I mean i have just opened 2 or 3 sets. I rejected by myself cause I was nervous but, after reading all
the pua hate stuff around Im kinda dissapointed.

I wanna know if somebody was able to get out from my spot.

I did, its awkward at the beginning that's why i did it and i also do it away from where i leave, so people wouldn't know me for my fails when it happen. I also recommend you that, you'll be more comfortable about it.
Also i have a mate that comes with me, it's more grateful if you have somebody to do stuff with you (you can laugh about it or help each other). Also If you approach women with a friend you are telling them: I'm sociable.

I recommend you to start practice over your friends, your goal is to captivate their attention as much as you can, if you achieve that, you are almost ready for pickup babes.

Best of luck

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Hey bro, do you think Venussian Arts will be enough for now...

I have read a book that is a compilation of Deangelo, Mystery, Swinggcat and other, Im well informed
but im unsure, about day game and stuff.

Sure I practice with a friend, she was my girlfriend for some time but it ended, now im looking to
improve my social skills, I dont want a girl I want to become an atractive person.

NOOO! Don't practice on her! What?!
You want to get her back or you want some ladies on your bed? It's up to you right!?
About theory, mate you need practice! How many classmates you have (or had) that got excellent grades on theory tests and were the shittiest on practice? I knew a lot of them!

So you want to get good grades or a god job? (If you know what i mean!?)
Patrice, don't just read shit! If you read a lot of ebooks and shit you'll get confused in some point of your life because they don't always say the same, they have different perspectives. You have to find out what it works and what doesn't!
Much time you read much time you'll lose! And believe me, much you wait more anxiety starts to take over you! You have to make it happen as you are still fresh and with less fears!

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Thats true, and what about WAPFTW said.

She didn't know I was practicing on her, Im not that new I have like some months since I discovered
this material, well, the thing is that all that PUA HATE stuff demotivated the hell of me.

Right now im reading WEAPONS OF MASS SEDUCTION and The Book Of Pook. Somebody on RSD said
they are good reads, ok but you are right though, I can't spend my whole life reading SHIT, like the
Mario Luna books, his first books were about negging and being the prize, now his books are about
making her feel "special" WTP MAN!

And yes I want her so bad, I seduced her I drove her mad (in a good way) but at the time I was trying to
do so many things I became weird and never had sex with her, thouhg we were on the bed several times but
I was too worried about ASD and LMR that I dind't tried.

After all that shit months of depression... she left me for a... TADA! douche bag, yes yes this history is like
a cliche, but Im laughing now seriously hahaha women are so nanners.

Im trying to rebuild myself from the very basics, but now i found out that I fell in a place where I dont
believe all this PUA thing could be right I dont know maybe to much read about PUA HATING stuff but
nevermind, Im here for womans and for something more, bro Im 20 years and if Im not having sex, or a full
exiting social life... there must be a problem...

Yes i know what you are saying, i've been there, lucky i didn't read pua haters otherwise i would be less confident about myself and i would still be here with no grateful stories on my life.
So don't get yourself into a depression mode, you are better than that! There's always some motherfuckers trying to get us down.

About the sex, you could have made it, but don't worry about it, i had some experience similar to that, but i don't blame on me because i know that i weren't prepared, as i believe you also didn't!

Mate, i started like you, I've read and searched over web for a lot of shit, you know what happened to me? I started to think too much when i were with a girl, i analyzed every single thing on me and on her, even on my own conversation, and you know, you can't socialize and think at the same time, that's why i had some issues at first. So calm down! Don't read shit, take this as a social experiment!

And damn you know all the PUA's terms, please.... please don't read any more things!
If you want to make this more grateful and less theory, download some infield spy cams from PB and watch some youtube videos also about it. I believe that you have all you need to know, you just need to practice!

Also don't get rejections seriously, you'll get that a lot, just take it as: At least i tried.

And don't give a shit to haters, if he were your friend you wouldn't talk to him anymore and that wouldn't affect your life so, screw him...

About the girl, i've answered that to you, then just forget about it. Get another one, you'll see that there's always a better one show her that you don't need her for nothing.

I believe that you can achieve an amazing life if you effort.
Best of luck mate


[EDIT] It has a reason, you wouldn't neg a girl for life! Also take good care about negging! You only can apply it to bitches and you can't do it over and over again. I usually throw 3 negs for a girl, i don't go beyond that! If you neg the girl too much she'll get offended and will hate you. I see negs as a playful insult, but if you do that much, girls will lost the idea that you are playing with them!
So what i mean is, at some point you should make the girl feel special.
Also you can start to make the girl feel special from the beginning, it depends on how you want to do it.

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I really apreciate your responses. At least there is some hope...

I cannot discuss this on his forum, the mods have very strict rules when it comes to talk about many
methods, unlike this forum it seems more open-method.

I was kinda confident when I began on this, even when i haven't understood all of the things I've read.
Because I felt like I had the tools to do this and if something fail well unless I tried right? but after
reading all this PUA hate things and some have very loable arguments againsn't things I believe in.
And I hate that people now cause It took like months to build myself to that point, were I was
able to have fun with people around me and to have fun with girls. I still have pictures from those
days, I really advanced quickly cause I believed that I could, I believed that no matter what my past
was, I was really able to change the future.

