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PostPosted: Tue Jun 11, 2013 4:49 am 
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I often hear from a lot of people that most who start PUA will never really make it or finish it. A lot of the AFCs will go back to being AFCs and some will even reside on PUAHate where they will try to actively sabotage others trying to better themselves.

Why is that the case?

Why won't most guys make it in PUA (in terms of getting a better dating life, more success with women, etc.)

Many who try to become professional athletes in major sports often fail. Many AFCs fail to achieve the ideal "pick up artist" whereby he can get almost any girl. This is a numbers game and if you are comfortable with your level or degree of improvement, then you did succeed in your own eyes but maybe not the communities' eyes. Succes could be as simple as being a virgin initially and then being able to pick up a different chick once every other week week or just improving your girls count. However, there are many puas who read this and other sites without ever posting or joining the community. Would you consider them puas still? I would as they are using the same theories as I do. Many succeed who don't get involved in the community just by being exposed and reading some entries, blogs or books. I want to point out that many of the more experienced puas often graduate away from the pua community as they become comfortable with their lives and pull to chill ratio. Thus, most users of the forum are newbies and show frustration about their progress, which overshadows the success of many other puas out there that are silent due to so many youngsters clamoring on the boards. Perhaps posting infrequently, with purpose and in the right discussion forum can help many young AFCs along their path as they seek the right answers to worthy questions. PUA is theories, tactics and techniques. Choose one or all three but there are many paths to travel to get to the same end goal. The experienced puas arent even bothering responding to some bullshit on the forum because they can spend their time better, chasing tail, hittin the gym or just having fun with the bros. The one biggest advice I would give young puas and afcs, shut the hell up, read and absorb information and test it yourself in the field and learn not by discussing a few interactions with two cute girls on the forum but with the newbie challenge and to continue to keep 'sarging' tons of girls, and getting some fuck buddies of course ;) rather than continuously be on the forum and be a nuisance.

Let me know if this makes sense, kinda in a philosophical mood. Just my two cents, to all my PuaEnt friends.

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I often hear from a lot of people that most who start PUA will never really make it or finish it. A lot of the AFCs will go back to being AFCs and some will even reside on PUAHate where they will try to actively sabotage others trying to better themselves.

Why is that the case?

Why won't most guys make it in PUA (in terms of getting a better dating life, more success with women, etc.)

Many who try to become professional athletes in major sports often fail. Many AFCs fail to achieve the ideal "pick up artist" whereby he can get almost any girl. This is a numbers game and if you are comfortable with your level or degree of improvement, then you did succeed in your own eyes but maybe not the communities' eyes. Succes could be as simple as being a virgin initially and then being able to pick up a different chick once every other week week or just improving your girls count. However, there are many puas who read this and other sites without ever posting or joining the community. Would you consider them puas still? I would as they are using the same theories as I do. Many succeed who don't get involved in the community just by being exposed and reading some entries, blogs or books. I want to point out that many of the more experienced puas often graduate away from the pua community as they become comfortable with their lives and pull to chill ratio. Thus, most users of the forum are newbies and show frustration about their progress, which overshadows the success of many other puas out there that are silent due to so many youngsters clamoring on the boards. Perhaps posting infrequently, with purpose and in the right discussion forum can help many young AFCs along their path as they seek the right answers to worthy questions. PUA is theories, tactics and techniques. Choose one or all three but there are many paths to travel to get to the same end goal. The experienced puas arent even bothering responding to some bullshit on the forum because they can spend their time better, chasing tail, hittin the gym or just having fun with the bros. The one biggest advice I would give young puas and afcs, shut the hell up, read and absorb information and test it yourself in the field and learn not by discussing a few interactions with two cute girls on the forum but with the newbie challenge and to continue to keep 'sarging' tons of girls, and getting some fuck buddies of course ;) rather than continuously be on the forum and be a nuisance.

Let me know if this makes sense, kinda in a philosophical mood. Just my two cents, to all my PuaEnt friends.

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PostPosted: Tue Jun 18, 2013 4:11 am 
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The reason why so many of you fail is because girls can see right through you and you're not behaving naturally but forcing out cheesy/sexual lines that would make a nun cringe.


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PostPosted: Tue Jun 18, 2013 7:45 am 
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The reason why so many of you fail is because girls can see right through you and you're not behaving naturally but forcing out cheesy/sexual lines that would make a nun cringe.
also one of the reason why peeple 'fail' with girls is because the girls are incredibly sexually repressed...theres no way to describe how much unadventurous, shy and insecure most of them are...

the other day i was on the lake with a buddy and we got to talk with this old muslim dude and he told us that his wife never ever had orgasm while they were having sex for 30 years of their life together and giving birth to 3 of his children...

pua always want to take responsibility on themselves and that is fine and mature but i find it helpful to remind my students that 90% girls are shy, insecure, fearfull perfectionists not worth it...and they are the main reason for sex lacking from the most people lives...

next time you see that hb 10 across the street remind yourself that she may never get to experience an orgasm ever in her life...she may be like a 7 footer who perhaps look like a pro basketball player but will never be one...

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PostPosted: Tue Jun 18, 2013 1:18 pm 
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I think why most of the people fail is that they are simply lazy. They want a quick fix, which doesn't work and don't put any effort to get better.


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PostPosted: Tue Jun 18, 2013 4:41 pm 
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I think why most of the people fail is that they are simply lazy. They want a quick fix, which doesn't work and don't put any effort to get better.
hmm this sounds very true and generaly speaking it is the case however wouldnt you agree that some people who dont make it as pua have achieved things that are far more complicated and require more work and/or effort?

thus perhaps it would be more precise to say that after some time spent on it they concluded that its not what they really want...considering effort or time it takes...

