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PostPosted: Wed May 01, 2013 6:03 am 
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One of the chicks Im talking to, wanted to fly me to her state. We talked everyday. Called, phone sex, etc. She texted like crazy and I answered all the texts.

Slowly, it felt the sexual spark wasnt there. It started in sexual lovey dovey mode, to "well maybe you can stay here for a few days :)" to "we cant because my job situation sucks right now."

I wonder if its a legit reason or if its just BS. She still texts me like crazy and says im "funny and sweet" to talk to. Yuck. I have been keeping it to one text a day now. Today she said she wanted to tell me about how her day went. I rolled my eyes when I saw that text. Not sure if I wanna call her.




- 1. Friendzone or just a result of the situation?- Cant tell if shes just that kind of girl that talks that way to her friends or if she's still interested?

- 2. Is it normal to fall into this slump of attraction after sexual stuff?? - We still keep phone sexing, but its not as crazy as it used to be.

I know when you start getting into the friendzone just pull away. But what if she's not friendzoning me? I dont wanna ignore her too much and lose what could have been a good thing.


- 3. Skyping? Someone mentioned to take it another step and get into Skyping with her. I SPAM her once, but nothing sexual. Do you think doing that successfully would make her wanna see me?

- 4. New advantage - I just found out a relative is flying out to that state and asked me to go with him. Obviously a godsent bonus but.... that doesnt solidfy that she'll meet up if I eventually lead myself into friendzone. Is it smart not to mention this until I see where I stand with her?

- 5. Be harsh? - Another person told me, just ignore her and when she asks "Why arent you calling me?," that I should reply with "It's just hard to talk to someone I know I'll never meet." Idk if that's too harsh or if that will make the subject a big burden everytime its brought up.





Just to be perfectly clear, I am gaming other women and getting numbers. Its just a girl who flies you out like that, you'll never forget those kind of pua memories!


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PostPosted: Wed May 01, 2013 6:34 am 
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I wonder if its a legit reason or if its just BS. She still texts me like crazy and says im "funny and sweet" to talk to. Yuck. I have been keeping it to one text a day now. Today she said she wanted to tell me about how her day went.
Sounds like she’s trying to buy time. I definitely would have come up with a much better reason though.
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- 1. Friendzone or just a result of the situation?- Cant tell if shes just that kind of girl that talks that way to her friends or if she's still interested?
Since you are still gaming girls and keeping yourself busy, who cares? I mean, I understand you are into this girl and hope it leads somewhere, but isn’t this a great situation? Understanding how women work and becoming the alpha male you want to be is exactly what creates situations where you get OPTIONS, most people don’t have that luxury. You get to see where you stand with her WHILE acting on your other options, embrace this!
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- 2. Is it normal to fall into this slump of attraction after sexual stuff?? - We still keep phone sexing, but its not as crazy as it used to be.
The sex talk means there is attraction. Let’s just get that straight. Would you send any kind of sexual text towards a girl you have no interest in fucking? Unless you are a narcissistic douche, no right? However, its always possible she’s into you BECAUSE you are out of state and its convenient. But she wants to fly you in, so that last sentence is illogical…but it is a woman so keep your guard up at least high enough to protect your balls.
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- 3. Skyping? Someone mentioned to take it another step and get into Skyping with her. I SPAM her once, but nothing sexual. Do you think doing that successfully would make her wanna see me?
This is tough one, I’m not sure where SPAM works within a gaming strategy yet. But just like calling somebody on the phone, I think its important to keep it short and sweet so it doesn’t look like your just waiting around at home to SPAM her.
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- 4. New advantage - I just found out a relative is flying out to that state and asked me to go with him. Obviously a godsent bonus but.... that doesnt solidfy that she'll meet up if I eventually lead myself into friendzone. Is it smart not to mention this until I see where I stand with her?
This is pretty simple isn’t it?

She wants to meet up: Good
She doesn’t: Bad

If she wants to see you, she WILL make time. Just like you would if she was in town.

While most situations have a lot of factors/circumstances, that doesn’t mean you have to accept that its complicated. Try to keep it black & white as possible, for your benefit more than others. You can always tell how people feel based on their ACTIONS.

So, if you ask to meet up, there are only 2 answers. Ok, 4.

