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PostPosted: Mon May 06, 2013 4:05 pm 
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So recently I came across an article about how detrimental masturbation is to our mental health.(Bizzare,right?)
Of all the things in the world, masturbation leaves us with a great feeling of an overwhelming sensation and a good one too.

Anyways, I got really intimadated by the consequence of masturbating to the point that I didn't even dream of getting a hard-on for a few days. And let me tell you guys: IT'S THE BEST FEELING IN THE WORLD(SECOND TO MASTURBATING).
Pre-history:
During the days I was masturbating, I walked around with a bad vibe, had low self-esteem and confidence, was MEGA anti-social, I would try to end every conversation as fast as possible. It got me to a point that I would be on of the last person anyone would bother talking to. In effect, I was pretty lonesome.

This started 2-3 years ago when I discovered about Capri Alexis(caught in the charlie sheen case). I got instantly attracted to her and since then, my genesis of fapping started.

FastForward Today:
I haven't masturbated in a while and like stated in the opening introduction, I feel really great. I have massive reservoirs of energy to spend, I feel more rejuvenated and in some ways,more masculine as well.
My anxieties,depression,paranoia, negativity, anger all decreased significantly. I'm enjoying life right now.

I can say that my game has increased significantly,if I may say so myself.
That's why I'm urging you guys: Stop masturbating. It's a known fact that masturbating infront of a computer screen decreases testosterone level while having REAL ,PLEASURABLE sex with the REAL PEOPLE increases your testosterone level.

Keep gaming,
theindiankid

P.S. The articles: http://indianlair.com/article-effect-po ... s-986.html
Video1: http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=pl ... MJgZ4s2E3w
Video2: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wSF82AwSDiU

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PostPosted: Mon May 06, 2013 7:35 pm 
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Is it legit?

HELL YA MOTHERFUCKER!

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PostPosted: Mon May 06, 2013 8:58 pm 
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I was about to shoot down your argument in flames because I remembered a paper from China where T levels rose only on the 7th day of abstinence, for a little bit.. before dropping back to baseline supposedly: (I can't post links, but here's the citation):
"A research on the relationship between ejaculation and serum testosterone level in men."
Jiang M, Xin J, Zou Q, Shen JW.
J Zhejiang Univ Sci. 2003 Mar-Apr;4(2):236-40.

Then I found the fulltext of a german paper (citation):
"Endocrine response to masturbation-induced orgasm in healthy men following a 3-week sexual abstinence."
Exton MS, Krüger TH, Bursch N, Haake P, Knapp W, Schedlowski M, Hartmann U.
World J Urol. 2001 Nov;19(5):377-82.

I looked at the charts, and apparently, yes, there is some measurable rise in T from not getting off for 3 weeks. The paper claims a P-value confidence interval of .029 for the result, and it does appear that the control vs experimental results are ~2 standard deviations apart, which is significant. However they didn't randomize the subjects properly and did before/after abstinence measurements on the same subjects instead of assigning random groups for a control/experimental. It's a tactic that lets them reduce population variance, but it can introduce a hidden variable.

However, do remember, that desperately wanting to get off, could hurt your game and make you come off more desperate/needy for sex.
Finally, there is some evidence that your sperm starts to degrade after a week of not ejaculating, and it can actually raise your risk of prostate cancer as a result of the release of free radicals from the decomposition.
If you plan on having children. Absolutely do NOT abstain from getting off for several weeks to months before, or you risk impregnating your woman with a partially degraded/damaged sperm and the fallout is a deformed baby. You'll need to flush your system for at least several weeks before you go for the kid. Of course, that's never going to apply to me (getting a vasectomy yeeeeeaaa)


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PostPosted: Mon May 06, 2013 9:12 pm 
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I'm trying to cut it out and I'm finding that when you don't, you build up a sexual aura about you, if you then jerk off several times you feel completely dissipated and it takes time to get it back.
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However, do remember, that desperately wanting to get off, could hurt your game and make you come off more desperate/needy for sex.
Being needy is a mindset, and if you can be non-needy in your mind while having this powerful sexual aura that the build-up creates, you're likely to make quite an impression!

