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PostPosted: Thu Mar 21, 2013 5:15 pm 
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So I have a problem I have been able to number closes with girls. I have basically a 100% success rate out side of bars. The problem is I only try if I know I or feel some what comfortable. I also go indirect and ask for directions or things of that nature. Then talk and blah blah and number close. All this time and I still can't go up to complete random chick and go direct. I know I need to fail but still scared for some odd reasons. Sometimes I would open indirect and never follow up if the chick seems busy or in a hurry. But when I ask for a number I always get it. THe only problem is I rarely ever ask for numbers or go that far. Sometimes I would leave and go places alone and be like yea today im just not gonna care and approach. But never end up doing it and sometimes just walk around for hours on end. Does anyone here have that problem? IDK y after successfully number closing I still suck at this and get nervous anyless I feel the situation is perfect to approach. Please any tips or advice would be so helpful


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PostPosted: Thu Mar 21, 2013 7:14 pm 
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You are thinking about the outcome instead of the interaction. Remember that your goal in pickup is to seduce the woman, then have sex with her. Going indirect and never indicating your sexual intent then asking for a number is plain weird. I actually often deliberately don't ask for a number until I've built up a connection and I know she is attracted to me. If you've seduced her correctly,, she will often offer you her number without you asking. The only exception would be opening a set early in the night then number closing so you can meet later in another club. It seems like your goal is to collect numbers. The goal should be to calmly approach and interact with women and seduce them. Don't use collecting a phone number as an excuse not to physically escalate the first time you meet a girl. Lots of girls give out (often fake) numbers to get rid of weird guys, so why not escalate straight away?

Stop thinking of fake reasons to approach and you will feel a lot less stressed about everything. Think of an unusual compliment or a backhanded compliment to open, instead of indirect (which I find is only really useful for day game)


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