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Everything you need to know about looks and what women want, from body to facial hair, look how we are all clueless about look and no women do not like xyzz or whatever his name is:
http://foxhoundstudio.com/blog/fitness- ... ant-to-be/
I believe eastwick and finkel did a study in 2008 that was published in the journal of personality and social psychology labelled ''sex differences in mate preferences revisited''
the study basically concluded that women more or less select men along similar criteria that men select women and that women are either prone to lieing about what they want in a partner or possibly are actually not aware of what they want themselves
basically, attraction is subjective but most people find the same things attractive, health, access to resources and chemistry
here is a chart that represented the data,
I bring this up because zyzz is used as an example here as what women don't want and what men aspire to look like... but comparing brad pitt to zyzz is like comparing elisha cuthbert against jessica alba
zyzz as most miscers know (the misc and youtube is where he gained internet fame) he was absolutely rolling in women, everywhere he was going he would get harassed by women and on bb.com, he claimed he had girlfriends when he was skinny but had girl problems and was made fun of by his first serious girlfriend and it made him feel self conscious and after getting dumped it was one of the main reasons he started lifting (but after a long road of dedication it stopped being about girls) he claimed he had to work really hard just to get dates with average girls, and after he started lifting and got on some gear he felt almost as if he had to do absolutely nothing, he is now the #1 inspirational bodyspace on bodybuilding.com
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here are some youtube clips showing how women do not like zyzz (I know one was already posted before ITT)
and thinking it was his personality, once again wishful thinking, it really didn't matter what he said or did, the answer was yes, he proved this in plenty of troll threads on misc
there was plenty more trolling then this for the misc, but he basically proved that it didn't even matter what he said or did, he went to extremes to troll girls being overly rude and insulting all the way to being overly nice and sensitive to being cocky, didn't matter if it was sweet heavenly blessed beauty or ganga slut, it was pretty simple for him, zyzz was obviously the son of zeus, god of aesthetics, brother of hercules
also, 220lbs @8% body fat being 6ft 2, is pretty damn healthy, that is optimum body composition and it is why the 1.6-1 ratio is so aesthetic, it is aesthetic because it implies fitness, but fitness and health are not the same, it was not a sub 10% body fat that killed zyzz, it was drug abuse and a pre-existing heart condition
having fitness model like proportions with unbelievable symmetry to the point where you get famous for it is not ''unnatural looking to the point of being ugly''
that would imply the inverse for women
christina halkiopoulos here as seen above is basically the female equivalent to zyzz, maybe some guys find that ''too fit'' and think it's so unnatural that she puts so much effort into fitness that it makes her look too buff, but plenty of guys can appreciate the dedication she put into her body to reach optimum aesthetic proportions according to fitness/body building standards
with all this being said, it's great to keep in shape, and you shouldn't listen to what girls say either negative or positive, what is important is that you work hard to take care of yourself and you find yourself attractive, I know a few guys who are fairly attractive but have not really worked on their confidence who get all the obvious signs in the world but are insecure due to a fear of rejection (even when it is blatantly obvious that girls are interested in them and just as scared of rejection)
when they do talk to girls (pretty much 100% through social circle as it's damn near impossible to get them to come out clubbing to meet random girls) they meet a girl here and there and get oneitis then they can't move on and meet new girls and waste months and months on the same girls and when it all doesn't work out in the end, it lowers their self esteem, and if they just talked to more girls and stopped being so damn attached to getting it in with the 1 girl that approached them and just put them selves out there and desensitized themselves to approaching, instead of needing the ice broken some other way, they would have plenty of sexual choice
I have met one guy in particular who I used to work with who is actually quite physically unattractive but is completely oblivious to outside opinions and is really social and fun to be around and secure, he hasn't had the best looking girlfriends or anything since I've met him but he still manages to meet women while some guys I know go ages with a dry spells just because they are too shy to even give more then 1 or 2 girls a shot a year, if they get rejected up front it kills their self esteem and they become even more shy as a result
you just have to work on yourself so you know you are good enough and truly believe it, you don't have to look like zyzz to get girls, but saying looks don't matter or that looking like zyzz is a negative is just wishful thinking, keep in shape and meet some girls and don't worry about it so much unless you are really unhealthy or have an extreme social phobia
and even then... it is still possible for you to find girls, there are girls out there for everyone, just like guys some girls like them fit, some like them tall, some like them chubby, some like them short, some like them round, some like them curvy, some like blondes, some like brunettes, same deal with guys, not every guy thinks the same girls are the most attractive, some guys have a bbw fetish and think anything besides excessively obese is unattractive
there really is no black and white when it comes to dating, it's like a giant grey area and social norms play a huge part, for example being fit is a much bigger plus in north america since there are more people who are not fit, how ever hit up some secluded tribe in the rainforests and it is overweight people who are the most sought after, most people just want what is perceived valuable or scarce and in demand, if you want to pick up girls... just be the exception to the mass crowd of men that are also trying to pick up girls, figure out how to display your strengths and improve yourself
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