I'm very outgoing and fun loving. When I game I come in with a lot of energy. I'm the guy that is laughing, dancing around, and getting people into the party. I tend to attract the same type of girls.

What works on shy girls? I can tell they are interested, but they are too shy to play along. Anything
Short of me throwing myself on them doesn't seem to get things movie in the right direction. What are some good pointers? These girls are usual 18-20.

point out they are shy
qualify them by saying you're also shy (it doesn't have to be true)
because they feel qualified, talk to them like you would any other girl

What if they already know I am really fun, out going, and social. The lie will be incredibly obvious.

women are emotional creatures, truth and lie is part of logic and as men we are programmed to think logically...hence your response.

same logic applies to LMR when a chick says no to sex. You say "okay" and then you carry on escalating and then bam! you're in. As long as a chick *feels* right, anything and everything will happen.

When she feels awkward or out of place, then you won't get anywhere with her, hence your shy girls just don't respond the way you want them to. change their MOOD not their MIND, and what better way to change a shy girls mood by being understanding and accepting

I hear ya. I'm having a clique of girls over tonight. I friends with one them, the fun out going one. I figure I could isolate one of the shy ones and do as you suggest. Tone things down, and say I'm usually shy around people I haven't met before (most of the people at the party are friends) get her to open up and then escalate. Thoughts?

groups are different, you want to establish social value. just be the outgoing person you are around the group.

what i said works when you see a girl off in the corner and you do a approach because you're basically letting her qualify herself to you by being nice to her.

if there are shy chicks in the group, it's best to ignore them as much as they ignore you because it'll just make things more awkward if you try to engage them in a group conversation. focus on the alpha chick, although you should sometimes tease her by paying attention to another chick.

I'm the person that gets the group going whether its chicken in the pool or beer pong. Last time I engaged all the girls in conversation, and touching/being physical with all of them. The girls respond well when I qualify them individually. I would lead and they would follow. I feel that they like me but are too inexperienced to know how to respond to the situation. Since I am hosting a kick back at my place, swimming, hookah, beer pong, drinks, etc. all the girls will be a little more loose tonight.

I suppose the plan is to be physically dominant, really touchy from the start, and come in with high energy. Banter and qualify, after a few good responses isolate. Then come on strong physically. Its my place, my party, my friends. In addition I am the most alpha in the group. The way I see it is very little risk for a good chance of reward.

Thoughts?

dont bother with the shy ones, nothing bud headache.