Hi guys,

I'm new to this site, so this will be first thread posted on this forum. I would consider myself to be fairly new to the art of pickup. I am currently in my freshman year in high school and my social skills interacting with girls have improved tremendously since my days of anxiety back in middle school. But I started watching these pick up artists on youtube to really get to the nuts and bolts of how this works, and how to capitialize on my approaches. All of these videos have helped create a new found confidence in approaching girls. Even though many of my family, friends, and various strangers have said that I'm at the lever of an eight or a nine in terms of attractiveness and that a lot girls would be all over me, that still didn't exactly help cure my anxiety, which ultimately prevented me from entering a serious relationship years ago. However its safe to say that now I have improved my confidence in go up to random girls and get their numbers. With some more research and practice, I should become great at this soon. But today I wanted to share with you guys something thats been going on between this one particular girl and myself.

This must have started at least around early February. I started to get to know this girl during our history class we had together and we hit it off pretty well, considering that she was cute and friendly. Then one day at lunch, I went to the table she sat at to talk with one of her friends. Then one of my friends who was sitting there, who had actually known her for quite a long time, started telling me that she had a crush on me. I messaged him on facebook that same night to find out if it was true, and when I asked him how he found out, he said she told him. So the next day, I went to her table to talk to her, and I was surprised that she was acting rather snarky. She was telling me to go away, albeit in a joking way I think, and because I had no idea why she started acting like this, it threw my game off.

For the past few weeks I have been going to her after school, attempting to have a conversation with her. However, she still pretends I'm just an annoyance to her, not taking my attempts seriously. This made me think, "Hey, maybe she's just too shy to talk to me in front of her friends." But then later on her friends were tying to tell me that she actually doesn't like me. Another thing thats not helping the situation is the fact that a lot of her guy friends take her phone and send me text messages under her name. It makes me wonder if they're all just messing with me and find this whole ordeal of me and her entertaining. She's still smiling and having fun while I'm pursuing her, so I can't tell if she's just playing hard to get either.

The whole thing now makes me wonder if I should just abandon this lead and go talk to other girls instead of just focusing on one girl, or continue pursuing her.

Thoughts?


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Hey, I'm fairly new to pua as well, and I'm a sophomore in High school. But I think her friends might have like made fun of her for liking you (not that there's anything wrong with you <I don't know you, but you seem like a nice kid.>) So now she's just trying to act like she doesn't like you. So she starts saying things like "go away" and I think you said: she says stuff like that like shes joking around.

So I figure she doesn't actually want you to go away, its just light resistance.

I'm still pretty new to this stuff, so I don't really know what to suggest other than: keep trying, and that light resistance isn't bad. Maybe just talk to her friends a bit more, get them to know you're cool.

By the way there might be another thing playing into this whole situation. Whats her social status, and whats yours? If shes cooler than you its less likely she's going to go for you, but if you're cooler than her and her friends, they might shut you out (thinking 'this kids just here to make fun of us/mess with us.' in that case you just got to show them you're actually nice/friendly.)

She mainly hangs around her small group of friends in our grade. I'm more social. I make friends easy, so I hang out with a lot of upper class men. Maybe they are somewhat intimidated by that.

I bet she would find that attractive, that you're cool with older kids, but I can see how she would be intimidated though. So just be friendlier with her and her friends.

Anyway, it's been awhile since you posted on this topic anything new happened with that girl? I'm kinda curious haha, hope it went well.

What mohammed said in the first post.

Approach her friends. This will not only make you look cooler to her friends (and her) It will also create some sort of negging (You were into her first, but now you care about her friends). REMEMBER: Do not become the gay friend, always keep on sexually scalating and giving yourself value with the Higher value techinques (use stories, as you can focus on the whole group)


Once you are comfortable with the group, neg her hard. Use the common negs, like "How do you girls hang out with her" REMEMBER: It is key she is with the group when you say it, otherwise, it will be like backstabbing. Do that for a couple of times, and she will flip out.

First you were all over her, then you became the AMOG of the group, and then you make her friends laugh at her. BE CAREFULL, negs are used to push-pulls situation, dont push her away too much. Most importante, take care of the moment when you ask her out, try to use a situacion where you are higher than her.

Pedro how old are you? I assume 15? My best piece of advice is read more, post less. And by read more I don't mean PUA materials or this forum. Another piece of advice I can give is don't believe anyone saying a girl has a crush on you. People lie. When the guy said it, say "oh I don't know about that" and go on with what you are doing. Change the subject. Don't get on facebook and ask about it.

I can't really imagine how a teenage girl's mind works b/c teens are immature, but I will suggest that the word she had a crush on you, got back to her and she was embarrassed about it and her way to deal with the embarrassment is to be rude to you.

I would ignore her for a while.

I agree with part of what you're saying but Pedro's a freshman in highschool, so is the girl. Ignoring her isn't going to help anything. Here is what's going to happen if he ignores her: (I know because a really similar thing happened to me last year, when I was a freshman. I mean maybe I don't have loads of PUA experience, but I pretty much get how highschool works.) He'll ignore her - > she'll ask why (or maybe she won't , thinking 'it's something stupid, and he'l probably start talking to me again') -> No one continues the friendship because of pride (she's definitely not going to do it considering Pedro would be the one to stop talking to her first.) Or he will try to talk to her and she'll shut him out - > she goes and calls him a jerk to all her friends - > Pedro's known for being a jerk, and now he can't game her or a bunch of other girls who know.

Don't ignore her Pedro! I'm telling you from experience bro.

What's the alternative to ignoring her, Mohammed?

I'm not entirely sure, but I guess you could just try to get in with her and her friends, and show them you're a cool dude. But that might come across as trying to hard, as it's been awhile since this post was created. Plus you probably been trying to get with her this whole time, and if she's not warming up to you by now it might be time for you to move on to the next girl.