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I wrote this guide as a way to get as much constructive criticism as possible. This is composed of everything useful that I use in my game and would like to improve. As you read, please look out for places that I could do better with/without and what to add to this. If you don't want to post a response to this, then please take the time to at least vote so I can get a better idea of the guide.


Opening

A lot of guys seem to put an emphasis on how imperative it is to have an awesome opener, however, it is the LEAST important part. :D

Simply put, it doesn't matter what you say as long as you approach. Open with whatever you want as long it is something that is congruent to you. If you happen to be a very shy lad, it is probably for the best that you don't perform the "Claw" on someone, instead, just put your hand out for them to shake, smile, and say "Hello".

Of course, there are two types of openers, Direct and Indirect.

Direct openers convey your interest quickly, an example would be, "You were too cute to just pass up. Hi, I'm Michael." This is direct because you are conveying interest at the very beginning of the meet, in fact, the whole reason you introduced yourself was because she captured your interest. 8)


Indirect openers are the more "Under the radar" techniques used in canned routines. "Hey guys, who lies more, men or women," is a opener with the approach of hiding your interest in the girl you like and puts the focus on the question at hand.

Of course, every woman knows what you're actually there for, them.

False time constraints stress that won't be in set for very long. Why would be useful? Chances are that if the girl you are trying to pick up is a genuine Hb 7-10, she gets approached by a lot of guys frequently, so when you open she might think to herself, "Great, another guy, how long is he going to be here for?" :cry:

This frame of mind isn't useful at all, if you simply use a FTC, she will hear you out because you already told her that you're about to leave at any given moment, she might as well listen.

Example: "Hey, I have to go somewhere really quick, but *Your opener*." The "really quick part of the sentence is your false time constraint.

Once you reach a hook point, and the actual conversation has actually started, dropping a FTC gives the target the impression that you're leaving again. By always seeming to be on the verge of leaving, she will experience the fear of loss.

There is also a way to deal with "Flakes" by using a FTC, but that's for a later lesson.

Logistics are the details of the given situation, be it transportation, friends that your target is with, belief systems, how far you and your target are from a good sex location and so forth. I placed this in the opening section when really, it belongs somewhere before.

Having good logistics are key to getting lays and should be planned ahead of time before you go out.

Why is that? Well for one, If I decide to go to San Antonio, I live in Houston, that's a two hour+ trip. If I go to a venue and hook up with an amazing Asian 10,(I have a thing for Asians) I can't bring her to my place because it's two hours away!

The logistics are so bad that I have better odds of getting laid in the back of a taxi or a public bathroom because the Logistics are better there.

Now, usually hot babes tend to go out with friends, you very seldom find a true 10 by herself, so the logistics are, how many friends is she with, are there any guys in set, is she the designated driver of the group, etc.

It is important to note that when you open a set where the Hb isn't by herself, you don't have to open the entire group because in an environment in which loud music is being blasted, drinks are being bought and passed around, dancing and movement is rampant, they'll likely be more occupied with other matters than your approach.

Of course, not every environment gives you a one-on-one logistic for free, if you're doing cold approach at a mall, coffee shop, store, etc, then the group will take notice you.

Don't freak out, I have a solution. When you open your desired woman and you feel everyone else's gaze falling upon you, simply turn, look at them, introduce yourself with a handshake and return to the woman.

If the target is in a two-set, this is where things get a little complicated. The logistics in this scenario are falling to your disadvantage because the target is with a friend, relative, boyfriend or whatever.

*If the target is with a female friend, it's necessary to have a wing occupy her while you deal with the target. If no wing is available, you can do a few things, the first, you can merge the two-set with another group and make it into a larger group so instead of dealing with an original two-set, you now have a three+ set to work with. The 2nd, more realistic way of dealing with a two with no wing is to work them enough and sooner or later, you'll get to isolate because the friend will see what is going on eventually.

*If the target is with a male friend, you can have a female wing occupy the male while you game the target. If solo, go up to the girl, get close and whisper in her ear, "Tell him that I'm your gay friend." It may seem counter intuitive to do this, but this builds a bond as you two are sharing a secret between each other and disarms the potential AMOG. When she turns to him and says, "This is my gay friend," just simply turn to the guy and say, "Hey bro, I just need three minutes, three minutes, ok?" What this does is knock the guy back as he starts to process what is going on. "Gay friend, three minutes, three minutes, ok," He just can't say no given the circumstance. Three minutes should be enough time to number close. <I learned this from RSD.

*If the two-set involves a relative, whether male or female, pretend as if they are ugly friends of the target. Again, having a wing never hurts, but if you go out alone just work the set until the relative gets the picture and lets you isolate. See first example.

