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PostPosted: Wed Jan 16, 2008 6:19 am 
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Okay I need help fast. Im just starting my second semester of collage and I transfered to a new school. Good news there is no AMOG yet in the classroom that I need to topple. No one seems to know each other and everyone is quiet for now first day of classes. The problem is I need to become tp Alpha of a class filled with people of various age groups. There are seven hbs. i need to grab everyones respect and attention fast and keep it. Also its obvious that once a classroom AMOG is chosen sort of its very hard to topple them because there is so much more people then there is in a five set. Whoever gains the top spot basically can choose the network people have example who meets who. I need to know a way where I can get along with everyone and still maintain an amount of leadership. Bad news if this doesn't work I'll have to spend the next six months proving myself and gaining respect the hard way. If you read Juggler's post on collage networks you'll know where Im coming from. In high school I was really shy at first which sealed my fate for four years. Basically I need help on where to sit, what to say in various situations how to approach in a classroom how to act (class clown or serious). Its not like approaching strangers of where they don't know if your alpha or not the class will know your personality eventually. Any info is greatly appreciated.
This will skyrocket any1s social proof to the point where the hbs are begging for the AMOGs attention

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Ok, folow this guidelines and you`ll be able to become Alpha male in your group:

1) Body language - pay lot attention to body language, chin up, chest out, belly in, take a lot of space when walking, don`t cross your feet to much and too often, when speaking do it loud and clear (don`t confuse it with yelling)

2) Open as many people you can but in a casual, open minded and loose way, say hi to males and females and do it with a smile and eye contact, saying something simple like:" Hi, I am xy, nice meeting you!. Remember, this is not a sarge, but setting Alpha frame. Also don`t act needy, if you cath somebody is in a bad mood, don`t try to open, you can aleays do it next day.

3) You don`t have to be jerk towards geeks and ugs. Be nice to them but not overfriendly cause they might lure you into their circle. But also, don`t even think on making fun of them pissing them off.

4) Open girls like you would when sarging, start with 6.5 - 8. and later spread on below or above rated. Don`t neg at first. You can be little cocky but in class comfort and rapport can do you much more then negs and overcockiness


This should be enough to frame yourself in a class where there is no natural Alpha male besides you.



Key word: BODY LANGUAGE!!

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Nice Marco, I agree with what you said.

Make sure you get a start at socializing with everyone asap. If you decide to wait a few weeks your window of opportunity will close. Each day that passes by its closing. What I mean by this is people will form into there little groups, and it will be harder to win everyone over if you just sat there quietly. From the first day Ideally you want to be the AMOG, and make friend with everyone.


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here is an excellent tip, but its probably too late. if the teacher does one of those BS activities where everyone states their name and something interesting about them, when it gets to your turn, proudly stand up and say your name and DHV somehow. this will get everyones attention and make you look really confident and alpha. usually everyone in the room boringly says their name and some lame thing about themselves, not even thinking to stand up


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PostPosted: Wed Jan 16, 2008 6:37 pm 
Hmmm. Well, first of all, I wouldn't stand up, but that's me. I would see that as too try hard.

The MOST important thing for your goal here is body language, as has already been stated. You HAVE to be comfortable in your own skin. Comfortable with who YOU are. If you're not comfortable with you, NO ONE ELSE will be either. That's where you start.

You can sit in your chair all day long, be comfortable (which will be noticed), NOT be afraid to make eye contact, make jokes WHEN APPROPRIATE, smile, and be confident in yourself. Talk to those around you, let them enjoy your company. Definitely take the intiative in convo's, at least at first. Introduce yourself. Good, firm handshake, but not a death grip. You get the girls giggling, the guys laughing, and the teacher thinking you're an asset . . . and you're pure gold.


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I agree with everybody here. I think it really helps to participate in class discussions. It will show that you are also intelligent. Thats a good DHV too.


