So I met this awesome girl about a year ago. We had connected on fb through something which I forgot but it took like another year to meet. She was 28 busy working 3 jobs to pay for school. I thought we connected really well on a short coffee date and she kept on commenting how much we had in common.

A week or so later we went to see this dnace show and I took her to this dinner ( it was way to fancy but it was based on a suggestion from a friend who described it a little differently). After dinner we walked there was some joking kino since we are both fighters but touching sure. At dinner she had mentioned when we talked about dating that since she is from europe she didn't like the whole pressured feeling of kissing and it takes her a while to get to know someone. After dinner we walked like 30 blocks talking, joking some kino, and for some weird reason I grabbed her hand like I was in third grade. She didn't say no though. At one point in the conversation we were talking about dating and she said she had only met one person of my background but they ended up just being friends. Later my insecurities maybe thought she was giving me a hint. Anyways went in the for kiss later after sitting close outside in an intimate setting but she was ready or something.

A week later I asked her to hang out and and after being a little unresponsive she said she said sure as friends. I responded by "well right now I have plenty of friends but I wish the best". she said thanks you too.

At the time I may have texted her a little too much every couple days or so. Anyways I was bummed about the situation. I know in pua and most girls I meet you have to kiss right away but some people from other cultures move slower and would prefer not to get burned.

Anyways so I moved on. Not a single more text message. I forgot to remove her from facebook and about 3 months later occasionally she would like my statuses. It's strange in this digital age to still be connected with someone you only went out with a couple times but i'm ok with that. About a couple months later after one of these likes I sent her a short message hoping that everything was ok with her after a hurricane we had. A couple months later the same stuff happened. She would like my stuff or sometimes comment and then a couple weeks later I would send her a short message and catch up. Then about a month ago we had a real sort of fb conversation. I said why don't we get coffee sometime. She said sure.

I said no pressure whenever you are free. I asked her if she still had my number and she gave me hers. I waited about 10 days and texted her and with her school she was busy but we made tentative plans for the weekend. I cancelled on since I had something else going on, and well nowadays I don't wanna do shit I don't wanna do so that day I wanted to rest. The following week I asked her if she wanted to hang out the next week and she said she can only do weekends. I said how about sunday and she said she might go the beach, so I told her ok no problem don't cancel you plans we can meet another time. She said well this or this but really was saying it wasn't a plan. I then asked her to go to the zoo since I know she likes animals. She said sure but suggested some botanical gardens but I expressed that I'd rather see some tiger than a tulip.

Now I'm not obsessed with this chick or anything and am writing this long story cause I'm hungover after meeting chicks last night and can't sleep cause its too hot. I thought I'd ask the crew out there for some advice.

At one point I was asking her about some martial arts class she takes cause I wanted to do it. She mentioned when I asked the cost she said she got a discount by dating someone there. I'm not sure if thats current but I can't imagine committing to chilling . Seems like she is interested to meet. I hope I didn't screw myself up by committing to a whole day date from what was supposed to be a short coffee. Do I pay since I invited her or make her go dutch?

Also I've seen two schools of though on the previously friendzoned stuff. One is to be charming and cool and try to do all the kino stuff again. That almost seems like doing the same stuff from the beginning as before and might possibly get there same result. The 2nd is to to be charming and cool but not pay her that attention to mess with her so you're not as available and make her want you. But then again I don't wanna just act like friends and get the same result as friends.

So if you got some advice I'd appreciate it

Sorry mate, it seams that you become her best buddy.

No girl say to a guy that she likes that she dated other guys for x stuff (in this case a discount).
It passed more than 1 year, so i may say that if she was into you, she lost interest.

Yep, we only give interest to things that were good and we lost or never achieved.
Move on, there's always another girl.

But this time try not to make the thinks as they become, i was like you, your story reminds me of me before, now that i read and do pua stuff it's more easy and i never get stuck in that again.

Sorry mate, don't go after her. Get your pride back!

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Oh and by the way, my experience tells me that you can't use this pua stuff on girls that you already know, and why? Because you have to act different to them, they'll notice the difference and they going to ask you questions about it. Also you are not going to be more relaxed and more interesting.
I tried that on a girl that i know for a long time, can't do shit. But i did it to all my new class mates (girls) and it's just great, they don't know my personality so it doesn't bother to them if i kino or if i say crazy stuff, because they are learning how i'am, and what am i? A fucking shy guy for default that acts like a confident guy.

Also neg it's a good technique, but has rules:
- Don't apply it to cute girls! Only apply it to bitches!
- When the girl shows interest on you, you should stop doing negs, show some interest too.

All this stuff you can find your self over internet, wish you best of luck! And avoid that girl! You did your best mate, it just didn't work! You'll find your self a new girl, a better one!

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This seems to be the biggest issue with guys who get confident enough to approach open and the rest of the yadda yadda. They get so thrilled with the fact that they are getting the results they've been trying for that they over do it. It's like someone who says something funny and gets a laugh.... then proceeds to continue with it until every one hates him.

We've all been there and we've all seen it. Just have to learn to know when you're going too far.

True! I know i girl that hates me because of that, i overly neg her and she pissed out!...

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