Can you be a PUA but hate the club environment, or is that just a contradiction, as clubs are the most convenient social environments to meet people in.

I have found that clubs are too loud, people in the U.K get hostile and prepared to fight anyone, which adds a lot of genuine pressure for approach anxiety. On top of this, unless you can guarantee a f close on that night, its an environment where you are most likely going find girls flaking after, and lack of commitment, as the come down of that high energy environment is too strong.

Of course everyone has their own niche, wondering if anyone felt the same

You can game anywhere you want. PUA is a persona, a mindset. It changes the way you perceive yourself and interact with other people. You shouldn't have to depend on your location to game women.

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Club game is different than bar game or street game.. When you are at a club, you need to dance. It would just look weird standing there checking out girls. The more you are having fun with your group, the more girls notice you and it becomes easier to approach them. It has to do a lot with pre-selection too. If you are with a bunch of hot chicks, this adds to your value when you are in a club. But it's not a must anyway.

Girls you meet there most likely flake on you, because when they are out to party they are in a different mindset than the following day when they are at work taking bullshit from their boss. It's easier to take girls back same night if you are at a club rather than meeting her on the street too.

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I agree with what a few of the others guys have said, in the UK at least it seems that the only way to succeed in a club is to put your balls on the line basically, a bit of banter, attempt to lead the girl, physically escalate
and give her a non-sexual reason to leave with you, then sex obviously, thats why I find it odd that many guys in the seduction community put a lot of time and effort number closing girls, as the previous guy said these girls are more than likely in party mode, they're not viewing men as potential relationship material its all about living in the moment.

The only exception to this rule which does not effect me because I have high standards are the girls who are of below average looks, I don't like categorizing women this way but I mean the girls who are HB 4s or less. The overweight fat girls that guys occasionally go for. These girls would be great full for a date probably and would consider dating a guy from a club but that's definately not why I got into this, I'm focused entirely on 18-21 year old girls HB7's and above, slim, attractive and desireable.

In order to get with the fitter girls, best way to make friends with women, and have them be your mini social circle, and then you will get introduced or at least be in the company of hot girls that trust you and are willing to give you a chance, outside of that there's foreign girls and day game that works well.

I agree with Pickwick; you can game anywhere.

But it always strike me as odd that a PUA wouldn't want to game in nightclubs. To me, that is like ground zero for pickup.

Why would you not want to pick up in the club?

You mentioned aggressive dudes in the UK, but that's still an excuse. You don't have to physically be in the night club to pull. You can run what I call "Scavenger Game", by pulling chicks who are exiting the club and opened to being laid.

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Man thank you for the advice but seriously, this weekend i saw some man get put into a coma outside the bar we were at, and the weekend before that i nearly got opened up by a group of 4 asian (pakistani) men for dancing with one of "their women".
Yes it is an excuse but a pretty valid one to dent your confidence. Student nights i feel very confident with, and parties exceptionally confident, but normal nights in clubs just have a vibe that sucks my energy.

Its true though i should reach a certain level of PUA where i can approach in any setting without any anxiety, that is the highest art of social dynamics

Clubs are ok when you're younger but when you actually grow up you'll get sick of them.

It's playing by someone else's rules.

(I speak from 19 years of experience in clubs and around 150-200 lays from clubs)

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I'm not a fan of the mainstream clubs. I still occasionally go to indie clubs where they play more my type of music and generally the vibe is lots better - less dickheads who just want a fight, and less "banter lad" types (which now I've gotten older I just find myself looking at the "banter lad" types - of which I arguably was one at uni - and thinking they just look like nobhead kids!)

So I guess you can try out different types of club if you're into different music - outside of the mainstream dance type clubs the SPAM is usually better.

I guess the thing with nightclubs as well is that there is alcohol flowing. I'm not saying go after the drunk girl who's collapsing on the floor, but I suppose a lot of people see slightly tipsy girls as easier targets than sober ones in the street. Which is fair enough, but for the reasons people have mentioned above this usually ends up with flaking if you don't get a same night lay.

But if you don't like the club game/bars/night out type vibe, then no worry at all. Just try talking to girls everywhere - in the shops, in town during the day, on the train whatever.