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PostPosted: Sat Nov 05, 2011 6:35 pm 
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All these rules piss me off to no end. If a girl is not showing interest or returning phone calls and acting like shes playing fucking games with you to get her to chase you, Im not wasting my time or fucking up my emotions for her. A girl should do what she truly feels , not this fake shit

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First off excellent post thank you for sharing. Gentlemen, you should not be angry this is absolutely brilliant. If you are involved with a "Rules Girl" meaning you can tell she is strictly following these rules it makes it that much easier. You essentially have the blue print, as PUA's we can creatively turn the "Rules" upside down. The key is to remain calm and and know that this is essentially a shit test. We then as PUA's creatively use the Rules in our favor:). Besides this gives us more time to date other women on the side.

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PostPosted: Mon Jun 17, 2013 2:16 pm 
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I think this rules are by large useless, why? Because girls that can actually hope to apply any of this rules(except the ones that say don't turn into predator, those are good ones) often have guys friendzoned and that will do all this stuff, in essence they do not need this rules because what they can get(an AFC) they already have.

Now if you want to take a natural(PUA would never play this game) and degrade his inner game to the point that he will turn into an AFC(and ruin him for all the other woman), then go right ahead, in 1 out of 3 cases you may even succeed(if hi is rely into you), but you will go right back to square one because everything that was attractive about this guy will vanish.

Before i got into PUA i used to do what i called "sniping", essentially i would go to the club and screen out all the HB, choose a target, then just sit back and wait(i was often with a friend so there was no rush).

And i would wait from 12pm to about 2am and then i would approach (yes i know this is terribly inefficient now but it was a strategy of a sort). I was never shot down, not once, and you know why? Because in that two hours that girl, no matter how hot has not been approached even once, EVEN ONCE, and she was not about to shoot down an only chance to prevent her evening from being ruined.

Maybe guys are specifically wussy around my parts but the point is chances that an AFC who just went trough all this trouble to beat his approach anxiety is standing on a construction made out of cards and spit, his self esteem will suffer greatly if a girl does not show she is interested right away, and if he does not get some IOI he will most likely withdraw and feel like an idiot, and even worse all the other AFCs around will see it too, maybe, just maybe she will get approached again, but if she gives the next guy the same SPAM, he will go away just like the first guy. She can comfortably go home because there is not a snowballs chance in hell she will be approached again, there are always other targets and the guys who actually have guts to approach will just re target.

This rules, just like MM takes one thing for granted that i found not to be even close to the truth, "hot women get approached a lot". Well maybe 20 years ago they did, but the cold SPAM and Feminism practically emasculated male population today, and using rules on a guy that actually managed to muster some balls will send him right back where he came from. Now ladies ask yourself "is that what i really want"?

EDIT: i forgo one thing, the rules can in fact work if you want to get more guys to buy you shit, if you want to gain suggardaddies then go right ahead, but for any kind of relationship they are more like a guide what not to do.


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This whole THREAD pissed me off something fierce. The book was written in the frickin' 90's, and yes, maybe back then, women wanted nice guys and all that, but this is 2013. Women only care about the assertive assholes now. And whats more, women have it better than men. They don't need those rules because if they are the least bit attractive, men will bow down the them. Men need to know some game because its really hard to get women now-adays.

I'm calling bullshit on the rules. I'm betting only ugly women use them anyway.

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Oh my gosh!

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I wrote a post called "Have you met The Rules yet?" some time ago cause I found this book next to the bed of a girl I had layed (for the second time). She claimed that she stopped reading it after 20 pages, but her behaviour made me question that. By now, we see each other once a every week since two months and always have sex. I believe that how she acts has more to do with her personality then with this book. After all she broke the rules by sleeping with me on the first date already...

Basically it´s pickup for women. Some of the rules are exactly the same as what we PUAs do, some are total BS and utterly counterproductive.

