Hi all,

Ive been chatting to this girl alot recently, but she has a habbit of only texting me in the middle of the night, now she is a HB8 and i would love to get a little closer we only ever talk bout friendly things going on in our lives, i avoid anything emotional i dont mind being a friend but being a shoulder to cry on isnt happening not my thing lol....

Its always very friendly the odd kiss on the end, smile faces sometimes she tells me off for being cheeky if i dont respond she send me a message something like oh you fallen asleep wuss!! or if im going to bed she says similar things....

She lives just around the corner from mine, and so i said this is pointless us texting a few hundred yards from each other, why dont you come round...she sent back "but its cold at yours and warm by my fire " so i dropped it saying oh u do your cave man thing then lol

am i being used when everyone else has gone to bed as someone to talk to or what ???

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You've answered your own qs I'd say

And yes,its a power thing-girls know what a guy would feel was he texted at night by Hb 8 would'nt they?

Saying so you can't determine her interest levels with what you mentioned ,could be she's just playing with you or maybe the interaction has potential.

Only time will tell

How about you try to set up a meeting in person. First go with one during the day and if she shoots that down and she texts you later on that night then offer to go during the night. From there you should have an idea of what you are to her. There is no point in talking to this girl if she wont meet you.

umm...a hot girl is texting you in the middle of the night? and this is a problem???

if youre the least bit creative/flirty with your texts you should be able to turn the conversations x-rated very easily. escalate. ask her if shes in bed and what shes wearing, etc. go from there.

A girl may be using you to buttress her own ego (validation), but if it leads to a nght of hot sex, does it really matter to you?

There are two times a day when women are at their most sexual. Early in the morning and late at night. Keep this in mind.

Stop worrying so much of what she may be thinking and start focusing on the only thing you can control " what you want". Do you want to fuck this girl? If yes, then start gaming her, who gives a shit if she's using you for attention, use the time to get into her pants. If you don't know where she stands as far as interest, it's quite simple to find out. Simply state your interest, flirt with her, talk sexual, if she response well, then keep escalating till you have her pants off.

You'd never hear a fisherman complain about the fish being around the boat, or wondering why they were around the boat. They'd just be happy trying to hook them.

As far as the text, you may of seen as her brushing you away by mentioning her warm fire place and your cold place, I only seen it as an invite to hers. Next time she says something like that you should reply as follows " that sounds nice I love fireplaces, I'll be there in 20 mins, you want me to bring anything?"

Women would much rather be sexual at home then somewhere else, always keep that in mind.

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Seduce their mind and the rest will follow.

hi bit of an update on this girl, we had a nice days we ended up in our underwear in bed no kissing just lots of touching and cuddling and rubbing, massaging etc both ways for the record... and she stops it and just wants to cuddle up so ive been working on breaking that LMR...we texted late at night again, now last time i invited her over she said no her places was warm by the open fire, so i made a joke bout her being a cave man and moved on....

from the advise i got here i was told next time make a light hearted comment and invite yourself over there kindly of course, so last night we are talking again, she asked me to look at something on her facebook i said im watching a movie, she said u got a phone use it! so i responded like so P.S. second thread is about a tattoo on her leg she wants lol...

Me: lmao yea and u have legs shut up and use them come chat over here x and yea theres a pretty cool twist on the character i like it

her: im all tucked up in bed and aint moving :p im getting it done on my upper left thigh to balance out the ink on my body lol x

me: thats is only fair im not in bed yet so ill pop over in bout half hour want me to bring anything? and good idead from your tree tattoo i assume u mean x

her: i didnt mean that lol and yeah the tree kind looks too much on its own on one side x
(should i have backed off here or what???)
me: yea absolutely, and to late now movies (that i was watching) has been paused and everthing u dropping the keys down to me or? x

her: Nick i have work tomorrow and everyone is in bed, your not coming in x (this sounded like a pretty blunt put down to me, but within the same minate i kid you not i hadnt finished reading the message she then says )
her: if your free tomorrow im more than happy to see you then but you cant now x

me: im doing a little driving tomorrow see a few friends, the back seat is all yours if you mind your head , and what colours you getting the tattoo same as pic or different? x

her: ill tage along as long as they dont mind, and yeah but possibly a little more vibrant or brighter so it matches the tree more x

me: u not working tomorrow? x (was trying to change subject and not her off guard it was advised to try every now and then )

her: thats thursday x

me: (now trying to make it sound like its her idea and i dont mind i put ) fair enough, um yea y not im doing nothing after i see them so yea come with x

her: Awesomes x

She then left convo saying "my film has finished now so im off to sleep, ill cya tomorrow, night x"

was this a good development or did she suggest another meeting time just to shut me up :/ cause if thats the case shouldnt i flake on her ????

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Passed Mysterys 5 for 5 infield mPUA challenge, now looking into other games e.g. day, txt, online etc...
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You got her naked and now she wants to hang out again. I'd say you're doing fine. Just initiate kino when hanging out with her next time and the rest should follow. Your friends are a good way to show social proof.

amazingly and pure luck it is actually a fellow PUA or mine, who im taking to see a girl he has been working on lmao, but he is a good wingman and will know how to play it in the car which is amazingly well timed tbh, ill keep it posted and
she wasnt naked still in underwear but i kept moving them here and there to make it "easier" to massage and she didnt stop me so next step will just be removing them completely,

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Never take a chance, in missing a chance....
Passed Mysterys 5 for 5 infield mPUA challenge, now looking into other games e.g. day, txt, online etc...
P.I.M.P.
Personality, Initiate, Maturity, Passion...