If you want to skip all the crap below here's the short version: I'm mid-game with an HB8 (after f-closing) who, my friends report, says i'm great in the sack but it has now been 2 days with no response (for the second time) since i last texted her. what the hell?

Background:

I've known this girl for a couple of years but never saw much of her- met at uni when she had a BF and always got on. saw her again on a night out about 8 months ago and she asked me 'weird question but, can I kiss you?'. So, K-closed (well... she did anyway) but didn't do anything more that night and left it there.
She dropped me an FB message the other day asking how I am so I replied saying we'll go for a drink and that I'll drop her a text. I text a few days later and we arrange to meet with a couple of other people at a mutual friend's house before hitting some bars.

This all looks like pretty good evidence she's interested/attracted.

So we end up meeting last Wednesday and the night ends in an F-close with us both staying the night on our friend's couch (i know... charming). We part ways in the morning after a nice long goodbye kiss (again, positive signs).
I texted her on the way home - here is the conversation from there:

ME: Mmmm...Garlic xxx in-joke from night before
-1 hour-
HB: it's everywhere x
-1.5 hours-
HB: Definitely some light bruising appearing...let's hope Daddy doesn't notice xx
-1.5 hours-
ME: Oh no really?! Bollocks - sorry! Was really fun to see you again tho and I hope you'll let me cook you a terrible dinner some time soon xxx
-7 hours-
HB: it was very fun to see you too... I enjoyed getting the bruises. It sort of depends, how terrible are we talking? xxx
-2 hours-
ME: Actually I went on a cooking course recently so it could be edible after all... then again, paying someone else to cook might be the safer bet. I hope I didn't go over the top last night? Memory is somewhat hazy haha xxx
-next day-
HB: No not over the top, full power! Cooking course ey... what's your best dish? xxx
-1 hour-
ME: I've been told my beef bourguignon and minestrone soup are fairly innoffensive but I also make a mean salad dressing... you're spoilt for choice really. You around next Weds or Thurs?
-2 days -
HB: I'm actually not I'm afraid - booked up next week already somehow. Oh my god I've just been stuck in a tunnel for an hour and half on the train. Claustrophobic and hungover - TERRIBLE combination. X
-7 hours-
ME: Yea I've spent the day suffering a mean hangover too... not on a train tho so you win. Now nursing a medicinal pint in the pub garden. Mmm. What are your plans this weekend? xxx
-2 days -

That last text was on Sunday so it's been 2 days (again) with no response. I know she's not too busy at work cos she just quit her job and some friends of mine reported back that she said I was 'great in bed' and 'well-endowed' (2 great things to hear!) so i know I'm not letting the side down in that department. She also doesn't seem like the game-playing sort so I'm pretty confused as to why she seems to be (slightly) blowing me off.

I want to take her out on a date now (rather than cook) but don't want to be to needy and text again.

I need help sirs!

It's been two days, just re-open her.

My favorite re-open text top two.

1. "pantie check!"

2. "Whatja wearing?"

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What makes you think she is not playing?. Men learn playing tricks from books and experience, to women irs natural fun way of treating/teasing their men of interest! Still i wont go completely on the side of thinking she is playing.
Waiting is neediness, moving is manliness as i use to say, but asking is no harm, sit down with your phone, count 1to10 forward and reverse for a couple times (it helps you lose any preconcieved anxiety in voice) take long deep breath thrice as you dial her number, and do not go around the bush, just ask her you wanna take her out, in terms of negative reply or anything, say her she is lovely and continue complimenting the fact of spending time with her and cut the topic abruptly saying you recieved a text that you got to go catch up some where (make somewhere up) and say you will call her later. AND dont call her. She will text you or call you, if not just dump her and go for some other hot chick!

- I seriously get surprised, how hot girls are so good and great for picking up comparing to these average and below average girls.

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This world is the mirror of your mind, its all about how you treat yourself.