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PostPosted: Mon May 06, 2013 11:58 pm 
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People have said things like this in the forums for years. And most of it has been proven untrue. There are certain benefits to not masturbating, but actual medical science has been unable to prove anything happens with excessive masturbation except baldness. It also decreases the sensitive of the penis depending on the force applied to the penis during masturbation. I've even consulted my physician about the issue and he said nothing was wrong with masturbation. He even went on to say that masturbation helps to rid of old sperm and helps to produce newer and healthier sperm.

The issue with masturbation lies in with frequency. If it's done too often, it can cause decreases in the production or certain chemicals in the body and the brain can become over stimulated. Meaning that it can be difficult to maintain or generate and erection during initial attempts. Most issues related to unresponsive erections are more related to diet and exercise and less about the amount one masturbates. If a man has a proper diet, and is exercising, most of these issues shouldn't matter. Testosterone has been decreases in males for the past 50s because of poor diet, lack of exercise, and potentially certain technologies such as cell phones.

To reverse this trend it is recommended that one exercises and eats right. Now, on the flip side, there is one huge and tremendous benefit to not masturbating, it makes you horny. This can be what many guys are lacking. Sexual aggressiveness is a sign of masculinity and health. Something that all women value to an extent. It may very well prove possible that results with women would improve should one avoid excessive masturbation (more than once or twice a week).

At any rate, nice experiment, even though I think there were tons of preselective biases in the experiment which rendered the results "suspect".


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PostPosted: Tue May 07, 2013 12:03 am 
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People have said things like this in the forums for years. And most of it has been proven untrue. There are certain benefits to not masturbating, but actual medical science has been unable to prove anything happens with excessive masturbation except baldness. It also decreases the sensitive of the penis depending on the force applied to the penis during masturbation. I've even consulted my physician about the issue and he said nothing was wrong with masturbation. He even went on to say that masturbation helps to rid of old sperm and helps to produce newer and healthier sperm.

The issue with masturbation lies in with frequency. If it's done too often, it can cause decreases in the production or certain chemicals in the body and the brain can become over stimulated. Meaning that it can be difficult to maintain or generate and erection during initial attempts. Most issues related to unresponsive erections are more related to diet and exercise and less about the amount one masturbates. If a man has a proper diet, and is exercising, most of these issues shouldn't matter. Testosterone has been decreases in males for the past 50s because of poor diet, lack of exercise, and potentially certain technologies such as cell phones.

To reverse this trend it is recommended that one exercises and eats right. Now, on the flip side, there is one huge and tremendous benefit to not masturbating, it makes you horny. This can be what many guys are lacking. Sexual aggressiveness is a sign of masculinity and health. Something that all women value to an extent. It may very well prove possible that results with women would improve should one avoid excessive masturbation (more than once or twice a week).

At any rate, nice experiment, even though I think there were tons of preselective biases in the experiment which rendered the results "suspect".
Could you please post a citation for the baldness paper, and it causing temporary ED? I'm kind of curious.
I have noticed that porn has messed me up in the past to where i got so desensitized to sex that my gfs accused me of not being interested in them...


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PostPosted: Tue May 07, 2013 12:35 am 
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Could you please post a citation for the baldness paper, and it causing temporary ED? I'm kind of curious. I have noticed that porn has messed me up in the past to where i got so desensitized to sex that my gfs accused me of not being interested in them...
Yeah no problem. Here's the source: http://www.askmen.com/dating/love_tip_5 ... ation.html, Men's Health. It's a reliable source for most of these matters.


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This overproduction impacts each person differently, and can range from fatigue, pelvic pain, vision changes, lower back pain, testicular pain, or hair loss. There is current research that states increased testosterone production is linked to DHT production, which is associated with male pattern hair loss.


Read more: http://www.askmen.com/dating/love_tip_5 ... z2SYwP5sYH
Here's another article from a University.

http://www.mckinley.illinois.edu/handou ... ation.html


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PostPosted: Tue May 07, 2013 12:59 am 
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My biggest complaint with the no fap is the fact that now I get boners often and sometimes they can get disturbing.

It does test your discipline though, one of the keys to success.

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I stopped fapping for a while now and I feel SUPER!


