Hi All,

I'm new to the game. I know this is a big first post but i would appreciate any advise.

Managed to get a few numbers over the weekend. Ive struggled in the past with opening girls and also with texting and transitioning to setting up a date. Ill set the scene for the two girls I've messaged and id really like to know where i have gone right an wrong and perhaps some things to try for next time

Pickup #1
Initial Pickup (background)
Met her at a bar, opened with a simple introduction and pulled her away from her friends on the pretense that i wished to introduce her to my "sexiest" friend. I introduced her to my friend and began selling her to my friend in a playful way while he was a little bit uncommunicative as i put him on the spot . This fortunately pushed her interest back my way and kept flirting with her for a few minutes.

She was telling me that guy earlier had come to her earlier and told her "On my way over to talk to you i thought you were a 9 but now I've started to talk to you i think your a 7 and then he tried to tell me my future". I restrained myself from laughing out loud. This gave me the perfect opportunity to segway into palm reading. I respond with something like, "Oh really i cant believe some one would say something like that, its funny you mentioned fortune telling because i actually palm read". This sparks her interest immediately and she instantly presents me her hand to palm read.

I begin running my little palm reading routine. I tell her "I actually need your left hand, but before we begin, Do you actually know how the lines are formed on your hand?", she first responds with a slight shrug and I prompt to guess, she just shows me a clenched hand. I respond with "Your partially right, the lines on your hand actually formed by the way your hands clenched when your in the womb. So your fate and lines are decided when your born".

The previous statement excites her and she responds with her own little bit of trivia about pregnancy. This surprises me as it a fairly intelligent response, so I asked her, "wait why do you know something like that, what do you do for work, are you a doctor or something?". She responds with that she is a child care worker so i respond with, "Wow so your actually are a sweetie, i suppose id have to upgrade your rank of 7 that guy gave you before and put you at 9". That last statement seemed to create strong emotional response (a massive smile with her eyes opening up staring right into mine). I assume people haven't responded to her Job in a positive way like that before.

I proceed with palm reading and tell her some abstract and broad info about her love life and got her to confirm if i was correct. They usually agree so but i dont think it matters to much if im right or wrong. I tell her "look i really need to head, off soon with my mates, but first i should get your number for my friend that i introduced you to". She tells me she doesnt want him to have her number, and said she would only give it to me to call her. I tell her"...OOOOkay the numbers for me then". I get the number and proceed to walk to my friend. I make a show of it in say to my make it look like im handing over the number to my fiend. She responds by getting a little bit upset then lets out a laugh when i turn with a cheeky smile and let her know i was joking. I give her kiss on the cheek and let her know i needed to be one my way.

I felt as a whole the pickup went well and had built some attraction in general.

Messaging
I msg her the next morning, a Monday.
Me :"Felt it would be appropriate to msg a perfect 9 at 9 . Lucky you got upgrade from a 7."
This was me continuing our conversation from the other night

Her: "Haha Thank you so bummed I missed outt on the 10@ 10 :)

Me: Soz can't give out 10s they have to be arnt! Would you like to know how?

Her: "Hahaha umm ok how does one earn a 10?!"

Me: "Three things
1. Bake cookies
2. Deliver cookies
3. I will then Rate the cookies , and if they are good enuf theres a slight chance for someone to get a 10!"

Her: "Hahaha welllllll I am a great cook but cookies arnt my thing so odds are against me ;?"

Me: "Try thinking out of the box and tilt those odds in ur favor. Eg. you could try something like deliverying them nude "
Thoses message where over 2 day period, with the last message i tried to escalate things, but she didnt respond to that last message. I left things for a day to see how things go. After that i sent her another message to get move topic.

Me: "Just saw Santa Claus this morning driving a black van delivering flowers. I always wondered wha did around Easter time".
That brings us to today, so my plan was to let things sit until i get a response from her. I'm unclear whether i escalated to soon or if i should just be patient because she may be intimidated by the esculation msg.

My Analysis

Pickup #2
Initial Pickup (background)
This pickup was a bit quicker and didn't build too much attraction, just built some ground around common interests and some lil jokes and dancing. Asked for her number, she asked for me to give her my number. I got my phone out before hers and put it in her hand, and said "beat you" and got her to put it in my phone. She pressed for me to message her my name so she would know whose number it was. I jokingly messaged her my name suffixed with the words "super stud". Gave her kiss on the cheek and moved on. She messaged back "lol".

