'Looks can compensate for lack of game. Game can compensate for lack of looks."

In life, there are three systems where you can pick up girls: tight closed system, loose closed system and open system.

You are a small fish in a large pond. It is high school, summer camp, etc where everyone is just truly beginning their sexual voyages or it is a small town in the middle of nowhere. You know each other, who they are, what they are about and their past history. This place is a tight closed system in that the people you may potentially have sexual relations with know you very well and you know them very well.

You are a small fish in a large lake. It is college, everyone is more comfortable with their sexual urges or it is a bigger town in the middle of nowhere. Some have gone overboard and became sluts while others are still southern bells saving their v-cards until marriage. Most are in the middle, having sex frequently with multiple partners over the course of a semester. After a night out at the bars, at a party, at a club or just a friends house, college students crave sex. At college it is a loose closed system in that people you may potentially have sexual relations with know your reputation and your social group’s reputations and vice versa.

You are a small fish in the open ocean. It is post-grad life in the big city. Everyone works, everyone goes to the bars, clubs and apartment parties. They like sex, but work and stress and friends getting married get in the way. Adults crave sex as much as college students but they don’t have to get as nearly as drunk to do so without a guilty conscious. Post-grad life is an open system where you don’t know your potential partners and they don’t know you. You could be an astronaut or a clown and it wouldn’t make a difference because people can only judge you by what they see immediately in front of them and not prior assumptions and opinions caused by intimate knowledge of someone’s dating history or their reputation.

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College is one part of your life where everyone you can meet in at that same college. This is called a ‘closed system’ in that people you see during classes, at clubs, at the dining hall, are the same people you will see at parties and bars.

A closed system has many advantages and disadvantages. Since everyone runs into each other and has, at a minimum, some knowledge of who you are, your reputation and who your friends are, are very important for college game.

It is given that females are attracted to men who are ‘alpha’ because these Alpha Men have ‘social capital’ and will attract more girls.

Reputation and your friends are a part of your social capital. Your friends’ own reputations in combination with yours and each other, make a collective reputation for your group. If you think about it in terms of stocks on the market, if your reputation is poor, your value will drop and if your group reputation are not well-liked, nerds, dweebs, etc… you get the point.

In this way, college game is heavily influenced by how people perceive you and who you associate with. First off, the people you associate with are your social circle. There are two circles: an inner and an outer.

The inner circle is your inner circle of friends who you interact with regularly or live with. These friends normally have the same ideologies and goals as you, as well as same preferences for fun activities. Do these friends stay in the library on weekends or do they host parties? Play starcraft or sleep with women? You get the idea. Surround yourself with people who you are similar to, or people with qualities you strive to attain.

The outer circle is the group of acquaintances who you are friendly with and can strike up a conversation with. These are the people you see at class, at the gym, or at the same parties frequently. When your inner circle is struggling, these are the people you branch out to in order to satisfy your goals. These are the guys you might drink with at the parties and the girls you might ‘accidently’ hook up with. These people could be in your major, your dorm, your club sport, etc.

A note about these outer circle girls. These girls are often in the inner circle of a girl in your inner circle. What they think of you can often change how your close friend acts towards you. In college, there is a dichotomy between guys and girls and the rules about ‘bros before hoes’ and vice versa are actually true. These are the girls who your friend will also set you up with if you ask and she wants to help you/her friend out. Therefore, try not to screw around too much with these girls because they will often fuck you or ruin your close friendships/relationships eventually. At parties, hook up with whoever you want but be aware that danger lurks at every vagina.

In social circles, no matter what level of cool or how popular you are, you can still get pussy. You can be a not fun/interesting member of a ‘cool’ social group and still get girls, but who are often your friends’ scraps. You are the wingman to your friends and your sexual choices are secondary. While if you are the alpha guy of your ‘not as cool’ social group, you will draw the most attractive girl around and your sexual preferences are primary. It is logical that neither is the most desirable. In the first example you get ‘not as hot’ girls because your friends took the hotter one while in the second example you took the ‘hottest’ girl from a selection of ‘not as hot’ girls. Albeit both scenarios are beneficial for getting a blowjob/sex, your social circle will determine what type of girls are interested in you. In this way, your reputation is arguably the most important part of college game because based on how people perceive you, you will be either the alpha male of your group, or one of the wingmen.

