Hi guys

So I thought I should get around to posting up there with a little background into where I am in terms of ‘Game’ and hopefully can get some tips with how to get over some of my main problem areas. I am fairly logical so I will take them step by step:

Inner game:
I defiantly have some self confidence and self esteem issues but I don’t think I am the worst in the world for this I can be pretty confident about things I have been doing for a while e.g. Martial Arts Weight Lifting Running, Computer Games(from a past life) etc. but when it comes anything relating to girls that’s where the problems start(no great surprise given that I am posting here)

Approaching and Opening:
I am 50/50 on whether this is a problem or not I don’t have a problem walking up to someone to ask a question e.g. I can ask the time or even ask where did you get the bag, shoos etc. I wouldn’t sat I was comfortable do this however and groups are a problem.

Conversation:
This I think is 100% my biggest problem when I talk its always the same old boring stuff I can’t switch from my opener to conversation in a smooth way and really awkward silences are the norm. This is where I think I need the most help. I also seem to have 0 ability to project any sort of sexual vibe in conversations with girls and body language is something I have only just started to look into.

Escalation and Kino:
Don’t have much change given the above but this is also something I find hard to try and touch people in a natural none creepy way.

Closing:
0% success rate here but I feel much of that could be the previous steps. I find it hard to ask anyone for their number guys or girls it just feels wrong. Don’t know why.

Other issues:
The other issue I have is that I don’t really have any wingmen to help me get out and do this stuff and push me into things and provide feedback etc. this can lead to me falling into that trap of reading lots and doing little which I don’t want to do.

Hopefully I can get some good advice on here I am searching round and reading stuff that I find all the time so that helps as well.

Thanks

Raven

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Howdy Raven.

It makes sense about your 0% close rate if you conversation skills are poor.

Let me try and reframe your thinking a bit.

It's not your job to entertain girls. It's their job to entertain you. Your job is to activate the part of a girl's brain that says, "I want you between my legs". Girls will naturally try to keep a conversation going if you can open it and keep it interesting. They will also lead you all the way to the bedroom if you keep their mind on track.

Memorize some good openers. Not just a single line, but something that will give a bit of dialogue. Then just make up stupid and crazy answers to everything the girl asks. Not immature or rude answers, but could be true, could be false answers. As much as possible try to inject suggestive humor. Mentioning kissing, touching, kinky hints, like being tied up, wax, whips.

Being fun and interesting is mostly about bringing the fun and interesting part out of others.

Fix your confidence issue first your game is nothing if you don't have confidence in all situations

Hey man,

Try some CBT therapy for hard to shift unhelpful beliefs.

Conversation: Not that important, honestly. Girls respond to EMOTION and ATTRACTION.

I am not great at convo, but am witty and a champ at creating sexual tension. That's where it's at

So, try watching this:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nTomKxvEVz0

Then reading this:

http://www.authenticpua.com/dating-arti ... l-tension/

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Such as? what beliefs do you think I have that unhelpful becasue honestly I can't see them? I tend to think of myself and lacking skills more than confidence to apply them.

Raven

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You said it yourself:

"I defiantly have some self confidence and self esteem issues but I don’t think I am the worst in the world"

If you don't think you are amazing and that women would be completely crazy not to spend time with you, and truly believe that, then you need to change your beliefs.

I don't even think about whether a girl will like me or not. Of course she will.

90% of self improvement is just hitting the streets and the other half is staying positive.

That's 140% effort you need to put in.

Stay on top of it. Don't let life get you down. Find a good coach and use your credit card to pay them. It's worth it.

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This is the approch I am taking I keep trying to talk to people as well and think I am getting there I just need to learn to be a bit for assertive about what I want.

Thanks

Raven

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OK dude, I suggest you read up on some material and go out! Specifically read up on The Attraction Code by Vin DiCarlo and the 60 Years of Challenge books. As you're reading those go out and meet some girls.

Remember to only focus on what YOU CAN CONTROL, not anything else. What can you control? What you want, your actions and words. State your intent. Know what you want and be congruent to that all the way through. Never apologize for any of it. You're not so good with words? No matter, most of it is body language and vibe anyway. You could literally be talking about the weather and yet still have sexual attraction behind the words. All you have to do is not apologize for any of it. Be unapologetic.

So onto the approach: This is something COMPLETELY within your control. Of course you might get Approach Anxiety, but that's because your focusing on the outcome, on the reaction of the girl. Instead focus on what you can control, which is walking up and stating your intent - "Hey, this is gonna be really random but I saw you from over there and thought you were really cute, and I just had to come and say hi." Bam. Done. If she gives you a nasty response, or a response you hadn't expected, no matter. You did what you had to do and that's all that matters. Keep ploughing through if possible because that you can also control.

If she gives you a good response you're golden, at least for now. You have to initiate the escalation. Which once again is also in your control. With escalation I mean both physical and the vibe. Verbal as well. Physical escalation can be found under the Vin DiCarlo Escalation Ladder, the basics are going from incidental touching to overt touching, starting with shoulders, hands, etc. Building up to longer touches where you hold for a few seconds, then let go. Then move to the back and legs and hips. Then escalate to a kiss. Also consider playful touching, such as thumb wars, which can be childish fun, but also generate sexual attraction.

Your eyes are also a tool for building sexual tension - eye-fuck her - meaning look at her and imagine fucking her. Don't apologize for it.

Remember to only focus what you can control.

Conversation - as said before, conversation doesn't really matter. Therefore SAY WHATEVER THE FUCK YOU WANT. Really do. Remember what you want out of this. You want to meet her. State it. Something about her caught your eye - got nice legs? Mention it. Her style? Talk about it. She looks creative or businesslike, or maybe artsy and gothlike. Say it. She looks like a rocker girl. Tell her. Then ask her what she does. Where she's headed right now (for daygame). Get to know her man. Who is she? Where's she from? Tell her where you're from. Get her to invest a little. Ask open ended questions such as Why did you move here? Or where would you like to move to in the future? If she studies something ask her if that's what she always wanted to study (hint, most of the time it's no, but sometimes it's a yes). Then tell her to tell you what she really wants to do with her life.

A few key topics:
Her name
Her style
What she's doing right now
Where she lives
Where she would like to live
Travel
Cooking - What's her favorite food? Can she cook? Let's have a cooking competition girl! The loser buys the other a drink...or something like that.
What she studies - what she really wants to do
Creativity
Movies - Is she a movie buff?
Music - Does she like good music?
You want to see her again
Pull out your phone
Tell her to type in number
What's her favorite drink?
Coffee or tea?
I'll give you a text and we'll hang out.
Hug.

So remember to focus on what you can control, which is getting what you want. Know what you want a go for it. Do you want to take her home now? Do you want to take her on a date the next day? Do you want to spend more time with her right now? What you want push for it. Get to no. Be playful and honest and truthful in the moment. That's all you can do, really. Being honest and congruent to what you want and going for that. And there is never a need to apologize (unless you harass the girl, but get close to it! ) Don't take her shit if she gives you any. Just stay congruent, tease her a little bit if she doesn't meet your expectations, and tease her for testing you, too. Have fun here. Lead all the time. You are responsible for anything and everything that happens, you must be to blame, so take the blame, do it.

Good luck.