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i am a perfect example of what you want to be in classroom situations.

first off, you want to establish that you are the class clown, and not only that, but also that you are interesting, so i am gonna give you a little step-by-step guide to getting where you want to be.

before you get ANY sort of bad rep as the quiet guy, you want to be loud, or not loud, but have people get used to you talking to them, immedietly. and when you meet someone, you don't just say hi, there has to be a reason. for example, when someone is about to sit in a chair, say, "you don't want to sit in that seat... it's haunted." then smirk, and they will surely laugh. but what if they don't? then you just say, "fine, don't laugh, weirdo," and AGAIN smirk. then to establish yourself as the class clown, you have to say 1 funny thing, and people will know that you are the guy to sit next to. let's say for example that someone is moving quickly and he asks, 'wheres the fire?' that is when you respond, "in my pants!" and everyone will laugh histerically. say a few more of these, and people will say your a comedian. however, don't go around saying jokes that you found in a book, they have to all seem spontanious.
sometimes you don't have to establish it with just a joke. i have a pair of really cool glasses that bend, and when i introduced myself last semester i said, " i am .@ç0. $@..@..310, and i can do this with my glasses," already, people knew i was the man.

after that, you have to continue to make jokes... forever. seriously, it is good the first day, but you have to keep doing it, otherwise people will get bored. but what if you are not spontanious? no problem, just watch what funny people in the class do. you don't want to watch stand-up comedians, they are good, but they are not that spontanious. it takes work but you will get used to it. however, you may want to plan some jokes. for example.

some girl stares at you because you said something that offended them.
" that is really creepy, i am not comfertable with you undressing me with your eyes."

some person says something stupid. say in a voice as if you were talking to a baby.
"that is very good, here, have a cookie."

or in a normal voice.

"wow, i didn't know you were one of [/i]those girls."

you get the picture.

well i have to go, but i hope that helps.



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PostPosted: Fri Jan 18, 2008 4:02 am 
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i am a perfect example of what you want to be in classroom situations.

first off, you want to establish that you are the class clown, and not only that, but also that you are interesting, so i am gonna give you a little step-by-step guide to getting where you want to be.

before you get ANY sort of bad rep as the quiet guy, you want to be loud, or not loud, but have people get used to you talking to them, immedietly. and when you meet someone, you don't just say hi, there has to be a reason. for example, when someone is about to sit in a chair, say, "you don't want to sit in that seat... it's haunted." then smirk, and they will surely laugh. but what if they don't? then you just say, "fine, don't laugh, weirdo," and AGAIN smirk. then to establish yourself as the class clown, you have to say 1 funny thing, and people will know that you are the guy to sit next to. let's say for example that someone is moving quickly and he asks, 'wheres the fire?' that is when you respond, "in my pants!" and everyone will laugh histerically. say a few more of these, and people will say your a comedian. however, don't go around saying jokes that you found in a book, they have to all seem spontanious.
sometimes you don't have to establish it with just a joke. i have a pair of really cool glasses that bend, and when i introduced myself last semester i said, " i am .@ç0. $@..@..310, and i can do this with my glasses," already, people knew i was the man.

after that, you have to continue to make jokes... forever. seriously, it is good the first day, but you have to keep doing it, otherwise people will get bored. but what if you are not spontanious? no problem, just watch what funny people in the class do. you don't want to watch stand-up comedians, they are good, but they are not that spontanious. it takes work but you will get used to it. however, you may want to plan some jokes. for example.

some girl stares at you because you said something that offended them.
" that is really creepy, i am not comfertable with you undressing me with your eyes."

some person says something stupid. say in a voice as if you were talking to a baby.
"that is very good, here, have a cookie."

or in a normal voice.

"wow, i didn't know you were one of [/i]those girls."

you get the picture.

well i have to go, but i hope that helps.

While I think it is important to make everybody around you smile consistently, I disagree with some of this advice, in particular the part about 'have a cookie'. If you put yourself up for ridicule by making goofy comments all the time, many people will distance themselves from you in order to not be exposed to that risk of ridicule. Clown isn't necessarily alpha, there's a fine line that you need to be aware of. In my view, acting like a stand-up comic is better than being a goof. At least the stand-up usually has good material. How many goofy jackasses do you know that don't even realize how stupid they sound?

