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I keep getting LMR whenever I bring girls back to my place. This has happened at least 10 times already! What am I doing wrong?
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I got LMR with this one girl! What do I do?
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 Post subject: young girls
PostPosted: Fri Mar 22, 2013 4:25 am 
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I keep running into really young girls between the ages of 18 and 21 and the give strong ioi's and even try qualify themselves to me and once i show any interests they go cold. Some I get numbers but I'm trying to figure out if they don't realise they are acting interested and get scared off or what? Some will still come up to me at work and seek me out after I show interest but they temper it down. What's going on? They just looking for attention? Just a side note I'm a really good looking guy and know how to BF. So i wonder if their doubting their selves or something.


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 Post subject: Re: young girls
PostPosted: Fri Mar 22, 2013 4:49 am 
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they are teasing you trying to get you hot and bothered, if they are with other females there showing off in front of the other girls. it's a practice session in showing their sexuality

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 Post subject: Re: young girls
PostPosted: Fri Mar 22, 2013 5:02 am 
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But its mostly coworkers and non of them around other females.


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 Post subject: Re: young girls
PostPosted: Fri Mar 22, 2013 9:04 pm 
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I think it's because you show too much interest before they've earned it.

It's subtle, could be body language. If you're constantly facing them - that's not good. U need to give off a mixed body language to keep them uncertain and wondering.

And about qualifying - that's extremely important. It's ok to show greater than average interest after they've qualified, and also because of it. If they see you give your interest for free they'll think it's not so valuable. A great way to qualify is a compliance test. Get her to do something, doesn't matter what. After that it's ok to reward her with some interest.


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 Post subject: Re: young girls
PostPosted: Sat Mar 23, 2013 12:46 am 
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I think it's because you show too much interest before they've earned it.

It's subtle, could be body language. If you're constantly facing them - that's not good. U need to give off a mixed body language to keep them uncertain and wondering.

And about qualifying - that's extremely important. It's ok to show greater than average interest after they've qualified, and also because of it. If they see you give your interest for free they'll think it's not so valuable. A great way to qualify is a. compliance test. Get her to do something, doesn't matter what. After that it's ok to reward her with some interest.
I deffinitly don't show too much interest but Ithink your right about qualifing. Plus Idont think Iknow how to build comfort. Thanks


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 Post subject: Re: young girls
PostPosted: Sat Mar 23, 2013 11:34 am 
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Plus Idont think Iknow how to build comfort. Thanks
The best thing to do is just spend more time together. The more she is with you the more comfortable she'll be. And it's also the most simple way of viewing it. Things are naturally going to get well.


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 Post subject: Re: young girls
PostPosted: Sat Mar 23, 2013 6:10 pm 
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I keep running into really young girls between the ages of 18 and 21 and the give strong ioi's and even try qualify themselves to me and once i show any interests they go cold. Some I get numbers but I'm trying to figure out if they don't realise they are acting interested and get scared off or what? Some will still come up to me at work and seek me out after I show interest but they temper it down. What's going on? They just looking for attention? Just a side note I'm a really good looking guy and know how to BF. So i wonder if their doubting their selves or something.
That's normal.

According to the observations of Freund, Blanchard, Scher and Hucher, researchers in sexual behavior, the courtship process has four phases: "(1) looking for and appraising potential sexual partners; (2) pretactile interaction with those partners, such as by smiling at and talking to them; (3) tactile interaction with them, such as by embracing or petting; (4) and then sexual intercourse.” from http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Courtship_disorder

Women initiate phases 1 to 3 while men are expected to initiate phase 4. Just team work with her as she goes through phases 1 to 3 and then do your gender role to f-close in phase 4.

How?

Try direct game.

1. When those girls come near you, don't smile but talk with your eyes. Look at the pupils of the girl's eyes (don't look at her breasts, nipples, ass, navel or the pussy area) and then imagine fucking her pussy in hardcore mode as you maintain the longest gaze with her eyes that you can muster. If she looks down and looks back up again, you're good. If you still don't know how to do the eye fuck routine, read how and why, here: how-to-make-a-woman-fall-in-love-with-y ... 89-15.html Learn the eye fuck routine and learn it good.

2. Bait for her kino. Try this line from Grand Master: "Are you hands clean?" - "Yeah" - "Ok, could you hold my dick for me while I'm peeing? The doctor said I can't carry heavy things. It's bad for my heart." This is field tested and 80% to 90% of girls in your age range (my age range too) will play punch your arm as long as you had a devil-may-care, laid back delivery. Learn how to say it slow and clear enough with as much confidence as you can.