*If the two-set involves a boyfriend, look at the male friend example. The only difference is that your frame should be stronger. In the end, even though the logistics were not in your favor, you can still pull a successful close. Which brings me to the next topic.

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Frames are important in pick up because they communicate the mindset and general aura given off by the PUA.

You can have a cool guy frame, Cocky funny frame, etc.

It really doesn't matter which frame you end up casting, but you should remember that the frame is something that comes from you.

If you are a very shy, timid and lonely guy with bad inner game, you aren't going to pull off the Alpha male/Dominate frame.

This isn't the end, so don't worry. If you are the shy lad, you can always seek a innocently, intelligent and deep frame. In time, as you rid yourself of negative quirks and gain confidence, you can add more to your frame.

From shyness to confidence, timid to bold, and lonely to congenial, your frame should be congruent to you.

Tyler Durden shared a great story where he tried to game a hb 9 with Julian at a club at around midnight. Tyler was out of state and incongruent with his frame, he was trying to maintain the awesome, go-getter, Pua frame that he holds, but on the inside he was tired, wanted to go home to sleep, and so he wasn't congruent. When he went up to the hb, he was blown out of set and was told that he was weird.

Tyler went back to where Julian had been watching from far away. Julian wasn't about to have Tyler get blown out like that again, so he had him go back to the set. Tyler gave it another shot, tried to display higher energy than the party when in reality he was feeling groggy. He was blown out again and shrugged his way back to Julian.

Julian stomped his foot down, pointed at the set that had rejected him twice already and said, "Again!" This time, Tyler went in without the frame and went in the way he felt. Like shit.

When he entered the set, he apologized for creeping them out and explained that he just felt terrible. Soon as he finished, the hb 9 apologized as well for rejecting him and offered to buy him a drink. He gave a melancholic "Sure," and ended up closing after they talked about the misunderstanding.

Moral of the story? Don't try to use a frame if you aren't going to align it with your emotional state correctly.

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Frame Resonance is when you make the perceptions of both the girl and your realities resonate with congruence.

You want her to feel that her perspective is identical to yours. There are four ways of doing this.

The first, *Frame Bridging, is a tactic to a logistical problem that needs to be solved.

If for example, the girl likes you and you like her, but she has to drive her friends home because she is the designated driver.

The problem? She has to take her friends home. The solution? You can pay $40 for a cab.

One of the important things to notice about a logistical issue is that some PUAs might confuse it with a "Shit-test" in which they are instructed to "Punish" the negative behavior.

Imagine that your Girlfriend goes to college and she has an exam on Friday and it is currently Wednesday. You ask your girlfriend if she could hang out with you tonight and she says no because she has "To study for a final," and the following day, Thursday, the same thing happens. Some AFCs might think of it as a congruence test and punish her behavior by "Ignoring her and making her crawl back to him."

The issue is that it wasn't a shit-test at all, but a logistical issue. Learn to look for them.

The second, *Frame Amplification, is when you amp up your frame around hers.

Best example, You're talking to a chick about sex and she's like, "I don't believe in sex without a bond."

That's a shit-test. How do you deal with it? You don't punish it, but amplify your frame to become bigger than hers.

"Of course! Who has sex without a bond or connection? Sex wouldn't be that great otherwise, but if you did have that bond, what..*Back to sexual topic*.

Shit-test dealt with, but why did it arise? Because you had brought up sex to early in the conversation and her frame didn't resonate with yours. The frames were just a little off or not matching yet. Now that it has been corrected you can continue.

The third, *Frame Extension is when you add on to something to your current frame.

Example, you're into doing scuba diving, base jumping and the like, the girl on the other hand is like, "Omg Yeah, you couldn't get me to do that, I just go clubbing."

The solution is to add on to what you had said to make her frame catch up with yours, "Don't get it wrong, I just mean that I like being active and you do too because you go clubbing and that's very active and fun. It's great." :D

You extended to she could feel the resonance. That creates the rapport between the both of you.

Lastly, *Frame Transformation is when there is no possible way for your frame to EVER match hers currently, but you can change you're frame to something that it COULD resonate with.

If a woman knows about your "Rep" as a PUA and sees how alpha you are, how many women love you, and just your man-whore self, and this causes her to reject you because she wants to find someone she can settle down with, all that's needed is for you to reach out to her and say something like, "Yes, I understand that I'm wanted by women, that I have sex every night and that I'm amazingly alpha, but I wish I could find someone in the future, like you, that could see me for who I really am and not this player that gets laid all the time."

All that is needed is for you to "Agree" with her so-to-speak and look into the "Potential" future.

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Qualification is a great tactic to filter out the women you don't really want to meet, talk to or deal with.

