So, leading more on from my topic, "So there's this girl at work...", i've been talking to her A LOT via text and facebook private messages lately and it's all been going rather well.

So I sent her a message earlier this evening talking about something and said "Which reminds me, someone didn't text back this morning like they were supposed to." as i'd told her to text me in the morning last night. I now realise this could come across as a bit of an AFC comment to make, but she responded, with, what I think is a shit test and said, "I didn't know we were meant to text eachother daily!" and also mentioned how she's been telling her girl friends to make their facebook profiles private because she studies some computer course at uni and is very up on these things.

I then replied, "I didn't say that, but now you've suggested it, it makes me think we should, good idea! We can start by you texting me when you get this message. And good call on the privacy thing, any advice you can give me on how to protect myself from preying girls like yourself?"

I think this was a good response as, if it was a shit test (was it?), I responded in a cocky funny way and have also given her an IOI, and also kind of negged her and implied she's interested in me in the privacy thing? Any way I could've improved that?

All advice welcome!

Wilde

Maybe something along these lines


Your totally right! We aren't supposed to ONLY be texting each other daily. We need to be texting each other multiple times a day! When you wake up, when you feed your cat, when you get in the car to get to school, when you get out of the car to get to school, when the boy behind you in 3rd period creeps on you, when your in gym class if you have a camera phone, when you get home, when you take your afternoon nap, before I come over to your house in the afternoon, across the table from me when your mom is noticing what a great guy I am, when we finish desert, and when we have that deep meaningful conversation under the stars on your rooftop keeping warm under a blanket, and then when I have left, and then when you want me to come back over.
THATS how many times we should be texting. No excuses missy
Oh, and I forgot one.
When you get this message

- I wouldn't even respond to her girls making profiles private thread, its kinda gay. This one is much more fun, taking her frame and blowing it up in her face while doing some future projection and DHVing

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Ooh that's good. Is there anyway I can or should follow up from what I already sent then to portray what you said or should I just see what her reply is?

example:

you know what? Scratch what I said earlier... after pondering for days on end about you (Are your legs tired btw? because they have been running through my mind like crazy) I have come to the grand conclusion that we should not be texting ONLY daily. We should be... (continue with story)

its pretending to be AFC but in the end blowing it up and showing her you know whats up

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That is good. Similar to my reply but mines a whole lot shorter.

'Dont worry, i wont txt you 50 times aday to tell what i've been up to in last 20 minutes'.

Thats my line anyway, does'nt really suit your storey as much, works for me all the time, or was it 20mins? I'll check gotta get these things u know


Thats why i hate email because it does'nt give them time to miss you and conversation can turn abit bland sometimes. I like to just make the odd phone call and i try not to get into the habbit of this.

I like your response as it is the basis of mine but without the extra exxagerration it CAN come off as kinda creepy.

Granted it usually won't but if you are texting her a lot then it might, which you probably will be/sending messages so it could

If you exxagerrate then your safer

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Wilde, firstly, yes I think this girl is testing you; she may suspect you of being needy and wants to investigate. This being the case, my advice at this stage would be to avoid sending a message like the one Jack suggested. It projects too much effort on your part, demonstrates lower value and most importantly confirms her suspicions. I understand the concept behind it (mock her by sending a parody AFC response) but I think there's a high risk she won't get it and will just be creeped out. It's very long.

Assuming you had asked her to text you and she didn't, I would send something along the lines of "Where did the daily messages idea came from..? I was just concerned that you weren't doing as you were told". Obviously you're supposed to come across as a joker here, not a Nazi so make it obvious you're teasing (pepper it with a "lol" or two if you're into that). Not perfect, but if that kind of response suits you, put it into your own words and send. Let us know how it goes.

I somewhat agree with you qwerty in the aspect that this is probably not the best story for him to use as it seems that it is completely incongruent with wilde's game at the moment. It is, however, along the lines of what I would send.

I digress but-
I don't really understand how you think that taking time and making a semi-wordy post shows neediness and lower value. How is having fun and messing around with the girl show neediness and a lack of confidence/lower value? If one feels the need to confine themselves to the limit of 300 characters per response then by God you need some help. Your actually, not directly, but still playing into her frame by choosing the words and limiting them so you supposedly pass this shit test. So she throws out a shit test, who cares. Do whatever you want still. If one is constantly on tip toes during conversation then it will take you a long time, if ever, to feel comfortable if you feel like you have to pass and evaluate everything she throws out at you. Don't be afraid to break the set-in-sand rules of PU.

My advice
Write whatever you want
Look over it and/or send it here so we can critique it
We will give some insight as to what it sub communicates
And you can adjust accordingly
If someone tells you what to say all the time then you are really just setting yourself up for heartache later if it works and she realizes its not the real you
so in conclusion
write whatever you really feel you want to write
and with our critique
you can write the next one and it will be a little better
and rinse and repeat

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Jack, I don't think that "having fun and messing around with the girl" shows neediness and I don't even think I used the phrase "lack of confidence". I do however, think that you demonstrate lower value by sending a long and thoughtful text in response to her insinuation that you are needy. Texts like that take time and effort to compose and I don't think I'd want to reward her with that unless I was convinced that she was just fooling around and that this was NOT a shit test.

Also, I agree there has to come a point at which you stop assessing every scenario in terms of the PU theories and just relax. Definitely. I'm just offering a message that I would instinctively FEEL like sending in this situation. The analysis and evaluation are almost sub-conscious until you take a second to think about it. I obviously agree that he should send what he wants to send, naturally something that suits him, but he's obviously here to pick up a couple of ideas.

Just to reiterate, I don't think that "having fun and messing around with the girl" shows neediness. I don't think I ever said anything to that effect but I thought I'd better clarify.

So what do you think she's likely to reply to what I wrote in the original post of this thread? And how should I prepare myself to handle it? I'll post here what she replies when she does but it'd be interesting to hear your responses.

Oh yeah, sorry dude, I forgot you'd already sent your own one. Well you've heard a couple of takes on how you might have improved on it, but I think the one you sent seems fine. I'm not sure if I have enough information to forecast what her reply is likely to be but if she's quite a playful girl and the two of you have a decent rapport going I imagine she'll send a jokey response like, "as if you'd want/need protection from girls like me" followed up with a further question if she's interested in keeping the thread going. In answer to your question I can't really tell, but be sure to post her reply!

After reading your response I noticed that you said texts like that take time to compose and I was under the impression that it was a myspace message. Good God that would be a long text and I would fully agree with you then.

And yes I do see what you are stressing now in your previous response. Clarified

And to wilde.
It would be hard to guess what she will put, but none the less, put it up followed by your response that your thinking about sendin.

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Ok cool, will do. Btw, this 'aint a texting game this one, this is facebook messages.

Here's her reply:

"No I definitely do not think daily texts are a good idea, I have enough distracts from my work as it is without you texting every 2 mins!!!

I will have you know I am not a perv...I can't believe that is coming from the boy that ran into the pub to tell everyone I had soft porn on my profile!!!

I sent her a really good quote I found from a journal...it's not just pervs that look at your page the police use Facebook too!! xx"

Just for the record, she didn't text me like I told her to (she is very uni focused) and I didn't run into the pub saying that, I wrote on her facebook wall telling her that.

So, what to say back?

what do you want to say back?

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