they deserve to be treated as humans, be judged by their actions, be accepted and love with all their flaws and virtues. Finally they are genetically programmed to be attracted to men who are able to provide them that type of human SPAM.


Top
   
PostPosted: Tue Jul 02, 2013 9:27 am 
Offline
High Priest of Debauchery
User avatar

Joined: Mon Mar 05, 2012 2:48 pm
Posts: 3271
Location: Paradise Found
Women are attracted to men with rock hard throbbing cocks. No amount of physical and mental "Warrior-like" strength exhibition can attract a woman and make you sustain a relationship with her if your dick is limp.

Take care of your cock and the women will follow. Everything else is gravy.

:twisted:

_________________
Approach. Open. Escalate. Isolate

Here are my two essential rules on texting that will save you tons of time and money:

general-questions/topic137931.html


Top
   
PostPosted: Tue Jul 02, 2013 3:35 pm 
Offline
MPUA Forum Addict
User avatar

Joined: Tue Dec 30, 2008 7:56 am
Posts: 227
Website: http://www.themaaximumlife.com
Location: Toronto, Canada
That was a good one! Made me laugh. In all seriousness, I live in a city called Toronto and the women here, especially the high quality ones, want 9 things if they are to exclude all other possibilities just as in any other major global metropolis with smoking hot, high quality, educated, intelligent women.


1. Masculinity
2. Dominance
3. You being well versed, well spoken, worldly
4. Educated
5. Emotionally mature
6. Sexually creative, dominant, exciting
7. Well built, spiritually and physically. I train like a UFC fighter. Women any day will prefer a man who is confident with a throbbing dick as you put it, who is well built, healthy minded/bodied than a fat, beta slob.
8. A great sense of humour but intelligent wit, not childish or fratboy stupid humour
9. Ambitious and success driven.


That is the bottom line. In fact not just in my gorgeous metropolis of Toronto, which has the hottest women on the planet a apart from a few other cities. We have loads of chicks from all walks of life, and from other countries-Russia, Poland, Japan, Iran, Portugal, Brazil. Also we have an incredibly educated female population.


Men that say you don't need all those things, don't fuckin' have those traits or are getting easy, sleasy, dumb ass chicks. I have seen it time after time. The best way to show you that what I speak is a truism
is to ( I am not personally challenging you) but generally speaking to anyone is this. Come out with me, let me point out a super high quality woman, with a Harvard education, who is worldly, popular, super intelligent and let's see how much mentioning you have a throbbing cock, a dash of childish Frat boy, cocky funny humour and a Gorilla level of testosterone will make her go for you. It won't. Women today want a FUCKIN" MAN, not a boyMAN!

I also meet scores of women who say that they want a worldly, built, success driven, mature, dominant male.


In fact even from women that are in their 20s. I have had sexual relations with many women 15 years my junior because of all of the traits I posses.


Lastly, wouldn't you want to be a multi faceted male, rather than muscles, high libido, a sense of humour. That is so fucking dry and boring. YAWN. Most guys are that anyways. What separates the Warrior from the Wo-Mans are the James Bond and Gerard Butler in 300 traits of masculinity, charm, being debonair, mature, worldly, well read, educated, successful on all levels, ambitious, highly intelligent, etc


Once again thanks for the throbbing cock minimalistic point. It made me smile!!!!!!!!!!!!

_________________
Omar aka McMaax
Maaximum Seduction


Top
   
PostPosted: Tue Jul 02, 2013 4:55 pm 
Offline
Member of MPUA Forum

Joined: Sat Jan 19, 2013 6:36 pm
Posts: 130
Omar, it seems like you're simply refusing anything other than your own perception of how to attract women. With all due respect, I think you're posing a bit as a guru here... Oh well, if it makes you happy...


Top
   
PostPosted: Tue Jul 02, 2013 6:54 pm 
Offline
King Among Mortals
User avatar

Joined: Tue Oct 18, 2011 8:36 pm
Posts: 7592
Location: United States
It is true, that Confidence alone will not have raised the bar high enough to engage the "type" or 'level" of girl most Men believe they are searching for.

You must also be a warrior and a leader.

If you are not a warrior and a leader, you are not a true man.

Women are wired to be attracted to them.

They see muscular guys as warriors, and guys who are successful as leaders.

So if you only have Confidence, you are one step further up the ladder, confidence gets you in the door, but in serious danger of falling short, with nothing attractive to offer.

But if you are a confidant warrior, you can offer, protection. (and usually a good fucking goes along with that!)

But if you are a CONFIDANT/WARRIOR/LEADER You offer the three most desired features,

1. Boldness - Blind faith you will get the job done.

2. Protection - No harm will come to her under your watchful eye.

3. Provision - No needs will go unmet.

The Man triangle. the path to the forum's most over used word- Alpha.

_________________
They call me the cat whisperer, cause I know exactly what the pussy needs.


Top
   
PostPosted: Tue Jul 02, 2013 9:19 pm 
Offline
The Coach
User avatar

Joined: Sun Jun 19, 2011 7:44 am
Posts: 4170
Location: Chicago, IL
Quote:
1. Boldness - Blind faith you will get the job done.

2. Protection - No harm will come to her under your watchful eye.

3. Provision - No needs will go unmet.

The Man triangle. the path to the forum's most over used word- Alpha.
Exactly.


Top
   
Display posts from previous:  Sort by  
Post new topic  Reply to topic  [ 27 posts ] 

All times are UTC


You cannot post new topics in this forum
You cannot reply to topics in this forum
You cannot edit your posts in this forum
You cannot delete your posts in this forum
You cannot post attachments in this forum

Search for:
Jump to:  

Can we be honest?

We want your email address. Let me send you the best seduction techniques ever devised... because they are really good.
close-link