how do you become alpha? the answer is in many other thread/topics

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Random Assortment of College Game Facts - college social life tips
- Meet girls in your classes, great opportunity to be friendly and hit on them without being sexual too fast. Makes you seem like a normal person before you escalate by asking them for their number, run into them at the bar, invite them to a party, etc
- on the same note, in college people expect to hook up but not with weirdos or randos. Dont awkwardly approach people in the library alone or alone elsewhere unless the opportunity is ripe, like you are standing next to her in line to buy coffee, textbooks, etc, and on the bus or a community center.
- similarly, dont go out to bars by yourself. it makes you look like a loser with no friends and is creepy when approaching. atleast go with a wingman because that is the socially acceptable thing to do. Even if your bro isnt the greatest, I'd rather look normal than having to overcome any mental objections the girl or group of girls may have by being approached by a guy by himself with no friends. dont be a creep
- If you college is heavy on frat life, join a frat. it is a bulletproof way to create a social circle and hook up with girls because sororities want to impress the frats so that they can continue to party with them and get free alcohol... so they hook up with guys just to create a good (sometimes bad hahaha) reputation so they can continue to get free shit and have fun. If you arent in a frat, find the girls who arent in sororities and become friends with them. these girls party and have sex too even without going to frats.
- the girls in sororities may be hotter, so if you arent in a frat, become very good friends with some frat bros so that you can go to some of their parties and hook up with those girls. sometimes parties are closed (mixers) so you will only go to their open stuff, but atleast you will get an invite to those open events in the first place.
- If your school has strong greek life and you cant join one you want, join the popular business or professional frat on campus who often share many members from a variety of those other greek organizations. At my school there is a business one that only recruits hot girls. it is very worthwhile imo
- even if your school is frat-centric or not, becoming a bartender or friends with party promoters/bouncers/bartenders/etc is a very good idea as you instantly have social capital and a social circle to reference during a night out at a bar/club. this is the best option if you cant join a frat on your campus, as you build your social circle with the people who go out, who could be either in frat or not, so that you always have a cool crew to roll with or meet up with.
- have logistics planned out beforehand. know how you will get home with a girl, have everything ready. taxi or bus? subway or walking? it is awkward when you need to figure out whose place to go to. determine if you are going to hers or yours immediately, but typically volunteer yours bc she doesnt want to look like a slut to her friends/roommates. dont have your room messy or your bed not done. have condoms. the simple stuff is important.
- with getting a girl home, have a tool to attract her back to your place if she isnt already hoppin on your dick (ie-heavy makeout sesh and 'lets get out of here' works perfectly) examples include, i have some special alochol i brought back from _____________ lets go take some shots, or let me show you my new guitar, or let me show you my ________________(DICK)..
- dont be THAT guy who gets too drunk and throws up. college is all about drinking and having drunk sex. dont get too drunk that you puke or get sloppy but enough where it is socially acceptable. also, take shots with your girls, gets them drunk and having a good time
- most of all, girls want to have fun in college. if you are having fun and having a good time with your friends, invite girls in your proximity to join your fun. bring them into your reality and get them to have fun and in a good mood. easiest way to seduce a girl is to get her drunk while playing beer games. tease her for her ineptitude at the beer game (assuming your better then she is) and kino a bunch.
- ALSO girls love DANCE PARTIES. at a pregame or party or afterhours, get a dancefloor going no matter what time, no matter what location, girls LOVE dance parties. it gets their panties wet and you get to show off your dance moves and grind up on their big booties. (she had a big booty, so i called her big booty!)


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Some decent stuff. I don't know what it's like in the US, but certainly in the UK a lot of the universities aren't solely campus unis. They integrate with wider society and a lot of the students go to 'local' clubs in the town rather than just uni nights. Also, when the unis have 21000 or so people it's not always so restricted to the social circles you discuss. Yes the social circles will still be there, but with that many people it's relatively easy to branch out to randomers who are still at your university but you would simply never cross paths with - I met a girl recently who was at uni in the same year group as me, lived in two accommodation halls away and then lived two streets down when we moved out of uni accommodation, but I didn't know her and we didn't seem to know any of the same people at all.

Best college guide i have ever seen! Should be sticky... One advantage of college is money don't matter much or at all, everybody on the same playing field... And Status could be replace with popularity. When i went to college i hated frats, but they are the best way to get women in social college circles. What i did is i game the college girls outside of the club(parties and clubs), since i hate social circle for me to much drama. The drinking on the frats for me was a major turn off...

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any idea on how the game changes for the transfer student?

I have hit a HEAVY DRY SPELL and I am at a division 1a school in the US (over 25k undergrads).

Have about 2 more semesters left here, this is my first semester here.

Have not heard of or been to any of the frat parties. I do go to bars alone because most of my friends are the studious kind (not nerds) that usually just do things at their house on weekends, they aren't big on the sex life.



As I said, I cannot join a fraternity and don't know how to make friends with the frat kids.

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@SKILLS - appreciate it man, thanks. And I love drinking, i could be classified as an alcoholic... or just a normal college student lol. But Im also in a frat so i drink at my parties anyways. the frat definitely helps get the girls to the parties and provides me status but it also doesnt get you laid. that requires actual work still haha
@Paramount transfer students have a large transfer student body where many transfers know each other and create transfer friends and social circles. Try to meet more transfers and party with them. Even though your friends are your friends and you probably truly enjoy their company and friendship but given your varied priorities It seems like your friends arent the type that you need if you want to have sex. In this way, you probably need to make new friends, specifically guy friends, who share the same values as you. you can keep the old friends and not lose them but by branching out you will find it easier to get girls because you arent by yourself.

