PART 1 - Buying Her a Drink: Theories and Applications

Buying her a drink or not is a lame debate topic that just goes on and on at the General Section since I've signed up at the MPUAForum a year ago. A lot of people post non-field tested personal opinions saying what's on their mind based on their philosophies in life or limited personal life experiences.

The experienced PUAs post field tested advice on how to help the noobs ensure that their dicks will get inside warm, wet pussies but these advices usually get drowned out in the jungle of individual personal philosophies on what the noobs believe the situation should be.

Another problem is that while the experienced PUAs are posting good field tested advice, most of them suck at explaining why you're killing your chances for the f-close, when should buying her a drink will actually lead to the f-close and why timing and the right vibes are crucial.

Meanwhile, the commercial KJs post theories that look good on paper (or digital form) but actually don't work well or don't work out at all infield.

What's the goal of this thread? Penis in the Vagina

Why penis in the vagina? Because you'll perform better in your career or at school when your dick is fully satisfied.

Theory No. 1: Typical Courtship Process

Researchers Freund and Blanchard observed several human interactions, made a hypothesis based on this observation, tested the hypothesis in a controlled environment and created a theory based on the results of the study. This is not something some guy thought about while beating his dick to a picture of Jessica Alba sun bathing at the beach (damn, she's hot).

It's called typical for the simple reason that this is what usually happens. In short, your odds of penis in the vagina is higher if you just followed what is normally happening out there. If you do the opposite, you'll either get blown off or thrown in jail because doing the opposite is a courtship disorder.

Phase 1: Women Look For and Appraise Potential Sexual Partners

In night game in a club, when a set of women just got in, you'll notice 2 or 3 women will be sweeping their gaze around the place. Some of their looks will stay longer on one guy while they would just pass over their eyes on most guys. The guy that a girl looks longer on is her type.

In a mall during day game, when a set of women are walking around, you'll notice that one or two will be looking longer than usual at a guy face to face when walking in opposite directions. When a girl looks down and looks back up at the guy again and then smiles, then that guy is her type.

AFC Move 1: The AFC buys several drinks at the bar and then brings over the drinks to the set that just came in and says his opener. The girls look puzzled with nonverbal signals saying, "Who is this guy? Do any one of you know him?"

Result: The AFC shit tested himself out of the f-close. Why? Not even one girl looked at him once for more than 5 seconds before he approached.

AFC Move 2: The AFC tries to walk near the new set fidgeting here and there and mumbling his opener several times as if talking to himself. Then he says, "Can I buy you girls a drink?"

Result: The AFC shit tested himself out of the f-close. Why? Aside from displaying unattractive body language that says, "I'm an effeminate man," not even one girl looked at him once for more than 5 seconds before he approached.

AFC Move 3: The AFC notices the girl glancing at him so he walks to the girl and confidently says, "Hi." She looks down and looks back up again. She gives him the eye fuck for some 10 seconds or so. The AFC says his routines, blah, blah, blah, blah and then the girl gives him a shit test. "Hey Sweetie. Can you get some soda for me?" The AFC buys her a drink.

Result: The girl shit tested the AFC and he failed big time. Why? The girl liked his looks but she feels she can walk all over him. In short, the AFC is an effeminate man.

AFC Move 4: The AFC notices the girl glancing at him so he walks to the girl and confidently says, "Hi." She looks down and looks back up again. She gives him the eye fuck for some 10 seconds or so. The AFC says his routines, blah, blah, blah, blah and then the AFC says, "I'll get you a drink. What do you want?" The AFC leaves the table to get her a drink and when he comes back another guy is already sarging her. She takes her drink and ignores the AFC.

Result: The AFC tried to bribe his way towards the f-close and failed. Why? The girl liked his looks but she felt like a slut or prostitute with his move.

Phase 2: Women's Pre-Tactile Interaction with Selected Potential Sexual Partners

Before any touching takes place, the woman will be smiling and talking to the guy that is her type. Most of this interaction will be nonverbal because the girl will be baiting the guy to brag about (qualify) himself. Women will usually talk less even though they are very talkative so the guy will reveal as much information as possible that the woman can use to reject the guy.