When she play punches you, close the distance at 2 feet or less and then ping her kino by touching her hair. Say something like (as intimately as you can but not too loud that others may hear), "Yup, you take good care of your hair. It would be awesome to stroke your hair while I'm banging your pussy real fast." (Field tested. Works best when whispered in her ear.) When she resists your kino, try to bait her for another kino with a funny line; nothing too cocky or you'll blow her sexual arousal that you've carefully built.

When she kinos you again, ping back her kino. Don't mirror her kino, escalate to someplace erotic like her ear. You can whisper something in her ear while you 'accidentally' and 'momentarily' brush your lips against her ear lobe.

Warp Mindless has a good rule of thumb when escalating your kino. 50% resistance as baseline gives you the signal to escalate fast or slow. A resistance lower than 50% means you're escalating too slow in your kino. A resistance higher than 50% means you're escalating too fast. Calibrate and adjust.

3. Give her an emotional roller coaster ride. Let her experience a variety of emotions like anger, frustration, laughter, annoyance, stress and so on. Emotional highs and lows increase the "desire for union" (phase 4 to be exact) of the girls in your age range. Here's the science to back it up: http://www2.hawaii.edu/~elaineh/71.pdf

That's just 3 steps. While indirect game is designed to build up your social value, direct game is designed to make girls horny or sexually aroused. The potential for penis in the vagina is a better seduction tool than demonstrating high value and then trapping her into compliance tests.

Girls are seducing you starting at phase 1 to 3. Help her and escalate at once to phase 4. Fuck her first and the great compliance will follow. Just make sure you're a badass at sex.

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 Post subject: Re: young girls
PostPosted: Sat Mar 23, 2013 10:29 pm 
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I forgot. The field tested routine that works really well in isolating the girl is, "Let's go." Keep conversation to the minimum (much better if you stay silent to build up the tension some more) as you lead her to the f-place. The f-place could be anywhere.

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 Post subject: Re: young girls
PostPosted: Sun Mar 24, 2013 1:20 am 
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Hey, good stuff Hellhound :P


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 Post subject: Re: young girls
PostPosted: Sun Mar 24, 2013 5:57 am 
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That's great if I could spend more time with them but they go cold after Iget their number or show any interest in hanging out. So Iwill go cold on them and ignore them for a little bit and they will start pinging with me again. Usually toned down a bit though. So I will run a jelousy plot line and they will still react like their interested but then try and get them to hang out and they go cold again. Wtf!


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 Post subject: Re: young girls
PostPosted: Sun Mar 24, 2013 5:59 am 
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Also when your in comfort does the ioi's go colder or mellow out?


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 Post subject: Re: young girls
PostPosted: Sun Mar 24, 2013 6:22 am 
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That's great if I could spend more time with them but they go cold after Iget their number or show any interest in hanging out. So Iwill go cold on them and ignore them for a little bit and they will start pinging with me again. Usually toned down a bit though. So I will run a jelousy plot line and they will still react like their interested but then try and get them to hang out and they go cold again. Wtf!
Jesus. It will probably take you several months to more than a year to unlearn all of these not so efficient PUA habits that you currently have.

Let's summarize the more efficient approach...

Eye Fuck. --> Escalate Kino. Do not mirror. Escalate. --> Amp up sexual innuendo and emotional rollercoaster ride. --> F-close.


You can bang her right then and there at the back of the bookshelves in the library if your escalation is good.

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 Post subject: found my answer!
PostPosted: Thu Jul 18, 2013 4:04 am 
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http://www.girlschase.com/content/attra ... ation-date
http://www.girlschase.com/content/secre ... -rejection :mrgreen:


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 Post subject: Re: young girls
PostPosted: Sun Nov 17, 2013 7:14 pm 
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so I've realized that I've been missing their attraction window and not moving in fast enough then they go into auto-rejection. So I need to start qualifying more, bieng direct and showing interest and moving in faster. But how do you lock things down to hang out when their acting really interested but dodge out on hanging out? I have realized that im hitting their attraction switches in person but they start doubting when their away and get insecure and talk themselves out of it.


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 Post subject: Re: young girls
PostPosted: Sun Dec 01, 2013 8:44 pm 
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come on guys! iv'e been hitting this road block for three years now.. I need to get past this. But how do you lock things down to hang out when their acting really interested but dodge out on hanging out?


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