I'm still in high school, but here's an approach I ended up using a few nights ago, and I got stuck in one place. Hopefully, you guys will help me out. This girl is slightly above me in the high school popularity ladder/whatever you want to call it.

This was about prom.
At this point, I was like "OH SHIT!"

I'm thinking this is some type of test, and the best way to diffuse it was through something like "I don't help non-friends find people to fuck."

Anyway, what do you think of my (ex post facto) response, and where do you guys think I screwed up?

I don't even know where to start lol

Feel free to rip it apart. It's a valuable learning experience.

Ok number one. Screw up is only in your head. You only screw up if you think you screwed up. Yesteray night i went out picking up some girls solo no wingman. One girl told me to get away, at first I was like 'what did i do wrong'. But after a while I just figured in my head that there is something wrong with this girl and not me. She's weird and it was funny to me. I know 5 months ago I would think about what this girl said for 10 hrs and think it's my fault.

It seems from the conversation you were trying too hard to make the girl like you. The best way to pick up a girl to be authentic, say what you really have in mind and be direct. A real man does and says what he wants not what other people want.

Misinterpret her words on purpose. In your case you can tell her something like "we just met, your already talking about sex" lets slow down" and right after take action, grab her hand say "lets move here".

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See, I posted this about 10 AM, when I thought I had screwed up. Then, I realized it was more of a test than anything else. Also, I've noticed that my approaches have been really... robotic. I think this is a function of not really "owning" the knowledge, if that makes sense. I know the stuff, but I haven't figured out how to use the stuff yet, which will only come with repetition. It's just like learning how to change a hitting pattern (baseball). You can know it, but you have to do it several times (in baseball, hundreds of times) before you can own it.

That's good advice, by the way. I'm actually in a Facebook conversation very similar to the one I originally posted about, so I'm probably going to apply your advice in an hour or so. That belongs more in the "online game" area, however.

1. Don't ever, ever, ever say anything about a girls looks. Yeah, you kinda negged her by saying she was the 4th or 5th best looking one there. But you still mentioned her looks. Compliment on personality traits instead. Say she was a decent dancer or something.

2. It seems like you just kept firing out random attraction material. Instead of trying to keep forcing/assuming attraction. Give her a reason to be attracted to you.

The whole interaction was completely fucked up. Based off of the responses that you posted as to what she said... I'm going to guess you came off WAY too seriously. Be fun and playful.

I don't totally agree with #1. However, I agree with #2. I thought my approach was pretty robotic, to be honest with myself. I went to sleep last night saying "I need to make it less scripted and far more natural." I agree that I should've assumed attraction as well; that was one of the other flaws, looking back at it. I'm going to to work on more natural approaches tomorrow (I'm in a high school with 2,300 people... can't be too hard).

Complimenting a girl on her looks (if she is actually beautiful) will be a generic compliment. It is something she will hear all the time and it becomes kinda like "ehhh yeah great"

It's like having a nice house... You invite guests over, they say "hey, this is a really nice house man!" and you are so used to hearing the same compliment, it becomes generic and actually annoying.

By complimenting a girl on her personality, you are making her work to impress you. People appreciate things that they work harder for. Example... your parents could buy you a BMW... or you could work hard and make money to buy yourself a BMW... which way do you think will make you appreciate the car more? Make her WORK for your compliments and she will appreciate them more.

Yeah, I see what you mean, and your analogy of the BMW makes perfect sense to me; I hate being handed things. This girl doesn't get many compliments period, but not because she's unattractive. She's nuts, which I strangely find attractive (because I'm a little bit out of my mind too).

I definitely agree with what you're saying now, as it seems pretty logical. Ever consider putting a book out?

I have but I would rather teach. It's much more beneficial to people

Sounds like me when I teach hitters. I'm going to keep what you said in mind and approach more women.

I don't really believe there's a single "best system" out there. It's what fits your personality type. Personally, I'm not a nice guy to most people, so push-pull and negging are natural for me.

Agreed. There are alot of good theories and concepts out there. The best thing is to use what works best for you and your personality type.

Just make sure your negs are friendly and fun so you don't come off as a dick lol check this article out. Might help you a bit

http://themajikalmethod.com/welcome-to- ... -flirting/

i find it helpful to compliment a woman on her looks(though i am dealing with women over 25). But say8ing generic things like hot, beautiful gorgeous come off as lame.

I use words like striking or fantastic. or mix it up like say "you are strikingly stunning" or you are "fantastically sexy" Must be the extra adjective but it works well for me. But i do not do it as an opener, its almost mid game(5-10 mins into the convo for me) and i take a step back eye her up and say it, as if i just noticed.

MajikalMethod, thanks. I'll read through that as time allows. I've found that my approaches are getting better despite my limited experience.

A brief update: I've applied some of the advice given to me, and this girl is now testing me like no tomorrow. We'll see what happens.