Some of the most common qualification questions that girls throw around on field (for the guys that are their type) are:

• 1. What's your job?
  2. Are you married?
  3. Do you have a girlfriend?
  4. Do you have a car?
  5. Do you have your own place?
  6. What university did you go to?
  7. How much is your salary?

At this stage, when you pass all of the qualifiers that women throw around by not answering any of those questions directly or by coming up with funny or teasing answers, girls will give you a minor form of the 'Buy me a drink' shit test just to make sure that you really are a guy that they cannot walk all over on.

It usually goes something like this: "I'm so thirsty."

AFC Move 1: The AFC says, "Wait here. I'll get you a drink." The girl reaches out for her purse in the motion of getting some loose change. The AFC notices this and says, "Don't worry. I'll pay."

Result: If the guy passed the 'Buy me a drink' shit test in Phase 1 but fails the Phase 2 "Buy me a drink" shit test, then the girl unconsciously feels safe and comfortable that she hasn't chosen this wrong guy to have sex with. Guy is revealed as an AFC with the shit test and fails.

AFC Move 2: The AFC says, "So what drink do you prefer?" and then runs excitedly to get the girl a drink without waiting for the girl to go through the motions of looking for some loose change in her purse.

Result: The AFC now packaged himself as an errand boy who will do anything for the girl. The girl will probably keep him around so the guy will do her assignments, mow the lawn in her parent's house, or get condoms for her fuck marathon with her boyfriend.

Points to Ponder. The biggest AFC move at this stage is that instead of the girl asking the guy qualifiers, the guy is asking the girl the qualifiers. This sends the signal that the guy is very interested in the girl. The girl will then test up to what extent will the guy move heaven and earth for her. This test almost always starts with 'Buy me a drink' which moves to bigger and bigger compliance tests like "Buy me a car" or "Buy me a puppy" or "Buy me a Teddy Bear."

Some of the subtler forms of these girlie compliance tests will go something like:

• 1. "I really love Justin Bieber and he'll have a concert this Friday at the MOA..." She then waits to see your reaction if you'll offer to buy her the tickets. However, if she gives you this girlie routine in Phase 4, she is actually trying to help you f-close her. If she gives you this girlie routine before Phase 3, then it is a compliance test; no more, no less.
  
  2. "My mom had a car accident... Sob... She's okay but she scratched the paint job... Sob..." "Isn't the car insured?" "Sob... No... That's the problem... Sob..." She then goes through the motions of heavy melodramatic crying...

In the end, the pussified AFC will probably have gotten all his properties and businesses named after the girl leaving his finances hanging thinly on flatulence while the AFC feels macho that this hot girl is giving her a mercy fuck at most once a year.

A mirrored form of qualification is when both the girl and guy are throwing the qualifiers back and forth. The mirrored form of qualification borders on the friendzone but this is better than the one sided form where the guy is asking all of the qualifiers.

To be continued...

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PART 2

Theory No. 1: Typical Courtship Process

Phase 3: Women's Tactile Interaction with Potential Sexual Partners

The idea that men are the aggressors in seduction is a myth that guys who are poor at reading body language contend. In fact, it's the other way around. Several scientific studies (including the researchers for the typical courtship phase/courtship disorder hypothesis) indicate it's women who initiate seduction; not men.

In Phase 3, the girl initiates touching the guy he is attracted with.

This touch is usually the play punch or tap to a guy's arm. More sexually aggressive women will start touching the guy in more erotic parts through erotic ways like brushing her breasts or nipples at a guy's elbow, pinching his belly, or rubbing his chest.

If a guy fails to reciprocate or escalate a woman's initial touch, then the typically courtship process stops at this phase and fails to progress towards the f-close.

• (a) An equitable touch goes something like this: when the guy says something (even though it is not funny but the girl is sexually attracted to the guy), the girl raises her palm to bait the guy for a high five so they both touch each other at the same time.
  