Just a note, some schools the girls are not as hot as the general population so you may have to lower your standards or get drunk more than you'd normally like to accept that you are hooking up with hb6 or 7 rather than hb9 or 10. food for thought

If you only have 3 semesters total as a transfer that means that you are an older student who has missed the boat for a number of social opportunities. However, as you are at a D1 school, there are tons of females and other social opportunities to take advantage of. I would not recommend trying to meet and make friends with the frat guys at this point as you will look like a weird kid. Rather try to meet all the 20k+ students not in greek life and what they do for socializing. Clubs and organizations are great ways to meet girls in a nonsexual way and since all male-female interactions have sexual tension to begin with if you understand how to use good eye contact and kino then you can escalate when you have a chance in the future. Also at these places you can find and make new friends that are similar to you in goals and attitudes. In addition, even though we would love to fuck all the girls, it is important to become friends with girls so they can invite you to their parties, you can go out at night with them, you can get set up and hook up with their roommates or other friends.

If you are on a cold streak then i recommend doing and tryin other pua techniques or theories. Personally I have copied and pasted all the material i personally like and use into a word document on my computer and I read it about every few weeks to stay refreshed. I also have a different document I compiled with techniques i have previously tried but gave up due to certain reasons so I can go back and read my notes as to figure out why it didnt work and how i can improve myself so that i wont feel i would need to try that method again. Besides those documents i made personally, I have many different ebooks I got through various means.. but i read when i get bored. reading many different materials gives you a new perspective on pua and can lead you to find some new tactic you may never have thought to implement previously.

In college since it is about popularity and social capital, you need to figure out how you can create yourself to be a higher value person in comparison to the average joe at your college. Often times I fuck around with where Im from and my nationality. Im from eastern european descent but dont look like it and often people tell me i look irish or part hispanic. I play around with where im from to create interest in my heritage, (hispanic is always hot to girls bc when you can dance good, because i can do some salsa dancing, they only think about crazy latino sex SHOUT OUT TO SKILLS!! while other nationalities imply other positive traits and thoughts in the girls minds) and make it almost into a game where they have to guess where im from. very good imo to build comfort and rapport while building sexual tension at the same time because it is a normal conversation topic that you can turn sexual at the drop of a hat. As a transfer student, you could create the story that you are the hot foreigner from country XXX and that explains why you arent in a frat and transfered to the college at such a late time in your college career. BE that HOT foreigner that the girls want bc that creates social capital in and of itself, being foreign that is. IF you are not comfortable doing this, lying to girls, then you need to create social capital some other way. ways to do this are by joining a sports team, a club sports team (I am on my schools club rugby team.... i dont go to practice anymore but still have my uniform and other clothing so i can still say i am on the team and no one would dispute it) or become a public figure on campus somehow... among other options.

But as 7000 mentioned, at a uni with so many people, it should not be hard to branch out and find people that have similar interests as you as well as random girls to fuck that would be interested in you and not the meatheaded stupid drunk frat guys. Hope i helped answer your issues.

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From the way you have put it, I am pretty much screwed for the rest of my college career.

I mean fraternity kids get all the sex from what I read and it is too late for me to associate with them. As for my nationality, I have strong Middle Eastern and Indian like features and according to what I read on forums most girls are not too excited about that so that is really risky.

My issue becomes logistics. Most of the upperclassmen do not go downtown as often and I meet A LOT of cliquish freshman and sophomores. It seems like most upperclassmen branch out which gets really depressing for me. Like college is based on social circle game, I am having a hard time developing a social circle that loves to party and get drunk and wasted and have sex.

A guy like me is used to quick one night stands from cold approaches so it is almost insane to see that I am struggling in a college town.

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I'm going to ignore the bits about race Paramount, as I said I would from now on in another thread. However, look what I've put in bold there. "From what I read" "according to what I read on forums". I would say that probably around 60% of this forum (if not more) is absolute rubbish - and this is a good forum! Most of the stuff you read on the internet in this sort of situation is written by people with an agenda, people who have had one bad experience and replicate it, people who have no actual idea about what they're talking of, or just simply lunatics with crazy extreme views on something or other which they try to pass off as a norm.

Stop reading things and getting worried about it, and go out into the real world. If, for instance, you were wondering whether a particular wine was any good, would you ask someone who had read about the wine in a book, or someone who had actually tried the wine? You need to stop getting worked up about things you read or things you hear, and actually go off what you see for yourself.

Right, before this thread gets hijacked again, good stuff J slay, nice first post and solid advice in your second. Keep it coming man!