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PostPosted: Thu May 02, 2013 9:45 pm 
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Hi everyone,

I'm starting this dangerous and daring path into the world of PUA and feel its about time i took some control in my life and walk in a positive direction. I'm 21, recently graduated university and now working in London. To put it simple, I have never kissed a girl or even tried. I know perhaps I'm not the worst person here as i often hear stories about people starting later and in worse conditions, but I've just had enough of watching beautiful women stroll by, for me to only stop and stare into the distance like I'm worthless. I really hope the PUA community will be able to point me in the right direction and this is the main reason I have come to these forums.

I am a typical example of nice-guy syndrome, where I feel that I must be careful where I tread with women and give them the utmost respect. Clearly I was mistaken, and have had to learn the hard way. I'd say my main weakness is confidence having never really gone and asked a girl out. I currently work in London, and would love it if anyone based around there could help out .

I hope this road ends well , and i guess this is the start of my journey ,

thanks

R


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Welcome. Try the Meet and Wing section for companionship.

Peace and piece,
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PostPosted: Fri May 03, 2013 9:15 am 
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Cheers man , are you experienced in this field ?


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Cheers man , are you experienced in this field ?
I only have as much experience as I have cultivated through going out . That is to say, not so much. ;-)

You want to get good real fast? Go out everyday.And keep. a journal. Just trust me. I saw much bigger improvement in myself in a DAY of going out opposed to a WEEK of studying pickup theory. But that's another story for another time. And you're not hopeless. Look up my journal "Nightblade:-opening" and search for (topic name) approach anxiety extreme in the introductions.. You don't have to be a genius to see the improvement.

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PostPosted: Sat May 04, 2013 12:08 pm 
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Thanks alot :) at the moment I'm a complete beginner , so do you think there are any good reads to get used to the terminology and strats used in pua ?


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PostPosted: Sat May 04, 2013 2:55 pm 
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The game by Neil Strauss.
Magic bullets by Savoy.
The complete game revision system by 60 years of challenge.

Personally, if I could go back and change something about all the time I spent in the community, I'd not read anything else but these. Nothing like too much information to FUCK you up. My advice, read these only and use them. Then when you feel comfortable enough within these systems, you can try out other gurus. Although by then, you'll probably be good enough to understand stuff out for yourself. ;-)

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PostPosted: Sat May 04, 2013 3:25 pm 
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Haha just realised you are from my home country too haha , nice coincidence , thanks for the books , I will be sure to read them carefully and hopefully put the knowledge to good use ,

I guess my first step is to really just go out there and see what happens

Thanks

R


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Wow. SL? I'll be keeping my eye on you.
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Yeah haha I might be coming back to colombo end of tihs year for a holiday , and cheers Il try not to let you down


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Hi everyone,

I'm starting this dangerous and daring path into the world of PUA and feel its about time i took some control in my life and walk in a positive direction. I'm 21, recently graduated university and now working in London. To put it simple, I have never kissed a girl or even tried. I know perhaps I'm not the worst person here as i often hear stories about people starting later and in worse conditions, but I've just had enough of watching beautiful women stroll by, for me to only stop and stare into the distance like I'm worthless. I really hope the PUA community will be able to point me in the right direction and this is the main reason I have come to these forums.

I am a typical example of nice-guy syndrome, where I feel that I must be careful where I tread with women and give them the utmost respect. Clearly I was mistaken, and have had to learn the hard way. I'd say my main weakness is confidence having never really gone and asked a girl out. I currently work in London, and would love it if anyone based around there could help out .

I hope this road ends well , and i guess this is the start of my journey ,

thanks

R

Hey R,

London is a perfect place to practice your game because I used to live in London for ten years (from 2000 to 2010) and was approaching random women everywhere and picking up their phone numbers day in day out.

By the way, perhaps you may want to get encouraged and inspired by my London pick up struggles and adventures during which sadly enough I didn't know that the PUA community existed for the whole length of my London stay.