  (b) A reciprocal or mirroring touch goes something like this: when the guy says something (even though it is not funny but the girl is sexually attracted to the guy), the girl hits his arm while giggling. In return, the guy play punches the girl back.
  
  (c) A sexually escalated touch goes something like this: the girl hits the guy's arm for something he said and then the guy touches her at the small of her back or touches her hair. If the girl likes the guy's touch by not pulling away at some small distance, she pinches his belly or touches some body part closer to the cock area.

Best Case Scenario: Sexually Escalated Touch Buy Me a Drink Shit Test

When the girl goes along with the sexual escalation by giving you back sexually escalated touches, she then drops the "Buy me a drink" shit test.

AFC Move 1: The AFC refuses to buy her a drink since the AFC thinks that the shit test frames him in the Provider Frame rather than the Lover Frame.

Result: The AFC shit tested himself out of the f-close. Why? The girl is giving him the hint that she wants to be isolated for the f-close but the AFC failed to read the signs. The AFC thinks he is being manipulated into a compliance test.

Hint: Offer her a 'great' wine that you're keeping at your place instead of buying her a drink. Once you're already banging her, then you're already in the Lover Frame. You can shoot down any "Buy me a drink" shit test later on after the f-close and then give her the compliance tests yourself like: "Oh shit. I think I dropped my money at the nightclub. The landlord is going to collect rent this afternoon." Then wait if she's going to 'lend' you some.

If she goes through the push-pull stage by not agreeing to sampling your 'great' wine at your place, you can soften the f-close technique through an isolation bounce with something like, "Okay. Let's grab some Jinro at the 7-11 then."

Escalate with your eyefuck and proximity routines while you keep your hands to yourself. When you notice that she's escalating the kino by touching you here and there or she's rubbing her breast and nipples to your elbow, you can either mirror her touches or bring your body as close as possible to hers. The ideal is when she isn't pulling back even though you're already rubbing your dick by her ass or rubbing your elbow by her nipples.

You can also bait for a triangular gaze and go for a k-close.

After an isolation bounce to a different location such as 7-11, or the beach, or the back of a church, or a cemetery, or a park, attempt another isolation bounce to your place with something like, "Let's watch Akon dry humping the pastor's daughter." or some other verbal routine that works for you.

Routines can be verbal, nonverbal, or both. Nonverbal routines are best.

Reciprocal Kino Buy Me a Drink Shit Test

The girl is kino escalating the guy's reciprocal touch, like say, when she hits his arm, the guy hits her arm back. After awhile, she grabs his hand to look at his ring (peacock item). The guy should escalate the kino by returning the touch; rub her hand and intertwine your fingers with her fingers.

After some kino escalation, the girl drops the "Buy me a drink" shit test.

AFC Move 2: The AFC does a cocky and funny tease and comes up with, "No. You buy me a drink."

Result: The AFC starts to prolong the f-close with a push-pull technique even though the girl wanted the f-close already. After awhile, the girl loses interest and goes for another guy. The AFC fails to f-close. Why? The girl is already dancing the Salsa but the AFC wanted to dance the Breakdance to showcase his pick up skills. This is just lame but it happens. The girl already wanted his dick in her pussy but the guy unfortunately is so enamored with his pick up techniques, he failed to see the signs and calibrate properly. Thus, he sarged himself out of the f-close.

Equitable Touch Buy Me a Drink Shit Test

The equitable touch is usually an indicator that you're in the friendzone even though she is attracted to your good looks, hot body, or sharp wit. But this is not bad. You can use the sarge to social proof yourself with other girls or sexually escalate some other, more opportune time. If you're in this situation, the girl will give you the "Buy me a drink" shit test but will offer to go Dutch or even pay for your drink.

AFC Move 3: The AFC insists on paying for everything.

Result: The AFC is already in the friendzone and yet fails to get maximum mileage from the situation and kills the attraction some more. He fails to f-close and fails to make use of social proof as well. Why? The girl sees you as equals, meaning, you're not dominant or masculine enough for her, or, you're very masculine but she's not in her peak ovulation period yet so there's a very slim chance she'll get horny with you.