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PostPosted: Tue May 07, 2013 2:19 am 
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I stopped fapping for a while now and I feel SUPER!
For how long? My record was a month... by the end of it, it was like, torture...


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Love this post.
I was up at a buddys house for a week.
I'm not going to jerk off in my friends house haha, worked out every other day and good diet (MOAR TESTOSTERONE!!!).
Friday comes along and we go out, Its kinda hot so I'm sweating a bit. Went over to the bar to grab a drink and a girl turns around and looks at me.

Girl: YOU SMELL AMAZING...
DZB:...Um, i didn't..put on any.. deodorant, or colon ? :S
I was so thrown off, so i proceeded to smell my armpit in confusion. I held up my arm for the girl to take her turn and away she went. I'm sure her nose touched the wet spot lmao.
Girl: OH YA THATS IT.

I don't know if it was a coincidence with the no jerking off thing or it was her way of picking up guys?
either way I didn't bang her, she was probably a 6 or so.


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I'm sitting here wondering if my ex will notice all the new female attention I'm getting and you guys are worried about the side effects of masterbation. Come on guys.


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PostPosted: Tue May 07, 2013 3:12 am 
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Love this post.
I was up at a buddys house for a week.
I'm not going to jerk off in my friends house haha, worked out every other day and good diet (MOAR TESTOSTERONE!!!).
Friday comes along and we go out, Its kinda hot so I'm sweating a bit. Went over to the bar to grab a drink and a girl turns around and looks at me.

Girl: YOU SMELL AMAZING...
DZB:...Um, i didn't..put on any.. deodorant, or colon ? :S
I was so thrown off, so i proceeded to smell my armpit in confusion. I held up my arm for the girl to take her turn and away she went. I'm sure her nose touched the wet spot lmao.
Girl: OH YA THATS IT.

I don't know if it was a coincidence with the no jerking off thing or it was her way of picking up guys?
either way I didn't bang her, she was probably a 6 or so.
Lmao!!

I cant tell if this is a troll or not cause I know some girls that actually like that smell


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Love this post.
I was up at a buddys house for a week.
I'm not going to jerk off in my friends house haha, worked out every other day and good diet (MOAR TESTOSTERONE!!!).
Friday comes along and we go out, Its kinda hot so I'm sweating a bit. Went over to the bar to grab a drink and a girl turns around and looks at me.

Girl: YOU SMELL AMAZING...
DZB:...Um, i didn't..put on any.. deodorant, or colon ? :S
I was so thrown off, so i proceeded to smell my armpit in confusion. I held up my arm for the girl to take her turn and away she went. I'm sure her nose touched the wet spot lmao.
Girl: OH YA THATS IT.

I don't know if it was a coincidence with the no jerking off thing or it was her way of picking up guys?
either way I didn't bang her, she was probably a 6 or so.
Lmao!!

I cant tell if this is a troll or not cause I know some girls that actually like that smell
Apparently some women respond well to "musk" odors but there's more to BO than "musk". That's a gland secretion. Most BO is actually metabolites from bacteria that live in your armpit skin. Deodorant kills off the bacteria and down-regulates sweat production at the pores. It might stop the "musk" secretion along with the sweat, I don't know, but if you want to try to use that to attract girls, at least wash with soap and use some rubbing alcohol to kill the bacteria under your armpits. It will get rid of the BO smell for several hours, but you might still get the "musk".


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PostPosted: Tue May 07, 2013 2:07 pm 
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I'm perfectly aware of the testosterone build-up from abstaining from masturbation, but I had no idea that it decreases after some time. However ,given the way I feel, I'm going to keep this up. I feel super-charged and could not have felt any better.
I'm only about a week to two weeks in this no-fap session, so I'll keep posted about how I feel and any significant changes as well.
Like what @dicklow said, it'll be better to abstain from fapping but occasionaly giving your "rod" a little tug once in a while.
Basically, here's what I want to sum-up:
I believe that the no-fapping experience retains some of our sexual-vibe and can actually boost our sexual-prowess. In terms of Game, I believe interactions are more smoother,less awkwardness, more naturality in our behaviour and thus, success rate inevitably increases.(relatively significantly than not-fapping.)

Let me know what you guys think! :wink:

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