Why did you apologize for caveman fucking her? She told you about the bruises you gave her as a way of saying "Freaking Excellent Fucking you gave me!" and you said "I'm sorry I beat up your little girl parts by fucking the shit out of you". Then she said "I enjoyed getting the bruises".

I think maybe this girl just needed some good loving and you were there to give it to her...Then you started future planning a little too heavily and overly eager. This girl may have been a possible FWB situation if played properly.

Hopefully a lesson learned.


Peace...

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All girl's are Freaks...It is your job to bring it out in them! - Crypto

You need to stop bending over and letting her ass fuck your brain! - Heywood

Agree with those who encourage you to keep texting her. This does NOT have to be needy!

• The "panty check!" idea is great... she already loves sex with you, so play on this
• Send her a couple of cocky/funny texts... "Next time we f*ck I'm only going to do it missionary style--I've just become born again so all that other stuff is off limits!". Or "Hey, it's cute when you don't text me back, 'cos it means you're spending all your time thinking about our next get-together". Or "You've been a bad girl not texting me back... bend over my knee, it's SPANKING TIME!"
• Towards the end of the week, tell her she's coming over/going on a date and specify a time. "You're coming out with me this Saturday at XX:00pm. Dress sexy, I don't want to be hotter than you".

Keep this up on a random basis, don't text too much but don't let the tension die either.

Check it out and let us know how it works... ~50

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Yea I think you're all right and here are the main points i'm going to take away:

1) It was AFC to apologise - essentially for showing her a good time
2) She may have other guys on the go and I need to differentiate myself
2) The game is nowhere near over - i just need to re-open her


I think the best way to do that is, as you've said, to just send her a short cocky-funny message with a bit of a sexual undertone (either that or I call her - but that can always be done after texting has been tried). The suggestions you guys have made are good, although maybe not quite my style.

Does anybody have anymore text suggestions?

Something like this maybe?
- "How are those bruises healing up? "

I also liked "You've been a bad girl not texting me back... bend over my knee, it's SPANKING TIME!" but would be worried if I came off sounding like some weirdo....??

I think if I can send her something that reminds her what a good time she had and put her back into a sexual frame of mind I'll come out with a win. Then comes the hard part... getting her out on a date!

Cheers guys, any help is hugely appreciated

The cocky & funny routines are something that it takes time to learn and really integrate into your personality. When it comes to learning "game" it helps to have the attitude that YOU are more than your external personality, which you can change to gradually reveal your inner self and develop in power and manliness more and more. Your INNER self would have no problem with cocky and funny, if you're like most men... we tend to hold back with women because of what we've been taught, when really what women want is men who are truly inwardly and outwardly liberated.

The "spanking" thing is more advanced text game... believe me, (most) women LOVE being spanked for some reason only God knows how to explain. Don't try to understand it, just use it and have fun.

Cheers, and keep coming back to report on your successes and failures.

~50

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so you're saying it doesn't matter who I or she is or what country/culture we're from, just send that text and it will sound good to every woman in the world? I'm just concerned about doing something I'm not 100% sure about and then have it fail.... i'll be stuck regretting doing something I wasn't sure about to begin with.

I just don't want to come off like some weird sex stalker who thinks she's now his slave because they slept together one time. i know i sound like a pussy bitch but there you go!

thanks again

50 is correct, sex IS the universal language, although I get that some cultures have different (public) views on the subject.

It is the cause of wars, the toppling of country's, the rise and fall of great leaders!

Procreation is what drives us and thrives us, as humans.

We as Men aim to tame that wild beast, to own it. To have it at our bidding.

It is why we are HERE!

And WE as Men spend the first nine months of our very existence, trying to push our way out of a VAGINA.

We spend all of our resources, and the rest of our LIVES trying to GET BACK IN!

Women are aware of this from a very tender young age, BUT it is THEIR job to remain elusive, because, what is treasure, with out the hunt?