You can also use it to set up a potential one-night-lay. How? Just make her qualify herself. Lets pretend the girl you met is some stuck up "Model." First, if you ask what she does for work, and she says "Model," don't believe her and qualify her.

"A model? You're not one of those 'Instagram' and 'Myspace' models are you?"
"Oh no no no no!, I'm signed already, but I start in a few months."

She just qualified herself to you and now, you have her where you want her. Don't stop there, keep the qualification going!

"You know what I like about you? You're fun and friendly, I can tell you're fun and out going and that's a real cool quality that I like. You're not just fun though, you got that fun, flirty kinda vibe."

I escalated there at the end.

"One minute you're cool, and the next you flirty and kinda sexy, that's a really cool look, I like that. In fact, I try to hang out only with people that know how to, you seem like one of the few that can. I give you a 10 out of 10 for that.*High five*"

Qualify and reinforce it with the high five and the 10/10 thing.

"You also seem to have that cute sexy kind of vibe. Not just cute, but cute sexy. Cute is like my little pony or care bear, but you're innocent and then you go 'Lets have sex :twisted: ' I like that. Are you spontaneous? I thought so. Spontaneous and fun? I can tell, but you know what I like better? People who are spontaneous, fun and adventurous. People who are just spontaneous and fun do the same shit every day, 'Lets go out and drink again!', but adventurous aren't like that, they do something new. Is that you? Spontaneous, adventurous and fun? Oh that's really cool. You know what's funny is that I met a girl like you a few weeks ago, and she was just like you, we ended up making out and having sex."

Did you catch that?

"..You know what's funny is that I met a girl like you a few weeks ago, and she was just like you, we ended up making out and having sex."

That says, I make out and have sex with people just like you to her sub-consciousness. That's for later. Lets continue.

"But thing about her was that she was pussy whipped by her friends" "Pussy whipped? what do you mean?"
"Like they told her what to do and she would do it, she was a sheep and didn't control her own life. Those people aren't cool. You're not like that are you?"

If she says no, later on when you're taking her home, if her friends come out of no-where, she'll be like, "I don't listen to anybody, etc."

Also, since you put it in her head that she is "Spontaneous, fun, and adventurous," you won't deal with much ASD anymore. That's enough of this, now back to the filtering stuff.

Remember when I also said you could use it to filter out the people you don't want to meet, the kind you do, and what kind you'll enjoy?

Write down what your ideal women is like and write down personality traits. Have a list at hand for this and try to get things that you really want.

Examples

*Healthy lifestyle
*Asian
*Remembers traditions
*Cooking skills
*Enjoys cooking
*Loves taking care of me
*Makes tea everyday
*Kind
*Loyal
*Trusting
*Knows martial arts
*Cultured
*Great taste in music
*Into Art
*Would be a awesome wife
*Would be a awesome mother
*Just as intelligent as or smarter than me
*No big flaw in character
*Alpha female

This is my list, but realistically, a woman with this many positive characteristics probably doesn't exist, but still, my list is there as a way to filter out women whom I wouldn't want to be with.

In short, this is meant as a way for me to find the women that I am more likely to enjoy. You should build a list to do the same.

A perk of having this list is the readily prepped conversation topics.

During conversation, when you are 'screening' for qualities, don't ask questions, instead, rephrase them into statements.

"You seem like someone that other women go to for help or advice. Am I right?" <-Statement and question.
In contrast, "Are you a leader?" <- Question

Her response, "Yes, I just try to look after them you know? A lot of women get taken advantage of."
You now have some 'links' for a new topic of your choosing. "Look after", "Just try", and "Women get taken advantage of."

Two of the links will lead the conversation down somewhere negative. Can you guess which one is the good link?

"Look after," is the positive link that has been given, you can lead with a follow up question or statement.
"When you say that you look after people, that's really special, not many people do that. I like that."

At this point in the dialogue, you are vibbing with her and rapport is being build. All from the qualification.

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Observation

Women put a lot of effort into their looks and if you can spot something that regularly goes unnoticed, you'll stand out.

"I like that charm bracelet, it compliments your wrist nicely. Where did you get it?" "Oh this? I got it for my birthday from a friend. Why do you ask?" "For your birthday? Did you like the party?" "It was alright. Nothing special." "Really? I would go all out on my birthday, what's your idea of the perfect party?" "Oh, I would.. etc."

Using observation, you can spot things that necessarily go unnoticed and you are now being rewarded with rapport for doing do. Also, learn to listen. I know that most people who read the girl's first response just read over the word birthday and didn't give it a second thought. Since we DID pay attention, we caught the word birthday and we're able to set up an additional conversation, simply by paying attention.