"The most comprehensive guideline for achieving the ultimate goal: Marriage! As soon as possible, to a man you love and who loves you more then you love him" - That´s what it says on the back cover of this book. It´s about turning an alpha-male into a beta. As another poster stated, if you know that a girl is playing by the rules, knowing them and having solid game gives you a huge head start. I remember thinking "challenge accepted" and "oh sweetie I´m so much better at this then you are" when I found this book in her bedroom.

Actually when you meet a girl that is playing by "The Rules", tries to run this kind of game on you, you should feel flattered, cause it means that she´s trying as hard as she can to keep you around. It´s a H-U-G-E IOI!


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I remember thinking "challenge accepted" and "oh sweetie I´m so much better at this then you are" when I found this book in her bedroom.
That made my day. Lol.

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P.S.: I forgot to mention my favourite rule, that the OP failed to mention, which is quite a shame:

"Don´t discuss the rules with your therapist" - not kidding!!!

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How on earth am I meant to not sound needy if I need to call 5 time before I get an answer, I have to pay for everything and have organize a date before Wednesday (hence 5 days in advance)? On top of that if a girl ignores me, doesnt talk, doesnt make eye contact and just acts plain uninterested im probably not going to bother and AFC guys will probably not have enough confidence to do anything.

I think (and this is personal opinion only) that all these rules is make more guys attracted to you (especially AFCs who tend to pick only one girl to be obsessed by) but work quite opposite if you want to actally be mutually attracted to each other.

Why do most women spend all their time telling us that they want a nice, sincere guy that calls all the time, that pays for everything, and that is pretty much a doormat when in actual fact they want to opposite? I think "the game" is good in that it actually appeals to those kinds of guys but turns them into what women are attracted by. Hence a guy who in genuinely nice will grow a spine and get confidence (which is what women actually want) but wont be a jerk to her after they have had sex and is likely to start a nice LTR where both sexes are equal.
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Like Jurupa, said, these rules are pretty old fashioned and have a lot of feminism in it.
No they don't. They're about as repressively anti-Feminist as I can imagine. Reads like the playbook of a serious gold digger, who will repress her persona, desires, and identity in order to win a "good" man. A real Feminist will say you will jolly well respect my armpit hair and treat me as your intellectual equal!
As a male feminist I approve this message. A feminist woman will not expect you to do anything for her that she cannot do for herself. And will most likely not lie or lead you on about her intentions while dating.

Now don't get me wrong, some of these rules are great. The majority however are just unappealing and would cause a woman (of any level of attraction) to get dropped.
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To keep this shorter I'll just highlight the good rules.
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- Let him open the door.
- Be feminine.
- Don't be a loud, knee- slapping, hysterically funny girl.
- Wear black sheer pantyhose and hike up your skirt to entice the opposite sex.
- Don't sound cynical or depressed and tell long-winded stories of all the people who have hurt you or let you down.
- Don't make your prospective husband a savior or therapist. On the contrary, act as if you were born happy.
- Don't tell everything about yourself.
- Say thank you and please.


Rule #1: Be a “Creature Unlike Any Other”.
- Smile (you light up a room)
- Pause in between sentences (you don’t babble on and on out of nervousness)
- Listen (attentively)
- Look (demurely, never stare)
- Breath (slowly)
- Stand (straight)
- Walk (briskly, with your shoulders back)
- Keep moving (don’t stand in a corner waiting for anyone)
If a man approaches you: smile and answer his questions very nicely without saying too much. You’re demure, a bit mysterious. After a few minutes you say, “I think I’ll walk around now”.

Rule #8: Fill Up Your Time before the Date
- If you’re busy all day, you won’t be so needy and empty when he picks you up.
What to do before the date:
1. To relieve anxiety, go to the gym, get a manicure, or take a long hot bubble bath.
2. Buy a new shirt or bottle of perfume. Get a makeover. Treat yourself.
3. Take a nap. A good nap will keep you going.
4. See a movie (comedy, not a romance so love isn’t too much on your mind), read the newspaper or a book.
What not to do before the date:
1. Don’t talk to your girlfriends about the date all day. You really shouldn’t be thinking about the date at all.