Go ahead and send a cocky/sexy/funny message. The risk minimal. The reward, ASTOUNDING!

Heywood.

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Thing is she is friends with a lot of my friends so I can't take as many risks or experiment as much as with a completely random girl. However, I've followed your advice but gone down the middle road....

I ended up sending: "How are those bruises healing up? x"

I can always send one of those "you've been a bad girl not texting back etc" texts if this one doesn't work i guess!

we shall see... watch this space.


either way I think the best thing to do in the mean time is get back out there to dispel what seem to be the beginnings of a case of oneitis!

so you're saying it doesn't matter who I or she is or what country/culture we're from, just send that text and it will sound good to every woman in the world? I'm just concerned about doing something I'm not 100% sure about and then have it fail.... i'll be stuck regretting doing something I wasn't sure about to begin with.

I just don't want to come off like some weird sex stalker who thinks she's now his slave because they slept together one time. i know i sound like a pussy bitch but there you go!

thanks again[/quote]

50 is correct, sex IS the universal language, although I get that some cultures have different (public) views on the subject.

It is the cause of wars, the toppling of country's, the rise and fall of great leaders!

Procreation is what drives us and thrives us, as humans.

We as Men aim to tame that wild beast, to own it. To have it at our bidding.

It is why we are HERE!

And WE as Men spend the first nine months of our very existence, trying to push our way out of a VAGINA.

We spend all of our resources, and the rest of our LIVES trying to GET BACK IN!

Women are aware of this from a very tender young age, BUT it is THEIR job to remain elusive, because, what is treasure, with out the hunt?

Go ahead and send a cocky/sexy/funny message. The risk minimal. The reward, ASTOUNDING!

Heywood.[/quote]


so i sent the text - "how are those bruises healing up? x"

got a reply a couple of hours later saying "rather nicely. they faded pretty quick actually, only one day with scarf. how are you? xx"

not the best response haha.

so i was thinking i have 3 options:
1)freeze her out until she comes back with something better
2) send a short reply but don't answer the question 'how are you' and don't ask any
3) send a reply which tries to get her to talk more?

i'm not really sure how the hell i should play this but i was thiking of just sending "oh dear, I'll have to try harder next time then x"

thoughts? any other suggestions?

cheers!

A step in the right direction

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nice.

what came to my mind was something along the lines of:
a) "well i guess we'll just have to work on making some new ones then"

or if you want to get it moving whilst inferring what you're gonna do when you see her:
bi) "well i guess we'll just have to work on making some new ones then. you around saturday?"
bii) "well i guess we'll just have to work on making some new ones then. you around saturday? "


also, just a side note, you throw in a fuck load of kisses at the end of each text. seems a little excessive to me

The "spanking" text might not work on women from other cultures... although it would work in pretty much all English-speaking ones, in most European ones (I'm thinking Polish culture in particular, but also French and Italian), and in Latin ones as well. Those are the cultures I know best. And I believe that in pretty much all cultures there exists a subculture of more open sexuality and erotic literature, which many women read and often dream about being involved in. So, if you are from a non-Western culture, FIND OUT what this kind of "underground" sexuality is about, and use that knowledge to speak to women sexually in a way that inflames their imagination.

In general, the bolder you are able to become with women (while not becoming a freak, obviously) the more they will enjoy it... it's a huge sexual charge for them to meet a man who is dominant and sexually aware.

Cheers, ~50

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yea the X's are just a relic from my teenage years i guess... you're actually fucking right about that - should not be handing those out lightly!

I really like your suggestions -I already went ahead and sent the one I suggested but I'm actually OK with that since she seems to be acting a liiiittle cold and I've already asked if she's free on a particular day twice so I figure it may be time to sit back and let her do the work. After all, I don't think I've really fucked it up in any way and she obviously enjoyed the night we did spend together so yea, time to let her do some of the pushing. otherwise - move on!