I found out about the PUA community and read the book "The Game" only somewhere at the end of 2010 and the beginning of 2011. And, I am now 39.

So, I just want to cheer you up and tell you that you are not too late to improve your game. Feel free to read my true London story below. I hope it lifts you up in one way or another.

Finally, I can understand you because I was also a shy and introvert guy for years.

Bruno

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I like the way you put it as the beginning of a journey. I've only been aware of the PUA community and this website for a couple weeks and I have noticed a huge improvement in my game (namely that I'm starting to have some and wanting to improve) I really need the help and its an awesome resource for a real discussion of relationships and attraction.


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Thanks everyone ! It really helps having the support from others.

I'm not going to lie, you have pretty much guessed the type of guy who I am. Semi-introverted, avoids confrontations and tries to get along with everyone.

I really don't want to lose who I am through this PUA training, but there are elements of myself which I really do need to change for the better. I suppose through discussing with others who are on this journey will provide invaluable insight. Since everyone are on different stages of this growth, and you lot can help me through sharing the experiences who have gone through and telling me where to step. Hopefully one day i can do the same haha.

I think right now I just need to read The Game and perhaps try some basic interactions with strangers, maybe asking for directions or even striking up a conversation with random passengers on the train about the weather etc. I feel confidence training is an area that will be very tough indeed.

Did you all start training on your own or did you find someone who was in a similar position to yourselves ?

R


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Thanks everyone ! It really helps having the support from others.

I'm not going to lie, you have pretty much guessed the type of guy who I am. Semi-introverted, avoids confrontations and tries to get along with everyone.

I really don't want to lose who I am through this PUA training, but there are elements of myself which I really do need to change for the better. I suppose through discussing with others who are on this journey will provide invaluable insight. Since everyone are on different stages of this growth, and you lot can help me through sharing the experiences who have gone through and telling me where to step. Hopefully one day i can do the same haha.

I think right now I just need to read The Game and perhaps try some basic interactions with strangers, maybe asking for directions or even striking up a conversation with random passengers on the train about the weather etc. I feel confidence training is an area that will be very tough indeed.

Did you all start training on your own or did you find someone who was in a similar position to yourselves ?

R

Hey R,

I really love when you've said "I really don't want to lose who I am through this PUA training" because you should never ever lose who you are no matter what you do in your life. You know why.

Because only when you are being yourself, you can unleash and be your BEST. And, trust me what I am now going to tell you. To unleash your best in effortlessly sexually attracting and picking up hot women, you don't need to memorize any openers, you don't need to memorize any pick up lines and you don't actually need to bother memorizing any pick up guru's tactics or techniques.

Man, ALL you really need to do to be able to unleash your best in meeting and attracting hot women is to do the following. Before you head through that door to go out to meet women, JUST TOTALLY FORGET about approaching let alone picking up ANY woman.

TOTALLY EMPTY YOUR MIND by deciding that you are not going to approach and pick up ANY woman at all. In other words, decide that you are going to have NO intention to approach ANY woman. WHY?

Because this will INSTANTLY RELAX YOUR BRAIN and INSTANTLY HELP YOU GET RID OF ANY APPROACH ANXIETY and ANY FEARS of approaching women in a VERY NATURAL WAY. And, this WORKS because you are not going to bother about WINNING or LOSING ANY WOMAN.

I know that what I've just said to you could at first look like a joke. But man, trust me, this is NO JOKE at all because this shit ABSOLUTELY WORKS. And, you know who I've learned this stuff from.

I've learned it from Bruce Lee. Yes, it's Bruce Lee. Anyway, the funny thing is that what I've learned from Bruce Lee in relation to unleashing my best for effortlessly sexually attracting hot women has nothing directly to do with martial arts as somebody might think at first.

The way Bruce Lee has helped me to finally feel and fully enjoy my best in effortlessly picking up hot women is through his extremely powerful and super inspirational quotes on personal growth and success.