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PostPosted: Thu Jun 20, 2013 12:49 am 
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I think a lot of it is guys getting frustrated that their first few approaches don't work out. then if and when they get their first few dates, they usually don't work out. Then they want to quit, or in most cases set up on the internet and settle for something way below what they could have gotten.


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PostPosted: Thu Jun 20, 2013 6:32 pm 
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I think a lot of it is guys getting frustrated that their first few approaches don't work out. then if and when they get their first few dates, they usually don't work out. Then they want to quit, or in most cases set up on the internet and settle for something way below what they could have gotten.

yeah so tru ..this is actualy true of almost everything and anything...

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A lot of mental masturbation going on in here.


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PostPosted: Fri Jun 21, 2013 12:04 am 
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probably a lot of guys could make it to reach their goals of having the type of sex life they desire or at least improving their current situation, but they don't because there are tons of insecurities and a lack of discipline that is required to change that holds them back from even getting started to begin with

the average joe blow could learn how to cold approach, he could start going out to turn socializing with strangers into a regular hobby for him, plenty of guys find out about cold approach and like the idea of getting laid but never actually get too far into it because they would have to put themselves out there and feel judged at some point, that could make them uncomfortable so they just don't do it or put it off until ''I'll do it tomorrow'' becomes never, in fact, many guys get into many new things and don't commit to those things or manage to make them a habit, pua is not unique in this aspect, habits are hard to form and hard to break

the other thing is not every guy really wants to be a pickup artist, or some guys think they want to be a pickup artist cause it is what they think they want or it feeds into their ego and need for validation in order to give them a sense of false security, but then once they actually start applying cold approach to their lives and see some results they realize casual sex with random women is not their main priority, and after a while of facing judgement from others they might realize that it doesn't really matter if someone thinks you have fucked 1000 girls or 100 or 10, no matter what the number is a person's personal opinion towards you will always be subjective, no matter what sort of assets you think you have there will always be people all over the spectrum that have positive or negative opinions of you based off things that are completely random and arbitrary

on top of that, for the most part people tend to be more concerned with themselves and their own insecurities then focused on the shortcomings of others, it is almost meaningless to seek security from others when the vast majority are already insecure and it brings little to no value to your life, making your decisions to please or impress others to fit in at the expense of your own quality of life can lead to a very empty unrewarding existence, especially when you realize all the people you thought were judging you that you were trying to find acceptance from, were just looking to not be judged and accepted by you in the first place

there are some men that also join the community out of desperation because they are just lonely and want someone in their lives, these guys often find the path to self improvement if they actually start to cold approach, since cold approach can make you realize that to improve your results you actually have to make an effort to improve yourself, once they actually start improving they may become huge players or they may not but on the way to reaching their goals, they just might find something they are truly passionate about whether that is women or floating across the world in a hot air balloon who knows where life's adventures can take you

in the long run though, the path to bettering yourself and your quality of life is very rewarding one, especially overcoming social phobia, regardless of if you would like that to lead you to endless nights of partying and sex with strangers, or meaningful relationships with others, the path to improving your own standard of living can change who you are and what your life is like, but for change to occur, you have to actually make a change and that starts with what is going on right now, change doesn't happen tomorrow or next week, change happens day to day and people have to make commitments to make that happen, and that can be a tough one cause it's not very comfortable doing something new for most especially if that means interrupting something that is routine and comfortable


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PostPosted: Fri Jun 21, 2013 4:18 am 
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very good observation pumpington....

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i was just out in the field and in such moments my insight is very sharp and clear...REJECTION SUCKS and you can not be pua if you dont learn how to love and face rejection...

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A lot of people who get into PUA don't even want to be that dude who pickup a new chick every week. When I got into this game I was a virgin who hadn't even kissed a girl. I literally got my first kiss BECAUSE of learning game, otherwise who knows what would have become of me. Maybe that is also why I owe my fucking life to the game. But I have already found many successes here, I have become so much more successful than I was before the game. You really have to know what your true GOAL is, who you ultimately want to become and what you want to do and then strive towards that, and if you are not reaching it, it is probably because you are either not focused, not motivated enough, have the wrong roadmap, or have inner conflicts that have to be resolved before you can achieve true success. What do I want out of this? I want a long-term girlfriend out of this, who will stick with me through thick and thin. I have almost achieved this a few times, but of course these little successes came out of big failures.

Some people do not want it badly enough. To get good at this, especially if you're a hardcore newbie like I was, you have to put in serious time and effort, think about it everyday, do something multiple times a week, you treat this like a sport, but also like a hobby, since you're getting closer to what you want, which is your motivation. A lot of people see failures in the beginning and then eject, because they think that this shit doesn't work, when in fact it would work JUST BECAUSE OF THAT, if you have the knowledge and you go out and fail, you can then use your knowledge to understand why you failed and thus improve. Many people just don't have the inspiration to stick with it. A lot of people who become good have gone through the shit, and a lto of the times people get into this when they're really really down. I know I was, because I failed massively with this one girl which propelled me into this. And then again many people do NOT experience this and get into the game because hey, this seems cool. These are the people who will not make it. The ones who don't have a NEED to get good at it, those who don't owe their fucking lives to the skills and the personality change that the game gives you, the enlightenment. Unfortunately many times you have to truly be at your lowest point in order to finally realize something has to be done, and for those people, once they're in they're in for life. And these are the people who will become successful at getting their GOAL, which again, might not necessarily be pulling a new girl a week.


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