Hint: This is the situation where some PUA techniques like C&F, Negging, propinquity and sexting can work towards the f-close. Women undergo peak ovulation for some 5 to 6 days. This is the time when they are most horny and prefer the bad boy masculine type. During the rest of the 28-day ovulation cycle, women prefer the not too masculine, nice guy types. You can ride out the ovulation cycle phase and sexually escalate aggressively during her peak ovulation days to get your penis in her vagina.

In the meantime, it's okay to play the nice guy but save your penis for the cum-filled, vaginal juices-soaked, rainy day. Get busy and sarge other girls.

Points to Ponder: Girls who go to nightclubs are mostly ovulating women, those who are not having vaginal orgasms with their husbands or boyfriends, or have some libido related medical condition. Hence, the f-closes in these venues can be easier than other venues. However, the STD risks in banging these girls can be very high.

Unlike in a nightclub where most girls are ovulating, it's hard to tell which girls are horny at the moment (ovulating women, women who are not having vaginal orgasms, women with libido-related medical conditions) in university canteens, hospital canteens, malls or offices. However, you'll have lesser risks of STI and you are most likely to f-close lover-provider types of women in these locations.

Frame women as lovers and providers and that "Buy me a drink" shit test will not matter that much.

To be continued...

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PART 3

Theory No. 1: Typical Courtship Process

Phase 4: Sexual Intercourse

The fourth stage in Freund's and Blanchard's normal human courtship process is sexual intercourse or the f-close. While women typically initiate the courtship process from phase 1 to 3, men as long as they are not blown out of the courtship cycle yet, are expected to bring the interaction towards the f-close.

In seduction, women are doing most of the job until it's time for the man to do his job at this stage.

It doesn't really matter when you offer a woman a drink when you have already successfully isolated her in your place. It isn't a shit test either when she says, "Do you have some iced tea in your fridge?" or after the f-marathon she says, "I'm so thirsty." However, you'll need to be very careful that you are not positioning yourself in an emasculated frame.

The Masculine Frame

At this stage in the courtship process, all that a man has to do is to keep his masculine frame when a woman goes through the, "Buy/Get me a drink" line.

When she says anything similar to: "Do you have some iced tea in your fridge?" this is a perfect opportunity to measure your bedroom skill by giving the girl a compliance test.

You can bait her with something like: "It's in the pitcher Sweetie. Grab me a beer will yah and then get your ass back here." Start with small compliance tests and build from there. The key is to get her comfortable obeying your requests starting with small things and then moving forward to bigger things.

After the f-close when the girl is giving you the compliance ladder tests instead of you giving it to her, take a very careful note that you are betatizing yourself into never, never land.

When your girl says, "Do you have some iced tea in your fridge?", listen and listen well: DO NOT get her the fucking iced tea. Let her get you something from the fridge instead.

LIMITS and BOUNDS

Before anyone gets confused and ask: "What's the scientific theory and what are the PUA applications?" the science is simply this:

• The Typical Courtship Process
  
  Phase 1: Women Look For and Appraise Potential Sexual Partners
  Phase 2: Women's Pre-Tactile Interaction with Selected Potential Sexual Partners
  Phase 3: Women's Tactile Interaction with Potential Sexual Partners
  Phase 4: Sexual Intercourse

Since I can no longer find the link to Freund's and Blanchard's work that specifically says, women initiate phase 1 up to phase 3, I'll provide links to other respected and well cited studies saying that, here:

http://evolution.anthro.univie.ac.at/in ... erfink.pdf

http://www.maryannefisher.com/ethology/grammer.pdf

http://www.journals.elsevierhealth.com/ ... 0/abstract

The rest of the material that you've read are the PUA applications. You might also wonder; so who the fuck is the AFC who made all of those wrong moves? Are those sample AFC moves theoretical?

Well, those are my real life fucking AFC mistakes in my dozens upon dozens of sarges.

Next theory for discussion is Propinquity Spending and Its Applications in Pick Up.

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