Now, let me share with you something that I am convinced you are going to love me for because it's not only going to help you BE YOURSELF and BE YOUR BEST when meeting women BUT ALSO is it going to help you BOOST YOUR CONFIDENCE.

In other words, man, trust me, when you use the two steps that I am about to share with you, you are going to start laughing with your greatest excitement when you realize and witness YOUR OWN BEST ABILITY to effortlessly sexually attract hot women with NO approach anxiety, NO fears, NO friend zone, NO need for you to memorize any openers or pick up lines and actually with NO need for you to memorize ANY words at all.

I guess that you won't be able to learn this stuff at any pick up bootcamps because the bootcamps' training is usually designed to get you to approach as many women as possible during that training. And, here is the opposite to that. Because what can REALLY help you uncover, feel, use and enjoy YOUR VERY BEST with effortlessly picking up women is the way of GOING OUT WITH NO INTENTION TO APPROACH LET ALONE PICK UP ANY WOMAN AT ALL.

Man, this stuff WORKS and could well be the secret to not only YOUR AMAZING SUCCESSES WITH WOMEN BUT ALSO IN LIFE IN GENERAL. I hope that you now feel that what I am writing to you, I am writing to you WITH MY GREATEST PASSION and MY GREATEST DESIRE TO HELP YOU SUCCEED IN LIFE.

Here's the link to the forum post (find my reply to King Bandit) where you can learn how exactly you can unleash your best with effortlessly sexually attracting hot women:
completely-new-to-the-pua-scene-vt161756.html

By the way, if you want to get my full free report on the subject of being yourself and being your best when effortlessly picking up hot women, I suggest that you send me a PM (private message) and I will then give you the link to that full free report where I am going into much more detail.

If you want me to directly help you boost your confidence with women in the field, I am happy to come to meet you in person and be your one-on-one coach for as long as it takes for you to get that confidence handled.

By the way, your confidence is all about your ability to get out of your daily comfort zones. And, I can now confidently tell you that overcoming daily comfort zones is almost my second nature because I have been overcoming my daily comfort zones through...

-> randomly approaching thousands of unknown people day in day out while working in direct sales jobs (my best direct sales job was selling paintball tickets on the street, at shopping malls, at student campuses and by knocking households' and companies doors) in London, UK for 10 years

-> randomly approaching many women and girls and picking up their phone numbers with ease in both Croatia and the UK for over 10 years

-> confidently entering restaurants, bakeries, patisseries and pizza shops to ask for and successfully get free food when being dead broke for the last 3 years (NOTE: I was even successfully stealing bananas from my local supermarkets when I didn't have any money for food for months. But don't worry, I am not a thief and I am not going to teach you to become one if you don't want. hahaha)

NOTE: I have lately gone even beyond my doubts and my limiting beliefs and made an experiement when getting free food. Here's what I've done.

A few months ago, I was dressed down almost looking like a beggar or a homeless guy when I entered one of the most glamorous patisseries in my city's center. I went in there, did my introduction and my rapport building thing and easily got a nice cake absolutely for free from a female shop assistant.

One month later (very recently), I was dressed up like an office worker. I was wearing a suit because I decided to go out to take some photos with me standing in the middle of some hot girls and women on the street. Because I wanted to use these photos for my new facebook fan page about effortlessly sexually attracting hot women.

And, while I was walking down the street, I suddenly started thinking like this:

"I am not quite sure that if I now enter the same glamorous patisserie the way I did a month ago, I am going to get a nice cake for free again if I boldly ask for it. BECAUSE the shop assistant may not take my request for a free cake seriously BECAUSE I am not dressed down as a homeless guy BUT as an office worker wearing a suit now. So, WHAT IF I try to do it anyway while I am now wearing this f**king suit?"

Guess what. I said to myself: "What the f**k, I am going to JUST DO IT!"

And, man, I did it and got a nice cake absolutely free of charge again. :)

NOTE: Later on the same day, when I got very hungry after having approached and talked to so many hot women and girls mostly sitting at the tables with a group of their male and female friends at many different outdoor restaurants because it was a beautiful sunny day (remember I was asking them to take a photo with me), I boldly went to a posh sandwich and kebab bar, I asked the shop assistant and the shop keeper to give me a piece of free food.

