Hey guys, for about the past couple weeks I have been keeping track of my stats. I have been tallying the number of phone numbers versus the number of approaches I attempt.



I figure this is the most efficient way to measure my improvement.


My question to those who do this, and are successful, is how many approaches does it take to see substantial improvement?

How many approaches a week do you guys do on average? And out of those, how many numbers are you reeling in per week?

hmm its nice and useful that you are doing that not sure though if the measure is correct...however for practical purposes it wil do...although the learning curve is not always linear....that is, when doing new things you exeperience the spurts of progress followed by periods of stagnation or even regression...no matter what you do..sometimes the greater the effort the weaker the results...cause the nervous system need pauses and energy and rest for the new learnings to integrate into nervous system...but generaly speaking it is very meticulous and disciplined of you if you track everthing you do and measure results...but bear in mind that the results are not absolute measure....sometimes you get points when you get NO for an answer...i remember a cousin of my best friend falling in love with me just hearing how courageous and relentless i was when approaching the girls and being rejected over and over again... so basically 10-20 NO's was converted into 1 YES

also bear in mind that distribution of sucessful closes imho is not linear...sometimes when you are in the state you can get 5 numbers out of 10 approaches and sometimes if you are out of the state you get 0 numbers out of 20 approaches...

ther are too many factors to account for its not black and white....the other thing is that keeping the track record can increase your results however it can make them worse because you now play for a specific outcome(ie number) and not girl or even the experience...so you may get better results and lower quality of life... or you may get bad results cause you are outcome dependent and that stiffles you sucking fun out of you and decreasing your attractiveness...

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It's not really about numbers at all. I approach very little. But I do go for what I want. If you were to approach 100 women and say "Hi, how are you?" and I was to walk up to only one and say "I'm an elephant!!!". You might get way, way more numbers but really you're still sitting there tallying up numbers while I'm having the time of my life with one. How did I get to the point where I can walk up to women and say nearly anything? I approached hundreds of women and said "Hi how are you". But the goal is NOT the numbers. Not lays either but that's a better tally keeper than #'s. You could say I never approach. I engage everyone. I have social intelligence and intuition.