But then I felt like being lied to, you know how is for somebody who is is new on something to feel
this way, then you tend to feel even results were fake.

Then I began to blame the books and blame him for the things I didn't understood and ended bad bad.

And the reason Im always talking about neggin is because the history with that special girl I cannot
forget yet, we always had so much fun and first time I kissed her was on the middle of a neg when
she was hitting me I grabbed her and kissed her, and she kissed me back, I admit I was teasing her
for long time ago but even thouhg between every tease there were normal moments of conversation
then more teasing, and everytime I did it she became hot, we were playing like kids, but beneath the
surface we knew there were more than that and she had reasons to be alone with me or to pursue
me cause the reason was she hated me and that she needed to give me a lesson, but after all the fighting
thing we always ended up by kissing the whole night.

I was the price, I was the bad boy, thats why I can't understand this new way of cualification of making
her feel special and unique, and by asking open questions or using subjetive perspective or shit or whateva.

Not even, well sometimes but I always sticked to the C&F way of being, sure I've applied some
Confort, but with little doses of attraction.

Cualification to me was simple, I tease her, she responds or try to argument agains what i said on
a playfull way. And some normal conversation and loveful kino then pull and reset.

But still some things on the new way worked to make her fall in love actually, it was the next step
though.

After the PUA HATE things Ive read I've ended thinking that the books were made on a very evil way
to just confuse me more and not get results, I dont know but after falling on that I began to become
an Average Frustrated Guy.

Points here:

- I don't know why new method works different. The last one worked like a charm so why to change it.

- I can't get out all the PUA HATE stuff of my head, so I can't even test the things cause I already know
they won't work or they just gonna bring me onto troubles or bad situations on or worst things, like having
to buy more stuff or paying for a stupid workshop to understand the goddam book. Man I never needed a
worshop and I dont want to need one in order to have a life.

Thats what they said, they told me to read other Authors, I read them but most of the say...
THE SAME. But on other ways, or not...

Thats the thing, I consider myself a newbie, one that was very brave to try, but for now Im just a coward.

AND I WOULD LIKE TO FORGET HER AND TO START NEW RELATIONSHIPS BUT I DONT HAVE HOW!
I DONT EVEN KNOW IF THE THINGS IM GONNA TRY WILL BE RIGHT THINGS OR IF I WILL BE FOREVER
STUCKED ON A FORUM ASKING.

GOD DANM POISON TOOL I NEVER INDERSTOOD IT, IT FUCK ME UP A LITTLE. But NVM THAT TOOL SUCKS.

All this happened on my house she was one of my sister BFF, she was always visiting us and at the
beginning she was just an experiment, but... IDK how but, I ended falling in love...


You were there.
And it was good on the begining.


And by the way I speak spanish, so sorry If my post has some mistakes.

yes, you've started to do a great inner game and after reading that shit you though about it and you somehow lost your hope, even i felt the same for some moment, i've related my fails to that, but you know what? Screw that, i've already forgot about it! And i'll keep doing it because there's always a goal to achieve (:

Please continue thinking the way you were thinking, if you analyze it you were having success, and it was because you believed on this, so continue if you want to continue having successn! Forget that topic, it wouldn't help you!

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Don't wast money, you don't need to. Those guys only want your money and you not always get results! They are there not to help, otherwise they wouldn't charge so badly for advises right?

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Search for daygametv on youtube, you'll see a guy with his 35~40's (maybe) not good looking but he get results, see in him what you need to recover from your thoughts.
No way you are a coward, you didn't abandon this at first time and you wouldn't! You might not have success but you'll die trying!
Don't let the hate take care of you, let it go, continue your journey, you'll be a successful person!

Also don't read anything for 2~3 days, give time on this, if you read stuff you wouldn't believe in it and it wouldn't help.

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Don't worry about Spanish i speak Portuguese, we might understood each other but i prefer English.

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if i was you i would slow down on all the pua material and start reading some body language improvement books instead, so you learn to seem more confident. its actually quit easy! then after that just go out and practice, dont mind the rejections.. instead see them in a positive way and see it as when ever you get rejected you are moving closer to the best you and that is not a real rejection, THATS IMPROVEMENT! a real rejection is not trying in the first place! you got the potential to get the girls when you overcome the small voices in you head that are afraid... but theres nothing greater than when you find you're on vibe and confidence, true game dosent come from a book, it is self learned... sure you can get places with " mystery method" and all that cocky funny stuff but as mentioned earlier in the thread thats just theory and the best result come when you find YOUR OWN game which suits you and dosent make you nervous and uncomfortable

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Attractive is an energy, good looking is a structure.

Confidence is the most important thing!

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NO, he's reading shit a lot, he shall stop!
Mate practice, don't waste more time reading, for God's sake!
Do it, don't read about it!

GO out and do it, only after that you'll know if you are able or not! But don't quit at the first loss sign!
Best of luck

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Well thx guys.