After coming out of a LTR 2 years i have done some serious thinking. I met the girl in normal pua fashion house party, indirect game, screened, broke contact, dated bleh bleh... I notice when i dated her i was cool on not feeling jealous or insecure that is...... until made suttle behaviors toward me that girls that i fucked on the side used to do.

My opinion question of you fine gentleman is (drum roll)..... What are your thought on PUA causing trust issues in later ltr relasionships?

Think about this way. When i am in pua mode i am usually banging girls that "usually dont do this on the first night" (not important whether i believe them). There are senerios where the girl is talking to a guy they are dating on the phone while i am laying in the bed waiting to fuck her. When you see so much of this behavior how are you not supposed to have trust issues? if its normal how the fuck do you get over them?

Bump. Could really use some thoughts on this one....

I think you will find morals where morals are found.

Are you looking for a woman who will be loyal til death do you part? Find a church and meet a nice Christian lady. If she is dedicated to Christ, she'll be a one-man lady.

Although in order to do that you might have to evaluate your own set of beliefs. I'm not saying it's a perfect answer, but that's my best advice right now.

Remember, it is impossible to paint the entire female gender with such a broad brush (pardon the pun).

I can't give my other advice because I don't want to break board rules.

_________________
That's my $0.02

-Bluesy

My negative outcomes.

(Expanding on the topic i'll include all negative outcomes).

-Don't trust girls. Always assume there is some other guy. When they can't do something, I believe they are flaking, even when they are legitimate.

-Too results orientated. Every interaction both guy and girl, i'm simply working on milking out my best form, not exactly looking to connect with the person or go deep with them. I micro-analyse to too great of a degree. I slightly stammered on that one line, I didn't deliver that with full effect, I said that when I should have said this etc.

-Slightly less outgoing. Expanding on above, when situations arise to go out in which I see no benefit to myself, my position, or my game, I have little motivation.

-As with above, I don't look to connect with girls anymore, they are practice dummies, ways to work on game.

-Become slightly shallow. I don't do feelings anymore, and don't visibly fluctuate in mood, belief, or emotion, become somewhat empty.

-Have become somewhat of an asshole. Believe/know I am better than others, sometimes it is communicated passively.

-Have become a loose cannon. Being a beta back in the day meant you ruffled few feathers and had fewer enemies. Nowadays I do what I want, say what I want, when I want, and it doesn't exactly win everyone over.

But of course, the pros far outweigh the cons.

-SilverTonguedFox

You have simply become smarter. You are realizing the things that other people refuse to realize and live a life that people lie to them and take advantage of all the time. You are now just more aware of what is happening.

I can definetly see this. we come up in a world where everyone tells us girls arent supposed to put out and guys should find good girls get married have babys blah blah. Married chicks cheat, i think its sick in my opinion but i cannot do anything about it but accept it because it is out of my control.

There is no doubt what so ever that pua has brought alot of positive into my life though. I wouldnt be as healthy of an individual if it wasnt for DAvid Deangelo mostly. as well as countless others.

You hit some nails on the head with this post..

"-Too results orientated. Every interaction both guy and girl, i'm simply working on milking out my best form, not exactly looking to connect with the person or go deep with them. I micro-analyse to too great of a degree. I slightly stammered on that one line, I didn't deliver that with full effect, I said that when I should have said this etc.

-Slightly less outgoing. Expanding on above, when situations arise to go out in which I see no benefit to myself, my position, or my game, I have little motivation."

I do the same damn things.. I almost feel like i am a selfish asshole because some of my frineds will want to hang out with me and ill ask what all we are doing and who will be there, if i do not feel there is an oppurtunity to game any girls then i feel so unmotivated to go, almost like i am wasting my time.

I think i gotta find a bit of a balance point with this, like gaming and just chillin with friends. idk

Word. Not to mention there’s always pressure to maintain peak form and push the boundaries. Then there’s frustration when things are out of my control. My game overall is mostly wit based. The problem is with wit, grooves are hard to determine. Example I could be hung-over with three hours sleep, and will be a searing hot lightning rod when it comes to one-liners and sharpness. I can have nine hours sleep, be totally awake, ante up for an evening, and I’ll be struggling for words.

-SilverTonguedFox