Reflecting on this, she possibly pressed for having me messaging her my name, because she has a partner and needed not have random numbers coming up on her phone.

Messaging
I thought i would just try and go in straight with a call, a couple days after getting the number. Went to her msg bank, i left a message saying "He [Her Name], i have a important question to ask you call me back tommorrow after work".
I got a message from her after that saying: "Sorry! Wish you all the best".
This leads me to believe she is in a relationship. But i decided to prod to see what would come of it.

My Reply: "If I read that message in reverse its says "best the all you wish. Sorry!". Which i could intepret as anything. E.g. please keep msging i like where this is going. ;P"
Not sure if that comes accross weird and creepy or funny and difusing, her next msg tends to suggest the first.

Her: "Stop calling!"
This confused me because i had only called one which was the first interaction where she messaged her reply "sorry". I also thought that maybe this is an okay result, as i have spurred a emotion from her albeit being anger . My intial thought is that she was called by some blocked number and assumed it was me, i felt i try with a follow msg and try to get across that i understand social conventions.

My Reply:"My last msg may have lead u to an incorrect conclusion. I was just testing the waters and being playful. I havent called out today"
Should just leave this and get rid of the number, I'm getting indications that she is perhaps trouble. Alternatively have i missed mark with this one completely?

Thanks everyone sorry for the long first post.

LOLOLOLOLOLOL WHERE IS THE QUESTION IN THIS?!

I think the "STOP CALLING!" Sums it up pretty well.

Your game (especially your text game is WEAK!)

She didn't respond to your obnoxious text of "try delivering them nude"
Because she isn't the slightest bit attracted to you. You can tell by her complete
Lack of enthusiasm and probably resentment due to the fact that you have the
Grammar of an autistic child. If you're over 18? (Which I'm assuming) - don't text
Like you're a 14 year old girl. Use grammar. You killed attraction, this "attempt" or
Lack thereof is DEAD! She probably doesn't have a boyfriend she just isn't in to you,
At all. I will not appologize for this reality check. Clear your head and be Alpha.


Cheers,

Confidence.

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I don't f*ck fatties

I acknowledge my text game is weak. That why I'm posting to get some useful feedback.

@Alpha Confidence i appreciate the time spent replying but insulting me isn't going to help me much.

I didn't think the grammar was that big of problem, i felt that i was using social accepted abbreviations for texting. Things seemed fine withe first girl until my second last message where I pushed the boundaries a lil bit.

Also we are talking about two different girls, not sure if your reply may be confusing the two.

You mentioned be an Alpha, i would find it constructive if you would let me know what you would of done as an Alpha in both situations to build attraction?

thanks.

" Okay.. 2nd one is dead. First one should have gone like this...


How's my favourite (name) doing? To be honest with you.. I think out of all the (name) working as a (occupation) you're probably the number 1.

Cocky and funny

Follow up text: Anyways you seem like a really down I earth girl and I would like to get to know you better, why don't you bake some cookies and come over? Double chocolate chip lol

Assume the sale c&f

"Can't make it - have some things blah blah"


- No worries at all, I think ill head over to Tim hortons, they always make me cookies & I never have to listen to all their girl drama! I just have to try to interpret their broken English lol :p


Funny, fun, playful, tease.


Cheers.

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I don't f*ck fatties

Hi AlphaConfidence,

Thanks for advice, will use for next time. I see the difference between what i have messaged and what you've suggested.

I'm going to try break this down to see if I'm understanding this correctly so i can put this in place for next time.

In short, my messages need to elicit more confidence/cockiness. Also need to invite her out by the 3 or 4th message. Mine were nice, nice, nice, then too far and I didnt even invite her out.

In the case of your texts is the cockiness establish by?
1. referring to her in the possessive "hows my [name] doing?"
2. Making demands of her and asking her to provide reasons why not. "why dont you come over and make me cookies?"

Balance out the cockiness with some light humor.

Lastly Do you think there's anyway to pull the first one back? I was thinking i could apologize, but this would come across as weak and begging. Cut my losses?

cheers.

Open with a fun situation opener (Hey! Saw (something random) it reminded me of you!) thought I would say hi"

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I don't f*ck fatties

There is no such thing as "text game", 90% of it is irrelevant.

It's all about the initial impression.

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http://www.authenticpua.com/primal-seduction/