I had a very interesting yet strong conversation with my mate well should I say disagreement about this, he works out himself and has a personal trainer etc.
He was trying to tell me that you wont get the nice looking girls unless you are all muscly and built up like he is, and that its all about looks.
I said yes guys who are more built up are more happier with themselves and come across more confident naturally so would get the girls, but you don't have to be a good looking built guy to get nice girls.
Its not always about looks, if you are a confident guy who knows how to play the game then you will still get the same results even if you are not the best looking.

I don't class myself as ugly but I am very slim and average height so it would take me years to get a good build anyway, plus I don't have a big appetite like he does.
Why work on something like that which could take you 5-10 years when you can pick up your confidence and women in 5-10 days.
What is other peoples thoughts on this? I just feel you should be able to be yourself and confident without changing yourself too much and still get the same result.

You don't need to be built and fit to get girls, but it certainly helps. Mystery is a skinny ass mother fucker.

Also, it's wrong to assume it would take you 5-10 years. If you work hard enough, and have the right diet, you can see a good difference in a few months. You don't need a big appetite either... You just need to eat frequently to keep your metabolism going. Besides that, working out is good for your mental health.

Yeah I know that was just really a figure it feels like that sometimes, I work out myself from home with equipment I have but I havn't really kept at it for long enough to get to a considered fit level or actual figure.
Perhaps I should join a gym, I used to be really fit and do a lot of things in the outdoors but one of my aims when I have more money is to purchase a mountain bike.

I'm 'fit' and 'built' beyond what most people consider to be for and built (natural, not Roided out to the point of looking like a monkey in a suit). Will looking like a Greek statue score you women without any effort? No. Are women typically attracted to such physiques? Yes, although primarily in western cultur as not everyone has the same ideal as to what is attractive and what is not. That said body types qchangr in or dived level of attractiveness sometimes within generations. For example several yeas ago more muscular, larger physuques were 'in' whereas now slimmer toned types seem to be more preferred. Of course there always variability within these stereotyped preferences.

I know of guys who have very nice builds who are socially inept or have low confidence and still struggle attracting women. That said having an attractive body certainly doesn't hurt your chances at attracting a more attractive mate.

Of all forms of physical peacocking, by far the best, is a lean muscular build. I have been told by several girls who are good friends (old FBs that live in other states now) that I'm getting "too big" at my current size (ironically i was pretty flattered, since I've dropped %BF and gained a lot of lean mass since the last time they fucked me). That said, they still want to hook up.
Point being, even if girls claims you're "too muscular", they'll still rail you at the drop of a hat if you're able to turn them on. Unless you're on the gear (anabolics), it's pretty much impossible to become too muscular for women's tastes.
Here's the catch. Being really built works WONDERS for social proof. Other guys treat you with a lot more respect, and AMOGs tend to try to befriend you instead of ignoring you. Douchebags and assholes become a non-issue (I have never been insulted by a man at a bar or a club, in my entire life). When women see other high value men treating you with respect, it immediately draws them to you. As gay as it sounds, past a certain point, your muscles will start to impress guys more than girls, and when girls see you impressing other guys, they'll be attracted to you. Finally, if you are dating a girl, being large (but level headed. None of that roid rage bs) makes you an appealing "protector", and girls love it.
Finally, your attitude toward fitness is flawed. I have trained almost every day for the past 7 years, and it works wonders for my health, self esteem, and emotional well being. My life is full of stress. Grad school, work, relationships, etc. The gym is the one place I can escape to any time of day and focus on something other than all the shit making my life a pain in the ass, and to feel good about something real (as opposed to escaping through video games or movies). So even when your relationships are shit, work sucks, and school is overwhelming, having a consistent fitness routine maintains an element of stability in your life even when everything else seems to be disordered. Your fitness is the one thing you have almost full control over, and you can do anything a human body is capable of, given dedication and time. That's really not the case in many aspects of life. At the same time, being physically fit and healthy is hugely important, at least as important as any other major part of your life, and the stability you find in a fitness routine helps put you back on your feet and bring the other things in your life back in to order.
If getting built fast is all you care about, and you're not worried about health consequences, there are shortcuts. You could put on about 30 pounds of muscle in less than 4 months with some major dedication, the right diet, and a little help from mr. Dbol and Mrs. Winstrol. I strongly advise against it though, since steroids fuck your heart up permanently, and beat the shit out of your liver/kidneys.
If you eat right, supplement right (creatine+whey) and lift 4 days a week, you could look quite fit in just a year though.

You are looking for an excuse why not to work out because you are lazy.

Will working out get you more girls ? Yes

Will you get confidence in 5-10 days ? No

ZMBCM1, everything you said is golden. In addition, you will meet some good looking girls by consistently going to the gym.

It definitely helps, and if you are consistent, lift heavy, and eat right, you can get a body that most girls will consider hot in as little as six months depending on genetics, and a year and half pretty much no matter who you are if you are in your teens, 20s, or 30s. To answer your question, both of you are kind of right. Being really good looking with a great body makes it easy to get girls with just that and no other game whatosever, but you can still get hot girls without that.

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