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PostPosted: Sun May 19, 2013 6:29 pm 
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Hey guys. A question I have wondered about for some time.

So I go out most weekends and sarge at clubs and bars. One thing I have a hard time with is getting the signals that everyone in the community talks about. The eye contact, the brushing of hair, the smile and the laughter etc.

I rarely see any of this whenever I enter a venue. I would enter, look around if there is anyone giving me eye contact and I just fail to find any girls in there. I don't know if it is due to me not being focused enough or paying attention enough to it. I still approach, and I still have some succcess. But I feel like if I knew what girls to approach ( ie the girls giving eye contact to you and smiling) I would save my time and get a better succes rate during the night.

So really; Can you guys help me out on the very simple things that girls do in order to ''invite'' you to approach them? Signals?


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PostPosted: Sun May 19, 2013 7:43 pm 
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Hey guys. A question I have wondered about for some time.

So I go out most weekends and sarge at clubs and bars. One thing I have a hard time with is getting the signals that everyone in the community talks about. The eye contact, the brushing of hair, the smile and the laughter etc.

I rarely see any of this whenever I enter a venue. I would enter, look around if there is anyone giving me eye contact and I just fail to find any girls in there. I don't know if it is due to me not being focused enough or paying attention enough to it. I still approach, and I still have some succcess. But I feel like if I knew what girls to approach ( ie the girls giving eye contact to you and smiling) I would save my time and get a better succes rate during the night.

So really; Can you guys help me out on the very simple things that girls do in order to ''invite'' you to approach them? Signals?
Eye contact and proximity are my big two that I look for.

You really don't know if a girl is tossing her hair or whatever to get YOUR attention unless you are in the set (or if she is giving you other IOIs like crazy... smiling at you or seeking eye contact.)

Really use proximity to your advantage though. That has worked every time for me and it makes it really "natural" to open those sets. (meaning you aren't making a B-line towards the group)

Hope this helps you out bro :)


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PostPosted: Sun May 19, 2013 7:57 pm 
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Hey guys. A question I have wondered about for some time.

So I go out most weekends and sarge at clubs and bars. One thing I have a hard time with is getting the signals that everyone in the community talks about. The eye contact, the brushing of hair, the smile and the laughter etc.

I rarely see any of this whenever I enter a venue. I would enter, look around if there is anyone giving me eye contact and I just fail to find any girls in there. I don't know if it is due to me not being focused enough or paying attention enough to it. I still approach, and I still have some succcess. But I feel like if I knew what girls to approach ( ie the girls giving eye contact to you and smiling) I would save my time and get a better succes rate during the night.

So really; Can you guys help me out on the very simple things that girls do in order to ''invite'' you to approach them? Signals?
Eye contact and proximity are my big two that I look for.

You really don't know if a girl is tossing her hair or whatever to get YOUR attention unless you are in the set (or if she is giving you other IOIs like crazy... smiling at you or seeking eye contact.)

Really use proximity to your advantage though. That has worked every time for me and it makes it really "natural" to open those sets. (meaning you aren't making a B-line towards the group)

Hope this helps you out bro :)
Thanks mate!

Could you try and elaborate on proximity? Also how do you screen a venue for eye contact? Could you try and describe what you do exactly.


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PostPosted: Sun May 19, 2013 8:10 pm 
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Hey guys. A question I have wondered about for some time.

So I go out most weekends and sarge at clubs and bars. One thing I have a hard time with is getting the signals that everyone in the community talks about. The eye contact, the brushing of hair, the smile and the laughter etc.

I rarely see any of this whenever I enter a venue. I would enter, look around if there is anyone giving me eye contact and I just fail to find any girls in there. I don't know if it is due to me not being focused enough or paying attention enough to it. I still approach, and I still have some succcess. But I feel like if I knew what girls to approach ( ie the girls giving eye contact to you and smiling) I would save my time and get a better succes rate during the night.

So really; Can you guys help me out on the very simple things that girls do in order to ''invite'' you to approach them? Signals?
Eye contact and proximity are my big two that I look for.

You really don't know if a girl is tossing her hair or whatever to get YOUR attention unless you are in the set (or if she is giving you other IOIs like crazy... smiling at you or seeking eye contact.)

Really use proximity to your advantage though. That has worked every time for me and it makes it really "natural" to open those sets. (meaning you aren't making a B-line towards the group)

Hope this helps you out bro :)
Thanks mate!

Could you try and elaborate on proximity? Also how do you screen a venue for eye contact? Could you try and describe what you do exactly.

Sure.

You notice how groups of people tend to move through out the night? Pay attention to where people place themselves in these groups. You can almost be guaranteed that in a group of people that the girl who is standing within about 5-10 feet of you with her back towards you is already attracted to you. You can open this girl and she will be receptive of you. As humans, we position ourselves near people we seek an alignment with. She will turn her back because she wants to get close... but she doesn't want to get too close and open her chest up to you. So all you've gotta do.... is just turn around, look who's there, and open.

Eye contact is just being able to look around and see things without being caught looking really lol if you are a social guy... all eyes will be on you


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