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PostPosted: Tue May 14, 2013 10:12 am 
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Hi there, I need some advice.

About 2 weeks ago I met this girl, got her number, she lives like an hour away but I got a car so that's no problem.
We set up a date at her town, I picked her up and we went to have a few drinks... everything was fine, we laughed, we hold hands, we (french) kissed and ended the date.
I know girls lose interest if you don't see them often, especially if she lives far away, so like 3 days after the first date I called her to set up a second date... at my town this time, she agreed.
So the first date was on a saturday, tuesday I called her to set up the second date on thursday.

But about 3 hours before we should meet she texts me, conversation was like this:
Her: "Honey, I don't think tonight is a good night..."
Me: "Okay"
Her: "Next time okay"
Me: "I'm kinda busy next week"
Her: "Awww too bad"
Me: "Just call me when you want to set something up and I'll tell you if I have time"
Her: "Okay"

So we had this conversation on thursday, it's tuesday now and haven't spoken to her since.
Also I like to keep my conversations short, I never talked to her between the dates... only to arrange a new one. As you can see in the text conversation I tried to give her the "I don't care" mentality as I don't want to come off as needy.

So... what should I do? Do you think she's just not interested or she didn't want to come to my town?
I WANTED the second date at my town so she can invest too... it shouldn't be me going to her constantly.
Should I contact her anytime or should I wait till she contacts me? To be honest I liked the girl and things went well the first date so I'd like to see her again.


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PostPosted: Tue May 14, 2013 10:31 am 
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So we had this conversation on thursday, it's tuesday now and haven't spoken to her since.
Also I like to keep my conversations short, I never talked to her between the dates... only to arrange a new one.
She's not that interested. That's kind of the same as her not wanting to come to your town. Why don't you speak to girls between dates? Any specific reasons?


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PostPosted: Tue May 14, 2013 10:35 am 
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Well she doesn't speak to you because you told her that this week of yours is kinda busy. So why the hell she should disturb you.

I never understand when people say they are busy especially for a whole week, if you want to make yourself available, you can.

Who's going to where. I think you are overthinking it. Personally I think it's fine with going to the girls place on the first few occasions. It's not bad to show her that you are interested. I'm not talking about being needy here btw.

Regarding your situation she cancelled the 2nd date without giving you a reason and suggesting another time. She said another time but didn't offer any days etc, so this is bad.

In order to stay congruent with your texts don't contact her this week, since you said you were gonna be busy. Give her a call next week sometime.


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PostPosted: Tue May 14, 2013 10:44 am 
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Its funny. I had this exact problem recently.:D

I can tell you what it ends up with: you will get more needy/clingy, lose your confiedence, she will run away, you will chase and it ends. The moment you write to her first, is where you will come off as needy, unless she is interessted(which you dont know).

OR know that, you are about to lose the game, so when she writes to you, rebuild rapport/attraction and meet her ASAP.

Good luck.


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PostPosted: Tue May 14, 2013 10:59 am 
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She's not that interested. That's kind of the same as her not wanting to come to your town. Why don't you speak to girls between dates? Any specific reasons?
Yeah, don't want to come off as needy... also to be honest I really don't care what she has to say.
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Well she doesn't speak to you because you told her that this week of yours is kinda busy. So why the hell she should disturb you.

I never understand when people say they are busy especially for a whole week, if you want to make yourself available, you can.

Who's going to where. I think you are overthinking it. Personally I think it's fine with going to the girls place on the first few occasions. It's not bad to show her that you are interested. I'm not talking about being needy here btw.

Regarding your situation she cancelled the 2nd date without giving you a reason and suggesting another time. She said another time but didn't offer any days etc, so this is bad.

In order to stay congruent with your texts don't contact her this week, since you said you were gonna be busy. Give her a call next week sometime.
I told her I'm busy because she flaked... I don't want to be TOO available... I had the idea she was sh!t testing me with her flake.
Also don't you agree she has to invest time too? I come to her, she comes to me... deal goes both way.
Yeah she cancelled without giving me a reason, I thought that was a bad thing too.

Maybe she thinks I was too forward?
We were already holding hands on the first date and 3 days later I called her for the second date...

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Its funny. I had this exact problem recently.:D

I can tell you what it ends up with: you will get more needy/clingy, lose your confiedence, she will run away, you will chase and it ends. The moment you write to her first, is where you will come off as needy, unless she is interessted(which you dont know).

OR know that, you are about to lose the game, so when she writes to you, rebuild rapport/attraction and meet her ASAP.

Good luck.
Nah mate, this will not happen... I'm not the needy/clingy guy and I will DEFINITLY not lose my confidence... also I'm already talking up other girls and have a new date with another girl this thursday.
But I liked this girl and I want to date her more.


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PostPosted: Tue May 14, 2013 11:18 am 
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Yeah, don't want to come off as needy... also to be honest I really don't care what she has to say.
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But I liked this girl and I want to date her more.
On the first date you held hands and you ask if you were being too forward. You like this girl however not what she has to say. What's your plan with this girl? You are the one sending out mixed signals: not escalating yet not showing interest either. There can be tons of reasons why she's flaking, and this unclarity may be one of them.


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PostPosted: Tue May 14, 2013 11:36 am 
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On the first date you held hands and you ask if you were being too forward. You like this girl however not what she has to say. What's your plan with this girl? You are the one sending out mixed signals: not escalating yet not showing interest either. There can be tons of reasons why she's flaking, and this unclarity may be one of them.
I like the girl... I just don't care what she has to say on text... when you text nothing happens. No attraction nothing. So I don't text.
Also not escalating? We held hands while walking and we kissed... are these mixed singnals?

Also I'm the one iniating the dates....


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PostPosted: Tue May 14, 2013 3:37 pm 
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If you really want to find out how interested she is, just text something like "Had a meeting for tomorrow and it cleared up, interested to join for a fun time(or coffee/date/w.e)" And gauge her IL from her response.


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Her: "Honey, I don't think tonight is a good night..."
Me: "Okay"
Her: "Next time okay"
Me: "I'm kinda busy next week"
Her: "Awww too bad"
Me: "Just call me when you want to set something up and I'll tell you if I have time"
Her: "Okay"

So she cancelled, I know you're disappointed because you had your hopes up, but really things happen in peoples lives. It doesn't matter if she had second thoughts about you, would sooner paint her nails, was tired from her day and wanted to unwind ALONE, or her cat just died. Sure, "Next time okay" seems like a bit of a brush-off because generally speaking a girl who is interested enough will offer an alternate time to meet. Question is, do you like her enough to not care and give it another try? You seriously have nothing to lose so why not set up another date, but not before intiating some light humorous banter to get her interested in meeting with you, and then perhaps the 2nd or 3rd time you talk set up the next date. Stop overthinking this.

BTW she likely WONT contact you to hangout, (she may contact you to say 'hello'), but seriously most women want a guy to man up and set the dates up.


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