Guess what. I got one of the most beautifully prepared kebab sandwiches that I've ever eaten in my entire life ABSOLUTELY FOR FREE.

IMPORTANT two questions for you:

1. You know how I mostly feel immediately before I ask random people from the street or in shops to give me free food or money?

My answer: I naturally feel frightened and shy. Or, I at least have a stage-fright.

2. You know how I feel immediately after I've got some free food and money from random unknown people that I've just boldly approached and directly asked them to give me free food and money?

My answer: I feel ABSOLUTELY GREAT. I LOVE myself for succeeding in getting what I want. I feel EXTREMELY PROUD of myself because I DID IT.

Another question for you: "Do you think that if you are very good at getting free food and money from strangers from the street and shops day in day out, you can also be equally good at confidently approaching your desired women and getting whatever you want to get from them and wherever and whenever you want it?

Yeah, I hear you. Man, of course, YOU CAN. :) Because the whole f**king world is entirely YOURS up for grabs if you like to put it this way.

Or, you can also say: "Only the sky is the limit."

By the way, the latter I've learned from working in direct sales for years, where my managers used to tell me to make me more money-motivated or money-driven:

"Only the sky is the limit to how much money you can earn."

-> fearlessly stopping people directly on the street and also going from table to table at many different restaurants and boldly asking people to give me money.

And, guess what. I managed to collect about 200 dollars directly from people from the street within only 5-7 days because I've mastered the skill of influencing people into easily giving me things. Because I am very good at opening up conversation and building a rapport with complete strangers before I get something from them.

-> stealthily sneaking into many different hotels' business centres to use their computers for getting on the internet during the time when I had NO internet connection installed at home because I had NO money to pay for it. Here I used my well developed skill of by-passing or passing by gatekeepers (for example, hotel receptionists) in order to get in there. ;) By the way, I've learned the skill in direct sales when going door to door to sell things.

Guess what. Quite a few times, I even stayed at one of these hotels' business centres over night. And, it's not everything. Not only was I able to use the computers, the printer and get on the internet when studying the internet marketing stuff but also was I able to pick up and eat succulent big green apples from a big basket placed on a table in the same room whenever I got hungry all night long if I wanted. hahaha

You know I like to describe some of my adventures like this one where I was skilfully sneaking into these hotels as the kind of brave James Bond style missions. ;) Because let's face it. I wasn't feeling totally comfortable sitting at the computer inside the hotel where I never paid to stay at for one whole night.

-> fearlessly approaching many different women and girls while they were accompanied by another man (whether it be their male friend or their boyfriend) or while they were accompanied with a group of their male and female friends

NOTE: I have lately gone even further when challenging by directly approaching my desired women while they were obviously with their boyfriends. A few days ago, I was walking down the street and there was a couple (a boyfriend and a girlfriend) walking about 20 meters ahead of me. I obviously couldn't see her face but what I could clearly see and FOCUS my attention on was her beautifully shaped ass that was dancing below a pair of attractive white pants that I could also see through and realize she didn't have any panties on.

Guess what. Despite the fact that they both really looked like a boyfriend and a girlfriend walking together in front of me, I said to myself: What the f**k, I am going to boldly approach this hottie and directly tell her that how beautifully shaped ass she has.

And, I DID.

You now might be wondering how badly her boyfriend beat me up and what kind of disaster and damage happened to me there as the result of my action.

Man, NO disaster and NO damage happened to me at all. :)

In fact, her boyfriend like many other boyfriends of the girls I approached in the past DIDN'T SAY A WORD to me let alone threatened me. You know why?

Because the action of YOUR BOLD CONFIDENCE approaching the girl in the situation where she is with him makes him almost shit scared of you.

And, you know how the girl reacted? Man, she made my day by giving me a very beautiful, natural smile while at the same time thanking me for the compliment.