Just be real careful with a strategy like this clown thing if you try it. As someone else stated, confident body language is supremely important. If you have to get defensive because you're a clown, your confident body language may suffer.


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ok, the part about the cookie is GOLD, but it does take a very strong frame to use it, you have to let people know YOU are in charge, and that you rule the world. in other words, it takes balls to say it, and if you fear saying it, don't, cause you don't have the balls to pull it off.

second off, people have never distanced from me because of anything i said, in fact, one girl will bug me if i don't neg her heavily, she doesn't say it, but i know it's true. in fact, a week ago she asked me to walk with her, and i said no, she bowed down and begged me.

however... saying that.

the technique of that will only work on HB 9's and 10's, don't say it to anyone below that.

considering this though, one thing is certain, you have to be able to make the WHOLE class laugh a least a couple of times.

and lastly, no one has even TRIED to attack me, i also have EXCELLENT body language and a studying it excessively right now, and recently purchased a book on it.

trust me, it takes balls to do it. it is like learning how to approach a girl again, this is one of the things i learned before i became a P.U.A. i just walked up to random people and said stupid things. was it stupid? ya, but after about trying a hundred tries or so, i have gotten it down.

so take my advice midas, and grow some balls.


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PostPosted: Fri Jan 18, 2008 6:07 am 
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so take my advice midas, and grow some balls.
Easy there Lucky.

I have to agree, myself, that being the class clown is not necessarily being the alpha. Just because you make people laugh doesn't mean they hang on every word you say. Sometimes it's true, but not all the time.


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sorry about that guys, i was pissed when i wrote that.

my mom gave a very important thing to me away to someone else, actually she gave it to my ex.

class clown is not all it takes to be alpha, but a key part, the main thing is you want to be spontanious and funny.


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throw a party or make a social event and invite everyone, have them connect having a good time and not just studying to you.

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Thanks to everyone for the posts. Im going to turn this into a speech and give props. Body language is probably the most crucial day game is slow compared to night game. The things you do will have much more impact on the moment. Thanks to everyone for their advice heres what I'll use

My checklist
1. Body Language- laid back stomach in chest out walk like your a tank never cross feet (Marco Polo) I make a small smirk on my face at all times barley noticeable to guys but i had 4 approaches about it. (Tripp

2. Become the class matchamker im not talking love connection but introducing one student to another beefs up social value to both persons and whoever else see it. Talk to everyone. Sit in the middle of the room one two or even three rows behing teacher where the center is and awlays have a space open (empty desk nearby) for visitors. Make a few well timed jokes. (Ace, MP, Tripp)

3. Speak up during question awnser part along with know the material help others. (Bedrock)

4. Be the class clown to a certain degree (lucky hilarious cookie) I always was the class clown I guess people accepted it a first but if you keep cracking jokes people begin to lose respect in you. I like to picture myself as Dane Cook hes my fav entertiner/comedian good for cocky funn At least you should have good timing im still figuring out the timing.(Midas) Example I walke into class late
prof: your late what did you do get lost (few chuckels) DLV to me
crash: no I was up late last night hunting penguins (not a dry seat in the room) DHV showed I didnt care what the teacher said.
(DTM) I took the advice stood up said my name.
prof: your not on the list
crash: check the updated list (while she has her back turned I whisper) what is she a bouncer (she heard me)

5. Always do somthing to catch a persons attention at least every ten minute even if its a yawn or a sigh other people use these oppertunities to open you

6. THROW A PARTY id luv too but my budget is super tight. (eagle)

These are the things I put together and They already started to work I got seven number closes so far and I only approached twice strong alpha frame is the best. An hb 8 was waiting for me outside the door for five minuetes because she wanted to talk with me so bad. I was trying to make myself scarce oh well. Also poeple are already starting to attack me im honored but I quickly put them down with an oh your cool Thanks everyone for the posts

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Sounds good. Glad we could help.


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