Hey,
Im fairly new to the game and quite inexperienced. I want to close this girl this HB8 which I've known since August but never been that close with till last week.

It was my friends bday dinner and she sat next to me so we kind of bonded quite well then. Straight afterwards it was his party, and I pretty much spent the whole night with her and I got quite a few IOIs. Firstly there was around 100 people there which she knew most very well and a lot better than me, including some of her best friends and we still spent nearly the whole night together.

Not only did I spend most of the night with her, but everytime we finished smoking, she would grab my hand and lead me back to the party. When I wasnt dancing she would either grab my hands and pick me up, or come sit next to me and lean on me. I did not try anything though.
Apparently I was looking really good that night, as a few girls asked my friend who I was because I was really good looking, which was a surprise to me.

She asked for my number the night before, and she texted me in the morning asking if i was going to the gym because she wanted to come. We didnt go then but went a few days after.

Then the next day, we went out, she invited me and my friend for drinks at hers before we went out, and she was there with her bestfriend who is an HB9. Anyway when we got to the club, she was quite touchy feely with everyone, but I still got a few IOIs, as she was dancing with me a lot and looking at me. At one point we went for a cigarette, and this guy asked if I was her boyfriend and she replied yes, i negged her saying she wishes.

She got a bit drunk, and i looked after her by giving her water, and we lay down for a bit together on these sofas.

Im wondering whether I should go for it ? the only problem with failing is that i am going on holiday with her in the summer and also she has hooked up with one of my close friends a few times before.

fredhhh, my friend, welcome to AFC land. First things first. Work on your confidence. In one way you seem so clueless that the girl is going to close you.

Do you want to close her (and why not her the HB9) or do you want her as a girlfriend? You seem to be heading into bf/gf territory, by the way and she seems to be completely leading the interaction.

yeh, im definately an AFC, ive kind of been overshadowed, by my friend who is a natural, and has slept with lots of HB8s and HB9s.

Yeh I definately want to close her, and if possible go into gf/bf territory. And the reason not the HB9 is because first of all I dont think I can, and I think my friend would even struggle, secondly, i actually really like the HB8 as a person surprisingly, which is very rare for me

Does it seem as if I can do it, or have I just been friendzoned. If not what apart from being confident could I do?

HB9s are not out of your reach. But as long as you feel that they are, then they are.

If you want it fast, then hire a PUA coach and learn the dark arts. Otherwise get reading this forum.

Be clear. If you did have some confidence in yourself, would you like this girl as a gf or to close her?

(please stop seeking approval)

no i definitely want her as my gf, just unsure how to go about it.

and in regards to the hb9, she's hot, but i much prefer the hb8 as she has a 10/10 personality.

And yeh, ive been trying to learn for a fair bit, reading the forums, read the game, but it all seems to work so differently when it comes to real life, and each situation is different and thats why im asking about this one.

And in regards to confidence, it is ever increasing, people have been recently talking about how im good looking, and ive been going to the gym for more than a year and my body is really something which girls love to see and touch.

what do you reckon my next move would be, just go in for the k-close?

Who cares what people says? Do you? Do you find yourself good looking? Do you like your body? (I don't want to know the answer, it's just for you to wonder why you need other's validation).

I think you should just start spending a good amount of time with the girl. She seems to like you. Doesn't seem to a need to play games or anything. She likes you, you like her, all good.

The only thing I'd be concerned about is that she seems more mature than you and if you don't get your game up you'll end up handing her your balls and you'll be back in six months asking why she slept with your best friend.

cheers for that, shes gone away but when she comes back, i'll go in for the kill as i havent closed her yet, and im slightly worried about rejection just because im going to have to spend so much time with her after. I know how fear of rejection is the 1st thing you should get rid of, but its hard in this situation.

Well, man up. Just consider how many things you are not doing because of this fear of rejection. Learning to deal with your fear of rejection will improve your ability to face fear in the rest of your life.

Probably you will fuck it up with her. Oh well.

Here is what you need to do. Find someone to go sarging with ASAP (and if you can't find someone, tough shit, you are on your own). You've got a little window here to work on your game. Get out there every single night. Just hit on everything that moves. Commit to starting 5 interactions every single day. Can be with a girl in a store, someone at the mall, online dating, anything, but 5 a day.

Just be scared shitless. Be so scared your hands are shaking and you have no idea what to say. If you'll do that, I can promise you, when HB8 is back, interacting with her will be cake.

Do this for yourself. Take the challenge. Don't be a pussy.

yeh im going to work on that, but im not gonna fuck up on this one