Kino-Escalation

Touching a woman helps you get sexual quickly from the get-go. Take it in baby steps though, there is such a thing called low and high risk Kino believe it or not.

Low risk is like shaking hands, high-fiving and whatnot. High risk is like coming from behind, putting your arms around her, and rubbing your cock on her ass, grabbing her tits, etc.

The thing about Kino is that you can work your way up and get to the, "Rubbing your cock on her ass," part by taking it one touch at a time.

Since you already have started the Kino by shaking hands at the beginning, you are well on your way to sex.
Take it one easy and simple step at a time by not jumping ahead of yourself and going from handshake to ass-grabbing. Go one step at a time while Escalating. Start with low risk and gradually work your way up to higher risk escalations.

Forms of Kino
*Arm In Arm
*Hands touching
*Hugging from front
*Hugging from behind
*Kissing cheek
*Kissing on the lips
*Kissing the neck
*Make out
*Groping
*Sex

Mystery talks about compliance testing in his book, in which you're supposed to get your target to do things for you, like getting her to hold your drink, watch your stuff while your away, fetch you a drink while she's on her way to the bar, "scratch your back, kiss you or spread her legs."

If she passes the test, reward her with some higher Kino, if she failed the test, go down to a easier test for her to pass.

The idea is that people are willing to do something for you as long as they have done something similar for you before.

Compliance Tests

*You're holding her hand and you give a squeeze. Watch if she squeezes back.
*You Put her hand on your knee and she leaves it there once you let go.
*Walk around holding hands
*Walk around arm in arm
*You sit her on your lap and she allows it
*She is standing up while you sit down and, while holding her hand, pull her in so she is standing between your legs while you're actively gaming her.

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False Time Constraints II

Ok, so you had built rapport, established a congruent frame, Had some Kino, and now you're ready to take the girl home. So how do you do it?

False time constraint. That's how.

How will that work? Simple, women will go home with you if you rationalize and justify why she should. You do this since the girl ACTUALLY wants to go with you, but doesn't want to seem like a slut, so you have to take the responsibility off of her.

Saying something like, "I need to get something from my house really quick, it'll just be a minute. Just a minute, around the corner. Lets go." "Are you sure? What if we take too long?" "Just a minute girl, just a minute."

She will comply to this eventually, but it works even better if you throw in some, "It'll be fine, trust me."

Another strategy is to just say "After party." It's one of the easiest ways to take the responsibility off of the girl. It doesn't matter if there is a after party or not, what matters is that you took the stress off of the girl and now can go without a fight. So even if you go to like a deserted apartment with no-one else in it, they won't say, "Where's the party," simply because they don't want to seem like sluts, not even to you.

Just remember that the only reason that they act like that is because of the conditioning of our society. They don't want to risk looking like a slut and end up losing their status, friends, etc. So you have to give them those little things to make them rationalize going home with you.

Another aspect is making them feel comfortable around you. You shouldn't attempt anything until you have built enough rapport for her to know what kind of person you are. Then you are ready.


Extra Game Stuff


Phone/Text Game

I don't do much for this. If I set up a meet up and I have to call to make sure we're still on, I won't call and ask like, "So are you still up for today?" I like to call and say, "I'm busy at work right now, I'll be 5 mins late. Later." I like this because I if I get flaked, I won't sound like a idiot.

Asking to Dance

I don't dance a lot because I'm not good at it, so I keep it to a minimum, but on the off chance that I do want to, I walk up to a girl, stick my hand out and say, "Lets dance, I have two legs:P."

I throw in the "I got legs" part because normally, if you don't justify something, you'll likely get rejected. I read a article that said if you go up to a woman who is sitting down and randomly ask for a chair, not because your friend needs one, but just because, they'll say no. If however, you were to say, "Can I have the chair? I my leg hurts," They'll bite, you could even say, "Can I have the chair, I have a nose." You'll still get it. Why?
Because all that was needed was a small justification.

So, when I ask a girl for a dance, you'll catch me saying, "Lets dance, I got legs/nose/etc."




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Conclusion

So that is basically my know-how behind Pick-up so far. It's not the best thing out there, but I like it and it works, give it shot. Having read this guide, you are now armed with some of the best tools in any essential pick up arsenal. I feel privileged to share it with you.

Of course, it's one thing to simply read the guide and take it in as some food for though, but an entirely different matter all together to put into practice, due to the unpredictability of social interactions. I realized that I have left out some other topics, I will update this guide every now and then as I promise to write a better guide to getting you results, one post at a time.

Until next time, Ehgony. ('Agony' with a Canadian 'Eh' for an 'A', incase you were wondering.)

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