1. Yes
2. No
3. No, I made a spa appointment, sorry (or any other shitty excuse)
4. No, but I’m so sad I’m going to miss you while you’re here, how about (alternative date etc.)?

Obviously, if she says no with no reason or alternative date, then let it go and move on. If she agrees to see you, assume its because she’s into you. If you find out its more friendzony when you see her, get the hell outta there.
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- 5. Be harsh? - Another person told me, just ignore her and when she asks "Why arent you calling me?," that I should reply with "It's just hard to talk to someone I know I'll never meet." Idk if that's too harsh or if that will make the subject a big burden everytime its brought up.
No, don’t say some weak shit like that. Whoever gave you that advice needs to get his vagina checked out. Don’t show her that you are affected negatively by a soft subject like this (at least until you actually start dating her).


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PostPosted: Fri May 03, 2013 8:00 pm 
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@RiRi

Thank you for that healthy response! I was expecting something like "bro you gots oneitis GFTOW." Thing is: you have to have decent game to get here in the first place, I am talking to lots of other girls and enjoying it, AND I'm just enjoying the experience.

You're right. My other friends said "just enjoy it." I realize no matter what, this was all a success. Even if she never talks to me ever again, she brought my inner pua out of hibernation. She gave me confidence and already Im using it to talk to other women, get my life straightened out, and more.

I respect the distance and if it doesnt turn out oh well. But Im still going to give it my best shot!
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PostPosted: Fri May 03, 2013 8:08 pm 
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1. It happened. She started mentioning other guys she has crushes on. (BAD, worst that ever happened in this interaction.) However even though it hurt in the moment, I remembered being in this situation before and how to recover. You dont let her get away with that, without doing some takeaways and then mentioning other girls.

Im good at hiding my emotions. I didn't show any jealousy and on the phone said, "Yawn... are we really gunna do this? Oh god first you're telling me about your day and now I'm just one of your girlfriends? Cant you tell them about your day? Boring! ;)" Done with a cocky and fun smile. She understood right away that it was a mistake.


2. Maybe She Did This because: I told her about other girls I was seeing the week before. (I did that because she mentioned other guys talking to her last week and I shared my own story.) There's a chance she woulda told me about these new crushes regardless if I told her about talking to other girls.


3. The Good Parts: After that harsh blow, the good stuff happened. I got the attraction up and she mentioned me going over to where she lives again. Days before, I was getting the feeling she had gone back on her word and was making excuses. Turns out the other day, she looked up plane, train, and travel prices. So she might be serious.


4. Recovery I ran my game, let her know I was busy, did a few disqualifiers to properly "punish" her. I dont mean it in a harsh way. But there was a good understanding that we wont tell each other about other people we're seeing. I think it worked because even today, she mentioned what it'd be like with me and her getting crazy over there in her state.


5. SPAM Issue: I hinted at SPAM and she got super thrilled about that. I actually dont wanna SPAM her for cam sex. It's more to solidify the eventual meet up. I gotta space this out. Maybe only SPAM her after I tell her about the surprise.


6. The Surprise: Told her I had a surprise. She was begging for me to tell her. I said "Oh its a good one." I didnt tell her what it was , but mentioned that we'll see how things go and maybe I'll tell her. The surprise was that I can travel to escort a relative.... back to the same state this girl is from! I know if I told her this, it would significantly help my chances of solidifying the meet up... BUT I do truly want to only mention it only when the time is right.


7. Recovery 2I forget what I said. I put an idea in her head, that the real reason I called was to possibly tell her we cant do this anymore. BIG disqualifier, and I didnt mean an ounce of it, but after getting smacked with that kind of behavior, you have to create some tension and let her know you're not that easy. I was very ambiguous though. It worked as she's giving me more attention. She kept saying, if I never want to see her again tell her now, so she can start to heal from it. Sounds like she's trying to qualify, but she's one of those "nice girl fronts." Maybe she was saying that to indirectly hint at her being ok to end it. Maybe Im being to self conscious about it.




Other things:
She reminds me of my worst ex's and is not really my preferred type. Which is good! Because it brought me to the point where, if it doesnt happen.... I'll be ok. Im going to try either way and see how far it can go.

Advice and input on any of these issues would be great!


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