Sorry Sly, I think they are.

Women want to get fucked just as much as I want to fuck them - that's been my experience.

Difference is - they want to get fucked, and they don't want you to stop. They claim it takes months to fall in love, but will drop that word on you in less than 3 weeks.

In my world - They're bat-shit crazy, and their ASD is only hiding the fact they WANT dick - they want it aggressively, and they want to think they're the only ones getting that dick...but they're every bit as shallow and as full of shit as we are.

A mall? A sportsteam?

Come on.... I don't 'try' to find the place to run day game. I live my fucking life. I run day game when I see the moment to strike. It's a reflex now.

I think you misunderstood me. I've never coached a sportsteam for daygame purposes. Fuck I wasn't even aware of something odd like this pua world. I didn't even join it to gain social skills. But eventually I did because I was there and I saw it my task to keep these younsters focused. So I tried being entertaining, being a leader, trying to see what's inside their minds by showing interest and active listening. And as you might know: these happen to be the traits of the skilled player. So eventually about every girl in my team fancied me.

And thats why I would advice newbies here to focus on building social intelligence instead of day gaming at a mall. Going in and getting a blank rejection isn't something you learn from much. And yea you'll get hits on cold approach. Of course you will, but at what cost?

If you want to meet girls you like you have to go to the places girls of your taste are.

By shallow I meant in terms of looks. I think you're talking more about personality...yea you're right if you can play on a woman's emotions then she will say all sorts of shit early on and you'll gain a lot of success with women this way. The bad thing is that it's hard to trust them cause you don't know if they're being genuine or if they are just saying shit due to an emotional high.

Sorry guys but this entire thread gave me a headache. The mental masturbation goes all ways and everyone is right that it's impossible to come to a conclusion. A lot of interesting information but I'm looking for the best solution.

60 advocates to do PU outside of your social circle/work place.

I don't think he's full of shit at all, it makes perfect sense that guys will have much more success with "warm" approaches where the girl gives off signals of liking the guy than "cold" approaches where she gives none at all. None of the top PUAs have a success rate anywhere near the number they make out.

Paul Janka, who is a tall good looking guy, ends up having sex with 11% of the girls who agree to give him their number - that's obviously not including the girls he approaches who refuse, which makes the percentage even less. That's about the success rate most guys who do cold approach get, well the good looking ones anyway, the less attractive guys will have an even lower percentage. That's why PUA's like Yad have to trawl the street for 12 hours a day collecting numbers.

Women are just as shallow as men when it comes to looks. People won't want to accept that because either they've been brainwashed by the PUA bullshit that "looks don't matter", or they know they're not tall and good looking and they want to believe that they can somehow get the hottest girls with "tight game". It's bullshit.

Paul Janka problem is that he goes for numbers, numbers will flake.. They do not mean anything!

Aaron Sleazy the asshole is obviously trying the same nonsense as Rob Judge et al. They are trying to get our money by DIFFERENTIATING their product. We hate PUAs is like a diet book saying as most of them actually do say "Everything else don't work and I know that, that's why I won't you to have this, my diet book!" Surely, both of them are sleazy. By the way, I don't doubt Aaron's game at all but let me put it this way. If you had a way to know which girls are horny for you, then your cold approaches will also have a 100% success rate. It's easy to do that in clubs and that's why he has so much club game. I personally think that we need to improve on ourselves all the time even if it means torrent downloading a bad PUA product because everything has its bad parts you can learn from. On Aaron Sleazy's book Debunking the Seduction Community he says there are two main red hearings in the seduction industry as the asshole calls it, but I am sure he haven't taken a college critical thinking class to know what a red hearing is. Like all myths, Aaron Sleazy's nonsense have some truth to it. That's there are some girls who are interested in you, some who aren't and some who are yellow lights. But, in reality, if you know how to identify the horny girls which is easier in warm approaches, you could have a great success rate. I think we should focus less on routines and more on identifying horny girls who are interested in us by way of their body language and eye contact emotional connection. This is all the time I can waste talking about a asshole like Aaron Sleazy.