Rule #9: How to Act on Dates 1, 2, and 3
- Don’t be too serious, controlling, or wifey
- Don’t mention marriage (even to say that a friend recently got married)
- Be sweet and light
- Laugh at his jokes, but not too hard
- Smile a lot
- Don’t feel obligated to fill up the lulls in the conversation
- End the date first; say “Gee, this was really great, but I’ve got a really big day tomorrow.” Don’t say what it is you’re doing.
- At the end of the first date, you can accept a light peck on the cheek or lips. Don’t invite him up to your apartment. He should only see the lobby. (completely up to you)

Rule #10: How to Act on Dates 4 through Commitment Time
- You can start to show more of yourself; talk about your feelings as long as you don’t get too heavy.
- Exhibit warmth, charm and heart. Express sympathy.
- Look into his eyes, be attentive and a good listener
- Don’t mention the future. Talk about something outside your relationship, like sports, TV shows, movies, novels.
- Don’t tell him he’s the first man to treat you with respect.
- Don’t give him the third degree about his past relationships. It’s none of your business.
- Don’t overwhelm him with your career triumphs; try to let him shine. ( If hes not insecure he'll be happy to hear about your accomplishments )
- When asked a question that is too personal, say “Oh, I’d rather not talk about that right now.”
- Act independent

Rule #11: Always End the Date First
- The first date or two should not last more than 5 hours.
- Glance at your watch and say something like, “Gosh, I really must be going now. I have such a busy day tomorrow.”
- Don’t try to prolong the date by suggest you do something else, or invite him up to your apartment.

Rule #13: Don’t See Him More than Once or Twice a Week
- For the first month or two
- Twice or three times a week during the second month
- Three to four times a week in the third month
- Never more than four to five times a week unless you’re engaged.

Rule #14: No More than Casual Kissing on the First Date
- Don’t invite him up to your apartment
- Don’t let his hands go everywhere
- If he makes you feel you’re being prudish or old fashioned, let him know as nicely as you can that if he doesn’t like it, he can get lost.

( This one is also up to the beholder. Do what you feel COMFORTABLE with )

Rule #15: Don’t Rush into Sex and Other Rules for Intimacy
- Don’t worry if he gets angry. Anger indicated interest. (Um, no anger indicates childishness. If he gets mad you wont sleep with him, next his ass)
- If you’re dating a man for a month or two and don’t plan to sleep with him for a while, let him know.
( If it takes me two months of courting to sleep with you, odds are I'll lose interest. If I can't tell your intentions by the second or third date I move along)

When you do finally have sex:
- Stay emotionally cool. Most women turn men off when they talk too much about it in bed. Wait a good amount of time before you begin holding lengthy seminars about your needs during sex or after sex.
- Don’t make sex difficult or demanding.
- Don’t cling to him if he has to leave that night or the next morning. Be casual and unmoved. Don’t try to keep him there longer by suggesting brunch or coffee.
- Go quietly about your business- brush your hair, teeth, do sit-ups, brew coffee.

Rule #16: Don’t Tell Him What to Do
- Don’t show that you’re jealous or insecure
- Don’t be pushy and suggest meeting his parents or friends if he doesn’t bring it up
- Until he asks for your help, just be there.

Rule #18: Don’t Expect a Man to Change or Try to Change Him

Rule #19: Don’t Open Up Too Fast
- The first date should be short so you don’t say too much.
- The person who talks the most has the most to lose.
- By the first date he should only know a few facts: your name, profession, how many siblings you have, where you grew up, where you went to college, and favorite restaurants. He should not know about your dating history.
- Don’t reprimand him for picking you up thirty minutes late
- Don’t be dramatic about your past.
- Don’t go into long details.
- It’s when and how (always in a calm, nondramatic manner) you tell your darkest secrets, not the secrets themselves that matter.

