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PostPosted: Tue May 07, 2013 1:00 pm 
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In recent times I have been wanting to settle down and I have been on a few dates with girls that I am attracted to who I may have either been set up with, seen briefly in a club/bar or any other way of intro.
These girls that I want something to happen with (even if part of me know they are not right and its just that they look good) are obviously in demand and get their fare share of attention. I have had some cocky banter with them on email and them when meeting them, been a bit nervous (outcome dependent) and the date has not gone my way. One or two of them said 'you are a nice guy but'... One of the girls who said that was actually asking me over email previously if I arrogant because she didnt want to meet me if I was. I stupidly toned it down not realising that my cocky (and genuine) attitude was pulling her in.

One of my biggest problems has been holding a girls attention when meeting for the first time. That bullshit convo of 'So what do you do?.' 'Where do you live?' creeps in.. and I just dont seem to be someone who is able to ever really get away with it. Alot of the techniques spoken about in PUA get forgotten about and its not me.

By nature and with the girls I am friendly with and who know me (where I feel comfortable), I am a very funny guy, lots of sexual jokes, naughty and come across as someone with a good inner game. These girls love it and admit they would be into me if I was.

I have tried experimenting recently with just being myself in an overly sexual cheeky and confident (not smiling much manner) like I am with my female friends and its so much better. Girls seem to respond so well to a sex conversation and someone who really rates himself.

One girl on the weekend I met in a bar, I went up to her.. starting talking.. asked which country she was born in and how many languages she could speak.. I started to fear a boring conversation/failure if I carried on so I inserted the question.. 'do you speak sex?' .. she laughed, elaborated a little.. 5 mins later I have her number and I have a date set up for this Fri. When I meet girls now I am trying to make a sexual reference when I first meet them .. i.e. 'nice bum' or 'Thats a nice a name.. but are you any good in bed?' - as this seems to set me apart from others straight away.. i.e. who is this confident guy who doesnt seem to give a shit and isnt afraid to be sexual with me?.' Alot of the ideas still come from PUA, but I am just not a 'by the Neil Strauss book' kind of guy.

Just wandered if anyone here shares this type of experience or can advise how to take this even further?

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PostPosted: Tue May 07, 2013 1:28 pm 
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I don't have any personal tips, but what I think you're aiming towards is called 'rapid escalation'. On this forum there have been some threads and on google there's many websites dedicated to it. Good luck!


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PostPosted: Tue May 07, 2013 2:24 pm 
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What is your problem? Do you even know it?


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PostPosted: Tue May 07, 2013 4:00 pm 
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My problem-
All of us have many gears to our personality, bit like a car. Calm and relaxed, sometimes a bit loud, sometimes inbetween. What I am saying is that unless I am in this top gear, I don't seem to get results. Top gear is a bit of an exaggerated real me. I cannot just be the calm or even inbetween me and get results. Sometimes I can, but with an HB8+, I usually lose out.

I'm not even sure yet if it is a problem, but I have to remind myself to go for rapid escalation and not get caught in regular chat. I'm still experimenting and seeing what's happening so will come back. Its not the first time I have used 'rapid escalation'. I have used it many times with the not so great looking girls (not that bothered about outcome). But I am starting to make it my personality now when meeting all girls. Even a hot girl in a group of sometimes friends.

I did however have a problem situation the other week. Went for a date with a girl I met online. Was a completely sexual prick online and she was calling me a prick too... but agreed to meet me. Couldnt stop texting me infact. lol
I kind of ended up in conversation between that arrogant sexual front and then into normal conversation.
Her comment was.. 'I dont get you'... you can be normal one minute and then weird the next minute'.. referring to the way I was switching between gears. I ended up trying to sit on her lap in the pub, she said 'please dont invade my personal space'.. I thought 'f*ck off you miserable bitch' and then left.
If she was hotter I would have stuck it out, but was still frustrated she wasnt biting like I wanted her too.

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PostPosted: Tue May 07, 2013 7:13 pm 
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Ah, i see. I got the exact same problem.

Mate, lets face it. The more we speak face to face, the more we will suck. If you want to be neutral, fuck the girl first and be yourself after. She will absolutely accept you, as you are, but first you need to fuck them.

So, you talk about sex etc. she meets you shaved and ready, but all you do is going beta. She expects something from you remember?

This is my best experience with this problem.


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