So, the way I did it is as simple as this. I first said to her: "Wow! How beautifully shaped ass you've got." (I gave her a sweet smile while saying so). Then, after she thanked me for my compliment, I asked her: "So, how you two know each other?" And, she said to me with a smile:"He's my boyfriend."

What did I do then? I said: "Okay. Sorry for the interruption". And, I just moved on. Man, it's that simple.

-> lying down on the pavement or the sidewalk during the rush hour (lunch time) in the busiest parts of my city's center when thousands of people are circulating and running around you like bees. By the way, this was part of Tim Ferriss' exercises and tips for boosting your confidence that I have learned from my favorite book "Four Hour Work Week".

A question for you: Do you think that there are many people and many guys worldwide who either boldly ask for free food and money when being dead broke or boldly approach their desired girls while these girls are accompanied with their boyfriends?

Of course, there are not many folks like that. You know why.

Because people are generally scared to overcome their comfort zones by doing something new or something different that at first might look scary or extremely uncomfortable because they believe if they try to do it, a BIG DAMAGE is going to happen to them.

And, the truth of the matter is that most of the time NO BIG DAMAGES and NO DISASTERS ever happen.

Another two questions for you:

1. "Do you know what Tim Ferriss in his book 'Four Hour Work Week' wants to tell us when he says that it's easier for you to get to make $10 million than just $1 million?"

2. "Would you know why it could be much easier for you to pick up the hottest woman in the room than the less hot woman in the same room?"

Well, I hope that by now you realize that making $10 millions and picking up the hottest woman in the room could be easier than making only $1 million and picking up the less hot woman because of the fact there is almost no competition for you in grabbing these bigger rewards.

And, you remember when I've earleir told you my story about approaching that couple from behind. You may or may not have heard some pickup gurus saying something like there's no way that you could be very successful at picking up a hot woman immediately after you've approached her from behind.

Guess what. A couple of years ago, I was walking by a restaurant where I saw an extremely hot woman walking about 10 meters ahead of me after she'd just left her friends at the restaurant. She was as hot as HB9 or HB10 if you like to know, and she was wearing a pair of tight leather pants like the ones you could see on many rock stars.

She actually reminded me of a stripper. At first, I had a huge fear of approaching her from behind.

Anyway, immediately before she got into her car at the nearby parking place, I said to myself: "What the f**k, I'm going to just do it."

And, man, just before she shut her car's driver's door and started the engine, I shouted: "Sorry, you are reminding me of a stripper." And, then I quckly made up a couple of questions related to strip clubs and then song-writing after she'd told me that she was a song writer.

Guess what. At the end of that 5-6 minute long chat, I got both her cell phone number and also kissed her two times at the very end of each side of her lips.

The bottom line of all my above successful approaches is that my FOCUS on what really attracted me in each of these women (for example, her ass or her legs) and then just sharing it with her with confidence.

In other words, what's important to point out behind the success of all these approaches is you being CONGRUENT with what you really feel that's how exactly you feel about the woman you are approaching RIGHT NOW and RIGHT THERE.

Because if you don't say the truth to her on why you are approaching her, you still may be successful at getting her phone number and even her sweet kiss at the end of your conversation BUT the risk is that you may soon end up in that frustrating friend zone and that you never get what you really wanted to get from her in the first place because you shyly hid or suppressed your real sexual feelings about her the first time you met her.


IMPORTANT NOTE: Please, feel free to use any of the above exercises for boosting your own confidence at your own discretion and your own responsibility BUT make sure that you don't get into the habit of doing them for a long time or every day because they are just exercises to help you become more confident in life.

REMEMBER: It's scientifically proven that it takes only 21-28 days for you to adopt a new habit (whether it be a good habit or a bad one) if you start doing it every single day during these 21-28 days. So, be careful what kind of habits you get into because you are always responsible for whatever you do in your life.