Rule #20: Be Honest but Mysterious
- If he is over and your friends call, simply say “I can’t talk right now. I’ll call you later”. Don’t tell him who called or why.
- In general, don’t give away information that is not absolutely necessary.
- Never tell him what you’re doing, or why you can’t go out.

Rule #21: Accentuate the Positive and Other Rules for Personal Ads
1. How to Write a Personal Ad
- Make yours no more than four to five lines. Don’t fill it with too much information that no one cares about, and too much lovey-dovey stuff.
- It should contain facts only about height, WEIGHT hair color, religion, sex, and profession.
- Don’t refer to your past (divorced, newly available)
- Men like to be challenged in an ad and like impressing women (“Only men with porches need reply”, etc)

2. How to Answer an Ad
- Keep it light. End the note with something like “Well, I’m off to my aerobics class. Hope to hear from you soon.”

Rule #22: Don’t Live with a Man
- Move in only if you’ve set a wedding date
- Men propose when they’re afraid of losing you

Rule #23: Don’t Date a Married (or Unavailable) Man

Rule #24: Slowly Involve Him in Your Family


Rule #26: Even if You’re Engaged or Married, You Still Need The Rules
- Don’t call him at work so often. When you do, keep it brief and practical.
- Don’t initiate sex, even if you want it badly. Let him be the man, the aggressor in the bedroom. If you bring up sex all the time, you will emasculate him. Be coy.
- Dress better, a little sexier.
- Act Independent. Don’t sit on the couch waiting for him to come home. Don’t bore him with details about your day or your aches and pains. Men love independent women because they leave them alone. They love chasing women who are busy.
- Take up a hobby. You’ll get more attention from him if you’re even busier than he is.

Rule #27: Do The Rules Even when Your Friends and Parents Think It’s Nuts

Rule #28: Take Care of Yourself and Other Rules for Dating in College
1. Don’t look up his schedule and follow him around campus.
2. Don’t hang around his favorite places hoping to spot him.
3. Don’t have your girlfriends talk to his best friend and find out how he feels about you, or become best friends with his fraternity or do favors for anyone he knows.
4. Don’t wear men's clothing.
6. When it comes to habits, be yourself (don't drink just because he does, etc)

Rule #29: Next! And Other Rules for Dealing With Rejection
- Don’t get hung up on men who reject you.
- Don’t call him or send messages.
- Accept it’s over and get on with it- don’t waste time.
- Don’t try to revive a love gone sour.
- Don’t try to find out why he doesn’t love you, or what you could have done better.
- Don’t call him, talk to his friends about it, or try to be buddies.
When things start slowing down:
- Re-read how to behave on the first few dates (#9 and #10)
- Just hang out
- Be patient
- Don’t nag him
- Don’t make anything happen

Rule #30: Be Easy to Live With
- Be kind, considerate and patient.
- Try to overlook his faults
- Don’t open his mail unless it is specifically addressed to both of you. If he doesn’t specifically show you something, or include you in certain things, it’s none of your business.
- Try not to raise your voice or scream too much.
- He should always feel free.
- Always try to show utter contentment with him, yourself, and the world. Be carefree.
- Make time for a healthy love/sex life and spend quality time together.
Rule #21: Accentuate the Positive and Other Rules for Personal Ads
1. How to Write a Personal Ad

- It should contain facts only about height, WEIGHT hair color, religion, sex, and profession.

Funny how she left that out right?

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For the record I'm sorry I didn't make this post super readable. But I got sick of playing with the quote tags.


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PostPosted: Fri Jun 28, 2013 5:45 pm 
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Some rules are reasonable but I would only jump through this many hoops if the girl was literally a super model with the perfect personality.

If the girl was anything but perfect, I would dump her at date 4. So these rules only apply to very hot girls with good personalities. You should put that in your disclaimer.


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Idk... Personally I don't let how attractive a woman is change the way I treat her HB2 or HB10. There is no pedestal it's just you and I.

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Good post OP, I nominate you for the best post award. May you win the 50 dollar amazon gift check.

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