This is actually a question I have for the PUAs.

During rapport, I often find the girl trying to get me to jump in her hoops, and games. What is the right way to approach these situations?

If a girl asks me to take her coat to my car while she stays in the bar? What do I say? So far, I have always offered resistance anytime a girl asks for a favor like that, but as they plead and beg, and I slowly roll my eyes playfully, and give in.

Another...HB asks to hold her purse while she goes to the bathroom? What to do? In a way she is hooking you because she won't leave w/o her purse, but you are being tooled as a purseboy?

Thoughts on hoops & when the HBs ask for favors.

I say go along with it she is trying to make sure you are hers and she is trying to see if you have value, by being a gentleman. just show some reluctance.

I understand your dilemma, all too often us suckers fall for hoops like that because we don't want to run the risk of losing the target by not jumping through her hoop. Like Mystery says though: avoid jumping through the hoop. Instead take her hoop away from her. In case of you holding her purse while going to the bathroom, you can say something like: "only if you french-kiss me"
Sometimes saying nothing works best. Just ignore her request and order a beer or something. Remember: Hoops are testing devices for a woman. She is just testing how much of her BS you will take....!

Smoke

Being asked to hold a bag/Purse is 1 of the most common things that people stumble on. Be very careful when doing this as it sends a message to every1 in th vaccinity that you are hers and she controls you. When she asks the question tell her that you have spent far too much time talking to her and as a result you now have to leave (to pick up some1 or to meet up with friends) then turn around and walk away. Do not look back and do not apologise for having to leave, (You are simply stating that you already have more important things to do than talk to her). If done properly she will back track and try and regain you attention before you leave or try to come with you.
If she does neither forget her and move on you may have lost 1 possible woman but youd idnot lose your control of the situation. You decided to leave and when to end the interaction not her. The chances are if she doesent try to follow you or stop you, as soon as you had held her bag she would have lost interest just as quickly.

Hope this helps

Regards
Stag

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Watch the MM DVD, it contains the best way to handle girls trying to get you to jump thru hoops: Making them jump thru YOUR hoop first, then jujmping thru theres. One thing though, if she is already leaving with you and she asks you to hold her coat..you already won and its not a big deal to jump thru THAT hoop..but if your out and she asks you to hold/watch her purse all you gotta say is "sorry it doesnt go with my outft." with a straight face and turn your back to her...

I like to think that in a situation like that, as long as I know I'm being tested, I can deal with a small hoop once in a while.

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Keep in mind the person with the more powerful frame controls the set. So if you negotiate even a little bit, you are negotiating your power...

But I cant blame you cuz thats just part of our evolutionary instinct, but you have to "supress those feelings and pay them no attention. Do what everybody else wasnt/isnt doing. The pickup artist must be the exception to the rule"

- Style The Game

Don't do it. She's testing you, and the answer to every test is to not do what every other guy would do. Hey, do I look like a personal butler? Would you like me to warn everyone in the bathroom you're coming in advance, Princess [girl's name here]?

From then on, you can call her Your Majesty and bow when she gets a bit pushy, and generally she'll lay off asking for favours.

It works even better if you refuse every time in a way that'll make them laugh. They try to make you give in, but you counter their test and make yourself seem more attractive. Neg them about needing someone to carry their heavy purse, and you'll steal the position of tester from them. And, though it's easy to do, if a guy can do that it'll blow her mind.

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wow, people here seem unexperienced

obviously dont make a scene about it.. i wouldnt use "what am i, your butler?" or stuff like that, though it could work if it fits your game

dont just leave! WTF?!

giving her a small hoop to jump through first is great!
so is showing playful resistance

with the coat, i wouldnt go out to the car alone, why not just lean it on a chair, or get her to come with you out to breath some air?

with the purse, i would take it and lean it on a chair next to me, or even do it, its not a quite reasonable thing to ask for

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