yea I'm actually from London but you know how uptight everyone pretends to be over here! to be honest I'm pretty comfortable with speaking about sex with girls, it's just that particular one seemed just a little much... just in the wording really. Guess i should have been less lazy and edited it myself and play for keeps instead of that half-arsed piece of bullshit i came up with. I know I'll see her about on a night out at some point so I know I can pounce on her there if all fails!

ah well - we live and learn...

The English women I've met can be pretty damn naughty... they might pretend to be "stiff upper lip" and all that, but they know how to get raunchy when they think their neighbors aren't looking. One Brit girl I went out with together with a bunch of friends came up to me in a bar and said "You know, sometimes a girl just wanted to be f*cked". This was back in my AFC days, so I didn't know how to take advantage of this (yeah, sounds incredible, but that's how I was). Another Brit girl wanted coke and a quick f*ck. I don't do coke, but had I known better I would have taken the sex.

Try asking your female friends about spanking, and their sexual fantasies in general. You might be surprised at how lewd some of your fellow countrywomen are!

Cheers, ~50

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Haha you couldn't be more right mate, I know loads of girls that are absolute freaks in the bedroom but you'd never know it looking at them. I don't think it's ever a problem of a girl thinking you are total weirdo stalker creep but I do think you need to make sure that it's something she feels comfortable talking about with YOU.

I do also sometimes get concerned that my game resulting from the advice i get on here sticks out as too unusual to fit in with what I might ordinarily be expected to do in a given situation. This results in self-doubts like "if I got this far with my own current game, maybe on this particular girl I should stick with my instincts or it might all fuck up because of something that didn't feel right in the first place!". Thats probably just me justifying staying in my comfort zone and maybe I should just be more gutsy.

When starting out (or even at mid-stages of PU) do most people only use the methods that seem right to them or do most people go through a period of using things that they're not quite sure about/comfortable with until they absorb it and it becomes natural?

Send the text 50ShadesOfDance posted. If you offend her just use this it should work most of the time.

"Ooo I didn’t hurt your feelings did I? Ok you get one spank and that’s it… ok two, but that’s my final offer"

yours was a good text, i liked it.

personally, the way i am, i wouldn't be able to send a text about spanking but simply because it wouldn't feel very me. i'll only send something i feel comfortable sending so i can remain congruent, as if i don't get the reaction i expected and i wasn't 100% comfortable in saying something i will probably fuck up in my response as it won't be coming from a centered person.
but if people/you feel comfortable sending then i'm sure it's a damn good line to use as it'll flow naturally.

Good point, you've got to be congruent. I've become a lot more openly sexual in my interactions with women, just because I love how naughty girls can be when they're flirting. And I like getting a girl really hot for sex just by texting her. But this is just my style... if you've identified yours, go with it, and be cocky and funny about it!

Cheers, ~50

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Haha yea that's pretty much what I was trying to say... you're explanation is absolutely on the money. I think you're right about being openly sexual with women, and I do habe this relationship with some - but I think you nee to do this right from the beginning.

Luckily though I think I've managed to steer things with this girl back into that sexual territory...

She sent me this random message today "Congrats on the Job!!! nice one - what is it? Xx" (I'd put up a post on FB about the job offer i just got)

so I replied "Danke! its at (insert job)... gonna be hard work but I'm ready for world domination! How's your hunt going? you're looking for a job in porn, right? X"

she sent back "How dare you, if i was the porn industry I'd've been employed weeks ago! Xxx"

I think this is a step in the right direction.

possible replies? here's what I've got:
1) "That's probably true you naughty girl/devil. it's not too late you know... I could help you practice "
2) "Oh a bit cocky are we? I'm gonna need more evidence to make a judgement for myself "

how do those look? any other ideas?!

Thanks e'rbody

#2

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Definitely #2. You want to tease her with your sexuality, not let it out into the open until you're ready to take her clothes off.

Cheers, ~50

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Ok so I followed both of your advice and sent option #2

we shall see...

#2 is top dollar

This is exactly what I would go with.