What you could also do as a confidence boosting exercise is that you could boldly approach a hot female driver of the car stuck in the queue of other cars waiting for the green light at the traffic lights, for example. Just an idea. ;) By the way, I have done it before and it could be a lot of fun and boosting your confidence at the same time. :)

Have loads of fun and reap amazing successes out there!

Bruno

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PostPosted: Tue May 07, 2013 8:05 pm 
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Hey Bruno,

Thanks for the very in depth answer, hahah it was an excellent read and you gave me alot to think about,

I feel that im always worred and anxious when approaching random strangers let alone beautiful women. Today I did set off to atleast greet 5 strangers, but unfortunately it didn't end well =( i just hoped on the tube home without making any effort. I have to promise myself tomorrow il go out and actually talk to someone.

Also, there was a very pretty asian girl who sat near me while i was eating lunch in this japanese place. After reading your post, I feel gutted for having let her passby. She looked at me several times and i'm not sure if she wanted to say something, but i just let the moment SLIP =(. So yeah I have to grow , perhaps I need to find someone in London who will be able to push out there.

Just wondering Burno, you seem like a guy with alot of experience haha , where are you based right now ?

Also i can't believe you got given free stuff hahaha, thats amazing , its seem having a more attractice personality can really take you far in life. I really do need to work on improving every aspect of my life. I have started doing some fitness training and buying some better outfits, but i suppose the real thing that needs to start changing is me.

Tomorrow il make sure I atleast talk to 3 random strangers as I need to build my confidence, but its hard doing it on your own. But i feel there's no other way.

Thanks alot for your help Bruno , Also, i would like it if you could send that free report if you have some time too .

Cheers

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Hey Bruno,

Thanks for the very in depth answer, hahah it was an excellent read and you gave me alot to think about,

I feel that im always worred and anxious when approaching random strangers let alone beautiful women. Today I did set off to atleast greet 5 strangers, but unfortunately it didn't end well =( i just hoped on the tube home without making any effort. I have to promise myself tomorrow il go out and actually talk to someone.

Also, there was a very pretty asian girl who sat near me while i was eating lunch in this japanese place. After reading your post, I feel gutted for having let her passby. She looked at me several times and i'm not sure if she wanted to say something, but i just let the moment SLIP =(. So yeah I have to grow , perhaps I need to find someone in London who will be able to push out there.

Just wondering Burno, you seem like a guy with alot of experience haha , where are you based right now ?

Also i can't believe you got given free stuff hahaha, thats amazing , its seem having a more attractice personality can really take you far in life. I really do need to work on improving every aspect of my life. I have started doing some fitness training and buying some better outfits, but i suppose the real thing that needs to start changing is me.

Tomorrow il make sure I atleast talk to 3 random strangers as I need to build my confidence, but its hard doing it on your own. But i feel there's no other way.

Thanks alot for your help Bruno , Also, i would like it if you could send that free report if you have some time too .

Cheers

R
Hey R,

I am very glad that you've enjoyed reading my earlier post because it really means a lot to me when I see that my own experiences can actually help and benefit somebody.

Thanks a lot for openly sharing your latest events of meeting women. You definitely have the will and the desire to succeed and you will succeed because you've got a very positive and clear thinking about your experiences and your goals in the area of meeting and picking up women.

I like when you've said that you should start changing yourself more than focusing your attention on other things like buying new outfits and doing the fitness training. Because by changing yourself first, you're soon going to get onto the fasttrack to achieving your most amazing successes in life.

So, man, as you could realize by now I am here to help you improve every aspect of your life based on my own experinces and expertize in both picking up women and also in the field of personal growth.

By the way, I'm based in Croatia right now and would really love to do some travelling and possibly turn it into a very fun hobby through which I could meet many more women in my life.

Anyway, before you and I meet in person and perhaps go hunting some hot women together in London or in Croatia or elsewhere, I think that I now have a cool idea for us to start working together that you may like very much.

Later on today, I am going to send you a PM (private message) where I am going to share with you both my idea and also my free report on your request.

Talk to you soon,

Bruno

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